Subject: Re: Seeking SIRDS & SIRDS software

From: [email-masked] (Tim Pesce)
Date: 20 Jan 93 09:11:46 GMT

[email-masked] (Greg Tapolow) said:
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>Please no flames if the terminology is spelled, incorrectly. I am trying
>to locate information on the generation of random dot 3d pics and if
>possible, MAC software to generate.

A great package for viewing SIRDS on a PC is available on SIMTEL in:
<msdos.graphics> in the file "mindim20.zip".  This should be a good
starting point.  I don't know of any MAC software offhand, but from
what I hear, the creator of the sird has developed an animated sird
viewer on the MAC.

Also, Games Magezine has featured them in the past.  I think the last
issue to do so was last April, but I'm not sure.

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From: [email-masked] (John D. Roads)
Date: 20 Jan 93 20:06:23 GMT

Hello to whomever was looking for SIRDS and its software...
 
At WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU there are three things of interest as far as
SIRDS.  They are as follows:
 
1) /graphics/graphics/mirrors/sugrfx.acs.syr.edu/3d/randot/3drandot.zoo
2) /mirrors/msdos/graphics/mindim20.zip
3) /mirrors/msdos/graphics/perspect.zip
 
Perspect is good for experimenting to see how the colors translate to
depth, but allow limited development (very simple pictures only).
For beginners, this is a nice program to use.
 
MindImg 2.0 is a wonderfully developed shell for ready-made .RLE images
of SIRDS and the package contains many high-quality images.  The shell
allows the user to view images Normal or Inverted (so that we cross-eye
viewers can see the image roughly the same as you wide-eye viewers, and
vice-versa).  It also allows the user to view the images in red-green
format for those unable to see them otherwise.  And lastly, it allows
the user to generate a postscript file of the image to be printed out,
AND with varied resolution of the pixels!
 
Lastly, 3dRandot takes a .GIF (or .PCX, maybe others, too) image and
generates a single image random dot stereogram on the screen.
Unfortunately, it has no save feature, unlike Perspect.  You must use
a screen capture program (I use Grabb384) to save the image.  I can
recommend two programs to generate images for 3dRandot:  Improc41, and
Fractint 17.2.  Both are available at WUARCHIVE in the directory
/mirrors/msdos/graphics/  (Grabb384 is in /mirrors/msdos/screen/)
Improces is a VGA paint program with some very nice features and effects.
And a lot of plasma fields created with Fractint, saved as .GIFs make
very interesting SIRDS.  Hope this long-winded note helps!
 
                                                 John

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From: [email-masked] (Tim Pesce)
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:15:22 GMT

[email-masked] (John D. Roads) said:
>1) A SIRDS animation called Dynamic: Kind of slow to start since it first
>generated about 15-20 screens of SIRDS and then did some screen page
>swapping, but definitely interesting.  I could upload to WUARCHIVE with
>enough prompting from interested parties.

Here's one interested party!  If Dynamic doesn't make it to WUARCHIVE,
is it available elsewhere?