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From: vadims@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: relcom.talk,relcom.politics,relcom.fido.su.general,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: kRYSY SAMI SEBQ NE TRAWQT (bYLO: pREZIDENTA!)
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.090709.1749@vms.huji.ac.il>
Date: 5 Oct 93 09:07:08 GMT
References: <19.20.01.10.01.1993@ohstpy.bitnet> <AAYEMhiaJ5@phm.mepi.msk.su>
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In article <AAYEMhiaJ5@phm.mepi.msk.su>, Vadim A. Moiseyev <vadim@phm.mepi.msk.su> writes:
>
>>   i WOPROSY-TO DONIMA@T MENQ KAKIE-TO GLUPYE.. nAPRIMER:
>>   pO^EMU \TI UGOLOWNIKI W bELOM dOME SIDQT E]E TAM, A NE W LAGERE USILENNOGO
>>   REVIMA KAK POLOVENO IM PODOBNYM W NORMALXNOJ STRANE?
>
> A vy pomnite kak proishodilo nizlozhenie Gamsahurdii ? (eto bybshii prezident
> Gruzii). Osada shla po-moemu 2 nedeli s primenenien tyzhelogo oruzhiya.
> Vitoge ves' prospekt Rustaveli okazalsya razrushennym, a Gamsahurdiya
> sbezhal i ustraivaet grazhdanskuyu voinu v zapadnoi Gruzii. Eti suki
> v Belom dome vooruzheny ne huzhe. Ia tozhe za to, chto vseh, kto
> mashet krasnym flagom nado izolirovat' v kontslageryah. Eto vyrodki kotorym
> mesto za polayrnym krugom. No kak eto sdelat' ? Presidenta podderzhivayut
> seichas ne tak kak ran'she.
>  Shturm Belogo doma neobhodim, no ochevidno - on dolzhen proiti s naimen'shimi
> poteryami, s maksimal'noi bystrotoi i samoe glavnoe - dlya nego dolzhny sozret'
> usloviya.
>
>>   pO^EMU NESKOLXKO SOTEN ODUREW[IH OT BEZNAKAZANNOSTI HOLOPOW BESNU@TSQ
>>   UV KAKU@ NEDEL@ WOKRUG TOGO-VE bELOGO dOMA ? pO^EMU KAKOJ-TO ^E^EN
>>   hAZBULATOW, KOTORYJ ESTX MRAZX I PROSTITUTKA I ZA KOTOROGO NE PROGOLOSOWALO
>>   BY I ODNOGO PROCENTA IZBIRATELEJ MOVET ZASESTX W ZDANII wERHOWNOGO sOWETA
>>   rossii (ZAMETX - rOSSII, A NE ~E^NI) I PLEWATX NA pREZIDENTA rOSSII IZBRANNOGO
>>   BOLX[INSTWOM ROSSIJSKOGO NARODA ?
>
> Ni Hasik, ni Rutskoi kak mne kazhetsya situatsiyu v Belom Dome ne kontroliruyut
> Po-vidimomu, tam zapravlyaet "chelovek s ruzh'iom". No tysyachi krasnozadyh
> vokrug Belogo Doma - eto eschio pol bedy. Milliony krasnozadyh po vsei Rossii
> vot beda tak beda. Kak s nimi spravlyat'sya ? Shirokomashtabnym terrorom ?
> U nas ne takoe sil'noe gosudarstvo.
>
>>    ~to tworitsq, gospoda ????
>
> Ya polagayu, esli v provintsii vsio budet spokoino, to problema Belogo
> Doma reshitsya sama soboi. Esli zhe provinstiya vzbuntuetsya - togda
> zhdite volny emigratsii pohlesche, chem v 1917.
>
> Vadim
>

I ask the fellow - netters, including Jarmo, not to mix up with me this
 guy using the same first name to sign his postings in t.p.s.
The major stimule in my accepting the idea to continue my carreer in the West
was strong unwillingness to participate in killing or incarcerating people of
any color of their buttocks. I opposed it as a human being, as a citizen and as
a Russian Army officer.
Best wishes,
Vadim  (N. Savvate'ev)
Hebrew University of Jerusalem
