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From: tim@ubitrex.mb.ca (Tim Braun)
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Of course design is always more interesting, but these chips
are pretty fast/sophisticated/have many pins.  Mistakes are
costly.

Let's chase the ACER chipset.  I don't trust NEC.  Of course
the TigerShark chips are interesting, too.

On an unrelated note:  Fil-Mag (San Diego, USA) (617)-569-6577 sells
  SMT AUI transformers for ethernet transceivers.  Part 23Z391SM
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From: Andreas Busse <andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de>
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> Hmmm just a ping to the list... (having network problems here).
> 
> Seems like the 3 biggest choices are:
> 	ARC 100/150 motherboards from NEC
> 	ACER chipset 
> 	TIGERSHARK chipset 

I'm not sure yet, but there might be a fourth choice. My friend
at SGI told me that Mips Technology is selling a complete design
for few $$$. I'm waiting for details...

> How do the people who would actually design the motherboard feel about
> buying a design (Arc) over a new design that we could distribute??
>
> Or is this a useless question till we get more info/prices on the ARC 100
> motherboard?

I any case I would prefer to start from a complete design and modify
only those parts not satisfying us (if any).

BTW: Yesterday I got some price estimations:

ACER PICA chipset: us$195 in qtys >= 1000
NEC ARC chipset  : us$200 in qtys >= 10

Today I will call ACER Netherlands for more info. I've got also
a phone number of someone at Toshiba who should know more about
the Toshiba chip set.

I'll keep you informed (sorry, I was extremely busy this week).

Cheers,
Andy

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> ACER PICA chipset: us$195 in qtys >= 1000
> NEC ARC chipset  : us$200 in qtys >= 10
> 
> Today I will call ACER Netherlands for more info. I've got also
> a phone number of someone at Toshiba who should know more about
> the Toshiba chip set.

Hi, a girl who lives in my dorm works at ACER The Netherlands, I'll ask her
if she can get any info. I'm afraid not, what I heard was that they only
assemble things overthere.

Grtx, Ronald

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From: Andreas Busse <andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de>
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> Hi, a girl who lives in my dorm works at ACER The Netherlands, I'll ask her
> if she can get any info. I'm afraid not, what I heard was that they only
> assemble things overthere.
> 
> Grtx, Ronald


Yes, that's a good idea ! (And I've promised too much, I hadn't
enough time to call them).

Please tell her that Mr. Kakavos at ACER Germany said
that I should contact Mr. Gerey Wang (or the like) at
ACER Netherlands. His phone no. is 40 501 234.

Would be good if they could send me informations...

Cheers,
Andy

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