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Subject: Press/New Reduced Prices For Alpha AXP Microprocessors (fwd)
From: Yanni Jew <yanni@db.toronto.edu>
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The last I recall, we were waiting for DEC to
release more info on their 21066/68 systems.
Here's some pricing from a press release that
might be of interest. There's another press
release from DEC about some agressive OEM programs.

Is anyone still hopeful for a "riscy" machine,
or should I just get one of DEC's OEM boards,
if they'll sell them at a reasonable price ?

-yanni

> From biz.digital.announce Tue Jun  7 21:29:02 1994
> 
>                 DIGITAL ANNOUNCES NEW REDUCED PRICES
>                     FOR ALPHA AXP MICROPROCESSORS
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>            Model                          Price (US List)
> 
>            Alpha AXP 21068-66MHz          $   186
>            Alpha AXP 21066-166MHz         $   347
>            Alpha AXP 21064-166MHz         $   404
>            Alpha AXP 21064-200MHz         $   544
>            Alpha AXP 21064A-233MHz        $   788
>            Alpha AXP 21064A-275MHz        $ 1,083
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It would be helpful to have the spec numbers for each chip to go alongside
the price. Do you have that info, or can you tell me where to get it?

Vince 
p.s. My opinion on the matter is to go with DEC, at least for now because of
the following;

1. Dec has an  80x86 simulator for alpha's. I know it runs under OSF/1, but
I don't know about anything else. Anyway, this nifty little trick piece of
software will outrun pentia runinng pentium optimized coe by 40%(Supposedly)

Since it's a simulator, it can run any intel code; dos, windows, os/2 ...

That way you don't lose any apps.

2. If there are Windows apps you HAVE to run, there's Windows NT.

3. I've spent a lot of time dealing with DEC over the last two years, and they
managed to change my opinion about smaller customers getting lousy service from
big computer companies. They are actually pretty good to all their customers.

From yanni%db.toronto.edu@twist.db.toronto.edu Wed Jun 11 20:52:52 1994
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> It would be helpful to have the spec numbers for each chip to go alongside
> the price. Do you have that info, or can you tell me where to get it?

SPEC numbers only really apply to a complete system,
not a cpu chip. However, there was a chart posted
to comp.arch a few months ago with rough SPEC numbers
for "chips". The chart is a bit long, so I can forward
a copy to anyone interested.

Also, since the DEC press releases were posted to
biz.digital.announce, which some people may not
receive, here's how to get the press releases:

	ftp.digital.com in the /pub/Digital/info/pr-news directory.

-yanni
