                         Summary of ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
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From: kwang@eos.ncsu.edu (KAI  WANG)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: 20 Mar 1994 02:20:47 GMT

Subject: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
>  1.~{4sB=TZ#5#6DjTl3vCW8q#1#7#,H;:s:\?lSPAKCW8q#1#9#,1HKUA*2n2;~}
>~{AK<8Dj#,N*IuD):s@4R;OBB}OB@4#,V15=OVTZ;9TZSCCW8q#1#9#/#2#1#?=v=vJGRr~}
>~{N*ND8oBp#?;9JGSPIuD)FdK{T-Rr!#~}

~{NROkVwR*JGRrN*ND8o0I#.CW8q#2#1SZ#1#9#6#6Dj#1TBJT7I#,3FN*<_F_R;PM#,5+~}
~{7"U9PM<_F_6~PMTrSZ#7#5Dj?*J<Ih<F#,#7#8DjJW4NJT7I#,#1#0V.>C#.#.#.#.#.~}

>  2.~{CW8q#2#1?I4xKDC6?U?U5<5/#,N*IuD)<_#7V;D\9RA=8vSZDZ2`9R<\#,~}
>~{JG7"6/;zMFA&2;WcN^A&9R;9JG;zRm2DAOG?6H2;9;#?~}

~{FdJ5<_#76~8D=x:s5D3v?ZPM?UVPN@J?#F#7#-#M:M<_#7H}RmOB>yTv<SAKA=8vMb9R~}
~{5c#,7"6/;zMFA&R2SPKyLa8_#,<_#7H}7"6/;zN*NPEg#1#3#,MFA&#4#0#.#2#1G'E#~}
~{<SA&MFA&#6#4#.#7#2G'E##,Wn4sFp7IVXA?#8#1#5#09+=o~}
~{CW8q#2#15DVBC|Hu5c>MJG7"6/;zMFA&2;4s#,Tl3IWwU=0k>6P!:MTX5/A?IY#.>]<r~}
~{JO:=?UDj<x1(5<#:VP92<F;.VP5D3,F_PMRQMj3I3u2=Ih<F<07g64JTQi#,WnPBO{O"~}
~{JGJ9SCK9147"6/;z;r6m9zCW8q#2#95D7"6/;z#,8D;zM7=xFxN*A=2`=xFx#,Tv<SMb~}
~{9R5c#,W6PN;zM7N;VC;;W0=OOH=x5D;p?X@W4o#,Ih<FWn4sFp7IVXA?#1#0#,#8#0#09+=o~}

>  3.~{4sB=R}=x5D!.K914!/7"6/;zKFN4SCSZHN:N7I;z#,DGN*IuD)R*;/<8RZ~}
>~{C9T*R}=x#?~}

~{Am>]<rJO:=?UDj<x1(5<#:<_:dF_T-PM;z>MW0A=L(NPIH#-#9PM7"6/;z#,Jt!.K914!/~}
~{7"6/;z#M#K#2#0#25D9z2zPM#,5%L(<SA&MFA&#9#1#.#2G'E##.5+8|:C5DNPBV7gIH~}
~{7"6/;zR2SPAK#:9z2z;u#,5%L(MFA&#7#1#.#3G'E##,<SA&MFA&#1#3#8#.#3G'E##.~}

>  5.~{4sB=TZ#6#0Dj4zVP>MRQ3I9&5D8c3vA=2`=xFx5DG?#5#,N*IuD)#8#0Dj~}
>~{4z5D<_#8<WHTN*3B>I5DM72?=xFx#?GR<_#8<WR2V;9RA=C6:lMb5<5/SZ;zRmDZ2`9R~}
>~{<\#,3$3$5D;zImIOV;SPR;8v89OB9R<\9R86SMOd!#@`KF5DNw7=7I;zM(3#TZ89OB9R~}
>~{Pm6`6+Nw!#

~{<_#8<WQPVF<F;.J<SZ#1#9#6#4Dj#,#1#9#6#9DjJT7I#,#1#9#7#9Dj2E?*J<Iz2z#,~}
~{R;VV;ySZAyJ.Dj4z3uFZIh<FK<Ok5D2zF7#,D\:C5=DD6yH%#.<_#8<WSZ#1#9#8#7Dj~}
~{M#V9Iz2z#.NROk<_#1#24s8ER2JG2n2;6`5DIh<FK<Ok8c3v@45D0I~}

>  6.~{N*IuD)4sB=TZ#7#0Dj4zD)HTTZ;(7Q>^WJQPVF<_#1#2H;:sSVM;H;OBBm#?~}
>~{DG<_#1#2WwU=0k>6:\P!#,V;D\4xA=CE;zEZ:MA=8v86SMOd!#R;N^@W4o6~N^;pA&H}~}
>~{N^:=3LH41;3FWw!.NRCG?UVP5D@nOrQt!/#?~}

>  7.~{TxTZ~}ACT~{IO6A5=NDUB=2<_#8RRPTD\:C#,?INRHON*<_#8RRFx6/MbPM~}
>~{@O>I#,U{Le?4Os#6#0#-#7#0Dj4z5DKU#1#5#,;zRmHTJGCW8q#2#1J=5DH}=GRm#,=x~}
>~{Fx5@OsCW8q#2#3#/9m9VJ=#,7"6/;zHTJGCW8q#2#1KySC5D#,U[5~5D89FlJG1jW<5D~}
>~{CW8q#2#3J=#,J5TZ?42;3vK|OH=xTZ:N4&!#SPK-V*5@<_#8RRMFVX1HJG6`IY#?~}

~{TZ9zDZJ1Tx6A9}R;F*7CNJ<_0K6~5DW\Ih<FJ&9KS?7R5DNDUB#,?/5GTZ!.9z<J:=?U!/~}
~{TSV>IO#,9KS?7R5CRb5X?dR+<_0K#8RR5DPTD\#.K{HON*<_0K6~W\LePTD\SESZCW8q~}
~{#2#3#,Fx6/PTSHSE#,UbJ9<_#8RR8D=xS`5X:\4s#,Hg;;W0MFA&8|4s5D7"6/;z:MOH~}
~{=x5D5gWSIh18#.9@<F=+3$J1<d4fTZ#.SISZ>|7Q=tUE#,Rr4KV;D\8cQPVF!"8D=x#,~}
~{N*=+@4Ww<<Ju4"18~}
~{<_#8RRQPVF<F;.?*J<SZ0KJ.Dj4z3uFZ#,JW<\T-PM;zSZ#1#9#8#4Dj#6TB#1#2HUJT~}
~{7I#,JGQPVFV\FZWn6L#,WnK3@{5DR;4N#,7"6/;zN*A=L(#W#P#1#3#A#I#INPEg7"6/;z~}
~{MFA&#4#2#.#7G'E##,<SA&MFA&#6#5#.#9G'E##,4S7"6/;z5D1`:E:MMFA&@4?4KcJG~}
~{<_#7H}7"6/;z5D8DPM0I#.<_#8RRWn4sFp7IVXA?#1#7#,#8#0#09+=o#.~}

~{DDN;PV5\V*5@:N4&?IBr5=!0:=?UV*J6!1#?#?#?PV5\:MF&WSPVR;Qy6AAKJ.<8Dj~}
~{#[:=?UV*J6#]#,Hg=q?42;5=PD@oQw5C:\#,OHP;AK~}

From: ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BlackShroud)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:23:56 GMT

>  1.~{4sB=TZ#5#6DjTl3vCW8q#1#7#,H;:s:\?lSPAKCW8q#1#9#,1HKUA*2n2;~}
>~{AK<8Dj#,N*IuD):s@4R;OBB}OB@4#,V15=OVTZ;9TZSCCW8q#1#9#/#2#1#?=v=vJGRr~}
>~{N*ND8oBp#?;9JGSPIuD)FdK{T-Rr!#~}

Because the Mig-15/17/19 had soviet ppl help us design em.
Even the Mig-21 copy is already an unlicensed copy.

~{:MKUA*6O=;:s>MC;SP0l7(TZDG5=KUA*7I;zH%7BTl!#
~{#m#i#g#2#1JGTZC;SPKUA*0oVzOBIz2z5D#,!!
China got a limited # of Mig-21s before the sino-soviet relations went down.

>  2.~{CW8q#2#1?I4xKDC6?U?U5<5/#,N*IuD)<_#7V;D\9RA=8vSZDZ2`9R<\#,~}
>~{JG7"6/;zMFA&2;WcN^A&9R;9JG;zRm2DAOG?6H2;9;#?~}
>  3.~{4sB=R}=x5D!.K914!/7"6/;zKFN4SCSZHN:N7I;z#,DGN*IuD)R*;/<8RZ~}
>~{C9T*R}=x#?~}

study so we can produce em ourselves someday?
Same reason we traded Egypt J-7s in exchange for a Mig-23, I think.

>  4.~{?45=L(MeTSV>IO=24sB=;9QPVF9}<_#9:M<_#1#35+N4Iz2z#,H7J57q#?~}
>  5.~{4sB=TZ#6#0Dj4zVP>MRQ3I9&5D8c3vA=2`=xFx5DG?#5#,N*IuD)#8#0Dj~}
>~{4z5D<_#8<WHTN*3B>I5DM72?=xFx#?GR<_#8<WR2V;9RA=C6:lMb5<5/SZ;zRmDZ2`9R~}
>~{<\#,3$3$5D;zImIOV;SPR;8v89OB9R<\9R86SMOd!#@`KF5DNw7=7I;zM(3#TZ89OB9R~}
>~{Pm6`6+Nw!#

~{?ID\7"6/;z2;PP!#~}
Even the J-8II's ~{MFA&~} is still only 13200kg.

>  6.~{N*IuD)4sB=TZ#7#0Dj4zD)HTTZ;(7Q>^WJQPVF<_#1#2H;:sSVM;H;OBBm#?~}
>~{DG<_#1#2WwU=0k>6:\P!#,V;D\4xA=CE;zEZ:MA=8v86SMOd!#R;N^@W4o6~N^;pA&H}~}
>~{N^:=3LH41;3FWw!.NRCG?UVP5D@nOrQt!/#?~}

~{<_J.6~:COsJGN*AK#t#e#s#tJ=Qi

>  7.~{TxTZ~}ACT~{IO6A5=NDUB=2<_#8RRPTD\:C#,?INRHON*<_#8RRFx6/MbPM~}
>~{@O>I#,U{Le?4Os#6#0#-#7#0Dj4z5DKU#1#5#,;zRmHTJGCW8q#2#1J=5DH}=GRm#,=x~}
>~{Fx5@OsCW8q#2#3#/9m9VJ=#,7"6/;zHTJGCW8q#2#1KySC5D#,U[5~5D89FlJG1jW<5D~}
>~{CW8q#2#3J=#,J5TZ?42;3vK|OH=xTZ:N4&!#SPK-V*5@<_#8RRMFVX1HJG6`IY#?~}

~{<_0K#2!!MFVX1H#:!!#0!##9#5
~{#m#i#g!!#2#9!!#:!!#1!##1
 Mirage 2000    :    0.97
F-16            :    1.0-1.1
~{<_0K6~N(R;SE5cJGTZ3,RtKYIOG?9}#f#-#1#6#a!!:M;CS0#2#0#0#0~}
(Got these data from ~{:=?UV*J6~}#)

>  8.~{TK#1#0N*:N:s@42;Iz2zAK#?SCK|@4Ww<SSM;z#(OsC9>|UbQy#);rWwT$~}
>~{>/;z2;JG:\:CBp#?~}

Radar and electronics is still the PLA's weakest.. a AWAC
needs very advanced radar tech, which we probably don't have yet.
and most of all.. pla got no $$

>  9.~{NRL}K54sB=OVTZ<_#9RQM62z#(UyCy#)#,!!H7J57q#?
~{:=?UV*J6K59}!.5ZKD4z9z2zU=67;z=+TZ#2#0#0#0DjG0EdW0~{<_0K#1#/#2JG5ZH}4z~}
~{KyRT<_>E?ID\5DH7RTM62z
~{DcV*5@<_>EJGJ2C4QyWS5DC4#?

~{11::
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From: ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu (Dai Yingshi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:16:03 GMT
KAI  WANG (kwang@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:

> Subject: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
> ~{NROkVwR*JGRrN*ND8o0I#.CW8q#2#1SZ#1#9#6#6Dj#1TBJT7I#,3FN*<_F_R;PM#,5+~}
> ~{7"U9PM<_F_6~PMTrSZ#7#5Dj?*J<Ih<F#,#7#8DjJW4NJT7I#,#1#0V.>C#.#.#.#.#.~}
   ~{<_F_R;#,6~#,H}2n1p:N4&#?V;JG<S9R<\#,<S@W4o#?~}

> ~{FdJ5<_#76~8D=x:s5D3v?ZPM?UVPN@J?#F#7#-#M:M<_#7H}RmOB>yTv<SAKA=8vMb9R~}
> ~{5c#,7"6/;zMFA&R2SPKyLa8_#,<_#7H}7"6/;zN*NPEg#1#3#,MFA&#4#0#.#2#1G'E#~}
   ~{5+K|5DMb9R<\4SN4<{9R5<5/#,V;9R#6#0#0#m#l81SMOd~}
   ~{5=5WJGR;C65<5/VX;9JGR;8v81SMO`VX#?~}

> ~{TZ9zDZJ1Tx6A9}R;F*7CNJ<_0K6~5DW\Ih<FJ&9KS?7R5DNDUB#,?/5GTZ!.9z<J:=?U!/~}
> ~{TSV>IO#,9KS?7R5CRb5X?dR+<_0K#8RR5DPTD\#.K{HON*<_0K6~W\LePTD\SESZCW8q~}
> ~{#2#3#,Fx6/PTSHSE#,UbJ9<_#8RR8D=xS`5X:\4s#,Hg;;W0MFA&8|4s5D7"6/;z:MOH~}
> ~{=x5D5gWSIh18#.9@<F=+3$J1<d4fTZ#.SISZ>|7Q=tUE#,Rr4KV;D\8cQPVF!"8D=x#,~}
> ~{N*=+@4Ww<<Ju4"18~}
> ~{<_#8RRQPVF<F;.?*J<SZ0KJ.Dj4z3uFZ#,JW<\T-PM;zSZ#1#9#8#4Dj#6TB#1#2HUJT~}
> ~{7I#,JGQPVFV\FZWn6L#,WnK3@{5DR;4N#,7"6/;zN*A=L(#W#P#1#3#A#I#INPEg7"6/;z~}
> ~{MFA&#4#2#.#7G'E##,<SA&MFA&#6#5#.#9G'E##,4S7"6/;z5D1`:E:MMFA&@4?4KcJG~}
> ~{<_#7H}7"6/;z5D8DPM0I#.<_#8RRWn4sFp7IVXA?#1#7#,#8#0#09+=o#.~}
   ~{CW8q#2#3JG#7#0Dj4z3uAPW05D#,OVTZRQ2;JGKU?U>|VwA&#,<_0KRRJG#9#0~}
~{Dj4z5D#,1HK|:CJGWTH;#,SP:N:C45#?<_0KRR?4UUF,R2V;9RKDC6:lMb8q675<5/SZRm~}
~{OB#,N^VP3L#/T63L?U?U5/#,2;V*N*:NR*;/4sG.8DW0PB@W4o#?6xGRNRFf9VK|=xFx5@~}
~{OBN^9R<\#,V;JG<uKY0e6xRQ#,6xMb9zPB;zDG5X7=6<SC@49RVP3L?U?U5/#,NR;3RIIh~}
~{<FJ&2"2;OsK{WT455DDGD):C!#~}

~{F&WS!!O92B~}
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From: ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu (Dai Yingshi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:24:33 GMT
BlackShroud (ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
> ~{<_0K#2!!MFVX1H#:!!#0!##9#5
> ~{#m#i#g!!#2#9!!#:!!#1!##1
>  Mirage 2000    :    0.97
> F-16            :    1.0-1.1

        ~{<G5D#7#9Dj5D#[:=?UV*J6#]IO=2;CS0#2#0#0#0MFVX1HCcG?9}#1#,;9K5#1~}
~{JG6T8q67<_;w;z5DWnFpBkR*Gs!#~}Discovery channel~{5D~}Wings of Red Star
~{=2CW8q#2#9MFVX1H4sSZ#1!##21H#f#-#1#6;9:C~}

> ~{:=?UV*J6K59}!.5ZKD4z9z2zU=67;z=+TZ#2#0#0#0DjG0EdW0!/.
> ~{<_0K#1#/#2JG5ZH}4z!#!!KyRT<_>E?ID\5DH7RTM62z
> ~{DcV*5@<_>EJGJ2C4QyWS5DC4#?
> Any data?
        ~{<{5=9}R;UETZ7g64VP5D@`KF#f#-#1#65DUUF,#,2;V*JG2;JG~}

> ~{11::

~{F&WS~}
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From: c04c@zfn.uni-bremen.de (~{1?HK~}(Chaofeng Zhang))
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: 21 Mar 1994 12:31:45 GMT
KAI  WANG (kwang@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: ~{CW8q#2#15DVBC|Hu5c>MJG7"6/;zMFA&2;4s#,Tl3IWwU=0k>6P!:MTX5/A?IY#.>]<r~}

~{6T#!Ok513uCW8q#2#15DIh<FK<Ok>MJGN*G0O_:=?U1x2?6SLa9)R;VVGaPM<_;w;z#,R*~}
~{GsD\TZ<rB*5DR0U=;z3!IOFp=5!#FdVwR*HNNqJGN*R0U=2?6SLa9)?UVP1#;$#,<4R0U=~}
~{7@?U!#K|5D3$4&JGAi;n#,JJSZ=|>a@k8q67#,6T5X9%;w:MT63L@9=X2;JGK|5D3$4&!#~}
~{S!OsVPTgFZ5DCW8q#2#15DWwU=0k>6V;SP#3#5#09+@o#(2;9R81SMOd5DGi?vOB#)!#~}

~{K31c36R;5cE\Lb5DOPF*!#51Dj5DKUA*JG>|JB4s9z#,?U>|5D;zPM:\7a8;!#KyRT8wVV~}
~{7I;z5D7V9$O`51CwH7!#OsCW8q#2#1JGW018G0O_:=?U1xJ&5DGaPM<_;w;z#,HNNqJGR0~}
~{U=7@?U#;6x9zMA7@?U5DHNNqR;0cSICW8q#2#3#S!"CW8q#2#55#8:!#6T5XCfR0U=2?6S~}
~{La9)V1=S5D;pA&V'T.!"=xPPU=3!UZ6O#,R;0cSIKU#2#4#(R2=PKU#1#9#)5#8:!#~}

~{5+JG#,VP9zC;SPDGC46`G.:M<<JuA&A?7"U96`VV;zPM#,SZJG6TCW8q#2#1La3vAK9}8_~}
~{5DR*Gs#,O#M{K|R;Im6`D\!#Ub>MOsR*Gs#P#C;z0QM<PN4&@m!"#A#u#d#i#o4&@mMj3I~}
~{5CSV?lSV:CR;Qy!#:s@4#,VP9zMATl6y5DCW8q#2#18DA<PM5DH7SPAK8|4s5DWwU=0k>6!"~}
~{8|:C5DVP5M?UPTD\#,Hg<_F_"s!"#F#-#7#M!#5+JGCW8q#2#1OHLl2;Wc5DHu5cDQRT?K~}
~{7~!#~}

~{MxIOL81x#,9bK52;A7!#!*!*2;O#M{4rUL~}
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From: wen@curie.cs.ucdavis.edu (Wei Jun Wen)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 19:21:50 GMT
Lines: 17

Dai Yingshi (ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu) wrote:
: > Subject: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}

: > ~{FdJ5<_#76~8D=x:s5D3v?ZPM?UVPN@J?#F#7#-#M:M<_#7H}RmOB>yTv<SAKA=8vMb9R~}
: > ~{5c#,7"6/;zMFA&R2SPKyLa8_#,<_#7H}7"6/;zN*NPEg#1#3#,MFA&#4#0#.#2#1G'E#~}
:       ~{5+K|5DMb9R<\4SN4<{9R5<5/#,V;9R#6#0#0#m#l81SMOd~}
:       ~{5=5WJGR;C65<5/VX;9JGR;8v81SMO`VX#?~}

~{<_#-#7"s?I9RKDC6#P#L#-#7?U?U5<5/#,~}  ~{<{#8#9Dj5Z#1#0FZ~}
~{!6:=?UV*J6!75DVPPD2eR3!#~}
 
~{8wN;?ISP<_:d#-#75D=|?v#?~}  ~{#8#9DjRQ<{5=K|5DD#PM#,5+N4~}
~{<{9}Uf;z5DUUF,!#~}
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|       Wei Jun Wen             wjwen@chip.ucdavis.edu  |
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From: ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu (Dai Yingshi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: 21 Mar 1994 19:46:09 GMT
~{1?HK~}(Chaofeng Zhang) (c04c@zfn.uni-bremen.de) wrote:
> ~{6T#!Ok513uCW8q#2#15DIh<FK<Ok>MJGN*G0O_:=?U1x2?6SLa9)R;VVGaPM<_;w;z#,R*~}
> ~{GsD\TZ<rB*5DR0U=;z3!IOFp=5!#FdVwR*HNNqJGN*R0U=2?6SLa9)?UVP1#;$#,<4R0U=~}
> ~{7@?U!#K|5D3$4&JGAi;n#,JJSZ=|>a@k8q67#,6T5X9%;w:MT63L@9=X2;JGK|5D3$4&!#~}
> ~{S!OsVPTgFZ5DCW8q#2#15DWwU=0k>6V;SP#3#5#09+@o#(2;9R81SMOd5DGi?vOB#)!#~}

        ~{K55DR;5c2;2n#,TZ~}Discovery~{2%5DO5APVP#,6TCW8q#2#1F@<[Iu8_~}
~{CW8q#2#1NeJ.Dj4zVPFZQPVF#,:sFZ<0AyJ.Dj4z3uFZAPW0#,92Iz2z0KG'6`<\#,VA~}
~{=qHU;9;nT>TZPm6`9z<R5D?U>|VP#,FdQ\Iz8D=xPMHgVP9z5D3,#7#,RTI+AP#/B^Bm~}
~{DaQG5DCW8q#2#1#-#2#0#0#0#,OVTZ;9TZQPVF#/Iz2zVP!#F&WSNR51Dj6ACW8_Qo5D~}
~{4+<G#,DZ3FCW8q#2#1JGK{@OPVV0R5IzQD5D6%7e#(#1#9#3#9Dj=(Ih<F>V#,F_J.Dj~}
~{4z3u9JH%#,Vw3VIh<FCW8q#1#/#3#/#9#/#1#5#/#1#7#/#1#9#/#2#1#/#2#3#)~}

> ~{K31c36R;5cE\Lb5DOPF*!#51Dj5DKUA*JG>|JB4s9z#,?U>|5D;zPM:\7a8;!#KyRT8wVV~}
> ~{7I;z5D7V9$O`51CwH7!#OsCW8q#2#1JGW018G0O_:=?U1xJ&5DGaPM<_;w;z#,HNNqJGR0~}
> ~{U=7@?U#;6x9zMA7@?U5DHNNqR;0cSICW8q#2#3#S!"CW8q#2#55#8:!#6T5XCfR0U=2?6S~}
> ~{La9)V1=S5D;pA&V'T.!"=xPPU=3!UZ6O#,R;0cSIKU#2#4#(R2=PKU#1#9#)5#8:!#~}

        ~{675(K5R;>d#,DzJG2;JG0QJ1<dK3Pr8cBRAK~}

        ~{#5#0Dj4zVP5=#6#0Dj4zVP:s#,CW8q#2#1#,KU#9#/#1#1R0U=7@?U#,KU#76T~}
~{5X9%;w#,H+Ll:r#/R9<dWwU=SIQE?K#2#8#,M<#2#85#HN!#DGJ1CW8q#2#3#/#2#5:MKU~}
~{#2#4IPN4APW0!#~}
        ~{#6#0Dj4z:s#-#7#0Dj4zD)#,CW8q#2#11HK95H:sFZ8DPMWwG0O_7@?U#,CW8q#2#3~}
~{KU#1#5Ww9zMA7@?U#,KU#1#7#/#2#0#/#2#2#/#2#46T5X9%;w!#CW8q#2#5V;SCWwUl2l~}
~{:M@9=X8_?UHkGV5D:dU(#/Ul2l;z~}
        ~{#7#0Dj4zD)#-#8#0Dj4z#-OVTZ#,CW8q#2#35D:sFZPM#,KU#1#58DPM#,CW8q#2#9~}
~{3P5#AKR;O_7@?U5DHNNq#,KU#2#7#/CW8q#3#1WwT6>`@9=X#/VF?U#,KU#2#4#/CW8q#2#7~}
~{KU#2#5SCWw3$#/6L>`6T5X9%;w~}
        ~{=vJGF&WS5D?47(~}

> ~{MxIOL81x#,9bK52;A7!#!*!*2;O#M{4rUL~}

        ~{:\O#M{4rUL#,UbQyF&WS2ED\;k8vP!>|7'5DW_978I8I#,4s>F4sHb#,H}~}
~{F^KDf*!#!#!#!#:G:G:G:G!#~}

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~{GR@VIzG0R;1->F#,:NPhIm:sG'TXC{!!#-#-#-#-#-#-!!F&WSWTCc~}
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From: ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu (Dai Yingshi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb
Date: 22 Mar 1994 00:15:20 GMT
J. Wu (JWU@CHEMISTRY.watstar.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
> kwang@eos.ncsu.edu (KAI  WANG) writes:
>               ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ~{M72?=xFx2"2;K5Cw3B>I!#VwR*JG@W4o5H5gWSIh182;:C7E!#Oq~}F-16~{5D=xFx7=J=
> ~{J5<JIOJGM72?=xFx5DR;VV7-0f#(~}A-6~{>MJGUbQy#)!#

~{#f#-#1#6#/#a#-#6Jt#[892?=xFx#]#,M72?@W4oUVDZHTH;SPWc9;5D?U<d7E6+Nw!#~}
~{<_#8M72?5w=ZW6DZ5D@W4o?VEB:\P!#,SPK-V*5@<_#85D@W4o9&D\Hg:N#?~}

~{:\OkGk=LR;OB#,N*J2D)4SN4<{U=67;z#[132?=xFx#]DX#?DGQy2;JG~}
~{?IRTLZ3v89OB?U<d@49R:\6`6+NwBp#?~}

> ~{K5Fp89OB9R<\#,;zImP!AK>M7E2;OBL+6`6+Nw!#NR?49}~}F-15~{#,K|89OBSPF=PP5DA=
> ~{EE9R<\#,SP~}YAG~{<$9bFw#,;9SPR;8vR:5*VF@d5D:lMb@W4o!#UbA=8v<R;o8vM76<2;P!!#
> ~{5+~}F-15~{Fp7IVXA?=|#3#06V!#<_#-#8?VEBC;UbD)4s0I#?~{N^<R~}

        ~{IuD)=P#[:lMb@W4o#]#?
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From: ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BlackShroud)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:01:10 GMT
Lines: 46

In article <2mjej1$div@hermes.unt.edu>,
Dai Yingshi <ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:
>BlackShroud (ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
>> ~{<_0K#2!!MFVX1H#:!!#0!##9#5
>> ~{#m#i#g!!#2#9!!#:!!#1!##1
>>  Mirage 2000    :    0.97
>> F-16            :    1.0-1.1
>
>       ~{<G5D#7#9Dj5D#[:=?UV*J6#]IO=2;CS0#2#0#0#0MFVX1HCcG?9}#1#,;9K5#1~}
>~{JG6T8q67<_;w;z5DWnFpBkR*Gs!#~}Discovery channel~{5D~}Wings of Red Star
>~{=2CW8q#2#9MFVX1H4sSZ#1!##21H#f#-#1#6;9:C~}
>

I doubt mirage 2000 has a TW greater than 1. Not sure though.

Mig-29's TW was listed in some books as 1.1-1.3, I dont know 
how the count em. Also, the data listed above is full
military power I think, most planes will get much better
TW if they engage their afterburners.


>> ~{:=?UV*J6K59}!.5ZKD4z9z2zU=67;z=+TZ#2#0#0#0DjG0EdW0!/.
>> ~{<_0K#1#/#2JG5ZH}4z!#!!KyRT<_>E?ID\5DH7RTM62z
>> ~{DcV*5@<_>EJGJ2C4QyWS5DC4#?
>> Any data?
>       ~{<{5=9}R;UETZ7g64VP5D@`KF#f#-#1#65DUUF,#,2;V*JG2;JG~}

HUH? 

Heard the new fighter is not a copy. If it is, it could
well be Mig-31 since that is already in production.
>> ~{11::
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From: ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BlackShroud)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:07:35 GMT
Lines: 33

In article <2mje33$div@hermes.unt.edu>,
Dai Yingshi <ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:
>KAI  WANG (kwang@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>
>> ~{<_#8RRQPVF<F;.?*J<SZ0KJ.Dj4z3uFZ#,JW<\T-PM;zSZ#1#9#8#4Dj#6TB#1#2HUJT~}
>> ~{7I#,JGQPVFV\FZWn6L#,WnK3@{5DR;4N#,7"6/;zN*A=L(#W#P#1#3#A#I#INPEg7"6/;z~}
>> ~{MFA&#4#2#.#7G'E##,<SA&MFA&#6#5#.#9G'E##,4S7"6/;z5D1`:E:MMFA&@4?4KcJG~}
>> ~{<_#7H}7"6/;z5D8DPM0I#.<_#8RRWn4sFp7IVXA?#1#7#,#8#0#09+=o#.~}
>       ~{CW8q#2#3JG#7#0Dj4z3uAPW05D#,OVTZRQ2;JGKU?U>|VwA&#,<_0KRRJG#9#0~}
>~{Dj4z5D#,1HK|:CJGWTH;#,SP:N:C45#?<_0KRR?4UUF,R2V;9RKDC6:lMb8q675<5/SZRm~}
>~{OB#,N^VP3L#/T63L?U?U5/#,2;V*N*:NR*;/4sG.8DW0PB@W4o#?6xGRNRFf9VK|=xFx5@~}
>~{OBN^9R<\#,V;JG<uKY0e6xRQ#,6xMb9zPB;zDG5X7=6<SC@49RVP3L?U?U5/#,NR;3RIIh~}
>~{<FJ&2"2;OsK{WT455DDGD):C!#~}
>       
>
>~{F&WS!!O92B~}
J-82 is good above mach 1. (ie, it can run away ;> ).
But if engaged in BFM dogfight I doubt it can beat
any other modern fighters such as the F-16/Mig-29.

Does china even have any Radar guided air-air missiles??
I thought all the Red-Star missiles are heat seekers.
~{11::
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From: ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BlackShroud)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:29:37 GMT
Lines: 61
In article <2mjer9$lth@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw.z>,
 <i2480108@dec2.ncku.edu.tw> wrote:
>          ~{SPC;SPHKD\=iI\R;OB~} SU-27??
>      ~{by~}
Wow.. ~{DcR2O2;6U=67;z#?
~{#s#u#-#2#7!!JGVXPM~}Interceptor, ~{:\OsNw7=#f#-#1#4#/#1#5
~{5D5XN;~}.~{7"6/;z6/A&#*:COs#*C;SP#f#-#1#4#b5D4s#,2;9}R*
~{G?9}#f#-#1#4#a!#

Carrying AA-8, AA-10, AA-11 missiles the max engage range
of the SU-27 is limited to 22NM? (not sure, I'm too lazy
to check the books ;P, but pretty sure the AA-8/11 are
shortrange heat seekers and the AA-10's max range is
no more than 25)

So the Su-27 can only shoot targets around 21nm away,
while the F-14 can engage at 120nm away with its
Aim-54, and the F-15/16 can engage at 26nm away
with AIM-120 missiles.

So if a SU-27 get into a longrange (beyong visiual range)
fight with a F-14/15/16, It will probably get shot down
since the lmited range of its weapons...

However if they get into a close combat, the Su-27
probably win cuz it's AA-11 missiles (11nm), 
its helmet sight weapon arming system, and the
way cool 'cobra' manoeuvre , which allows the Su-27 (and Mig29)
to pull up almost vertical and stops in the air..

Overall the SU-27 is probably the russian's 2nd best
interceptor ( Mig-31 has longer range missiles) and
2nd best fighter (Mig-29 has better turning rate)..

and if you ask me, I'd say the su-27 'sucks' ;>,
cuz it looks so big and stupid. ;P
Hey, anyone want talk about missiles?  It almost
seems missiles are more important than its 
carriers these days..
argh.. hmm.. what am I talking about, sorry, bye.
~{11::
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From: ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BlackShroud)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:35:13 GMT
Lines: 33

In article <2mjkm6$gqe@crl2.crl.com>, Ralph Peng <prl@crl.com> wrote:
>i2480108@dec2.ncku.edu.tw wrote:
>:           ~{SPC;SPHKD\=iI\R;OB~} SU-27??
>~{3,<65D4s!#?IRT:M#f#-#1#51H#,5+>v6TC;K{:C~}
How do you know Ralph? 
Oh yeah, btw, I made a mistake in my last post, the F-15 cannot
carry AIM-120s, it can carry only AIM-7 and AIM-9!!
AIM-7's range is same is SU-27's AA-11, but AIM7 sparrow
uses semi-active radar guiding while the AA-11 is 
fire and forget. What it means is the F-15 have to keep
its missile locked on target until it hits! While the
Su-27 can choose a target, fire, break, choose new target,
fire again.. THIS IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE IN AIR COMBAT!

So from that point of view, SU-27 can kick F-15's butt ;P.
The F-15 is probably faster than the SU though..
~{11::
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From: thssjyh@iitmax.iit.edu (Jianqing Hu)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 14:55:14 GMT
Lines: 25

In article <CMxynw.H3r@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU> ellisje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BlackShroud) writes:

>>      3.~{4sB=R}=x5D!.K914!/7"6/;zKFN4SCSZHN:N7I;z#,DGN*IuD)R*;/<8RZ~}
>>~{C9T*R}=x#?~}
>
   ~{D3Al5<PDQ*@431~}. ~{51J1:COsJG=b>v2;AKFx6/A&2?>VNJLb~}.
   (~{J.<8DjC;?4~}<~{:=?UV*J6~}>~{AK~}, ~{2;V*8CSCJ2wa4J:C~}.)
   ~{<G5CDGJ1WT<:Tl3v@45D7"6/;z;95CTK;XS"9zH%2bJT~}.
   ~{IO4sQ'J1~}, ~{SPR;4NH%G`5:~}. ~{B7IO:MR;8vIrQtTl7I;z5DVw6yAD~}.
   ~{DGHKK5NwI3H:5:4rULJ1~}, ~{DOT=?}@\OkMf6y?U>|~}. ~{VP9z51J13v6/~}
   ~{;9TZJTQi5D<_0K5=DG1_6yHFAKR;H&6y~}, ~{A"Bm6yUsW!AK5PHK~}.
   ~{51J15D<_0K;92;D\9RHN:NNdFw~}.

   ~{SPV*J5Gi5D8x=2=2~} ?
Jianqing Hu     ~{:z=!G`~}          |  Internet: thssjyh@iitmax.acc.iit.edu
ECE Dept.  Illinois Inst. of Tech.  |  
Chicago, IL 60616                   |  Office phone: 312-567-6971
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From: dai@zauberer.rst.fujixerox.co.jp (Dai Zhen Jiang)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
Date: 23 Mar 1994 04:41:01 GMT
>>~{IO4sQ'J1~}, ~{SPR;4NH%G`5:~}. ~{B7IO:MR;8vIrQtTl7I;z5DVw6yAD~}.
   ~{DGHKK5NwI3H:5:4rULJ1~}, ~{DOT=?}@\OkMf6y?U>|~}. ~{VP9z51J13v6/~}
   ~{;9TZJTQi5D<_0K5=DG1_6yHFAKR;H&6y~}, ~{A"Bm6yUsW!AK5PHK~}.
   ~{51J15D<_0K;92;D\9RHN:NNdFw~}.

  >> ~{SPV*J5Gi5D8x=2=2~} ?

~{NwI3H:5:4rULJ1~},~{<_0K;9V;SPD#PM~},~{TuwaD\DC3v@4HFH&~}.
~{RT:s5DVPT=U=Uy~},~{R2V;J9SCAKUl2l;z~},~{C;SP6/SCU=67;z~}.
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From: dai@zauberer.rst.fujixerox.co.jp (Dai Zhen Jiang)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb~}
Date: 23 Mar 1994 05:11:41 GMT
~{4sB=VwA&;zVVN*<_~}5~{:M<_~}6,~{VwR*JGWwU=PTD\:C~},~{<_#8~}-2~{KY6H:C~}
~{5+WwU=0k>6P!~}.
~{JG7BCW8q#2#3Tl5D~}. ~{V;9RA=C65<5/VwR*JGAi;nPTNJLbJ<VUN4D\=b>v~}.
~{VASZ<_#8RT:s5D;zVV~},~{V;JG:=?UTSV>BRP46xR`~},2000~{Dj4sB==+RT<_#8N*~}
~{VwA&;zVV~}.
~{G?#5JG5XCf9%;w;z~},~{3,5M?U7IPP~},~{9%;w5XCf2?6S~}.~{Sk<_#8Ih<F7=UkTrH;O`74~}.
~{TK#1#0N*TKJd;z~}.~{Wv<SSM;zPh=b>v?UVP<SSMNJLb~}.~{WwT$>/;zPh=b>v;p?XW0VC~}
~{NJLb~}.


From: jsong@uceng.uc.edu (Jun Song)
Subject: ~{TY4N#p#o#s#tKU#_#2#7
Message-ID: <Cn4J5I.16D@uceng.uc.edu>
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:32:06 GMT
Lines: 53
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~{;wD\A&!##f#_#1#55DTX5/A??I4o#1#06V#,4sSZ92>|5DHN:NR;VVW(V05D:dU(;z5DTX5/~}
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~{=P#m#i#g#-#2#9#,A=8vHK?IRT8wWTQ!Tq#m#i#g#_#2#9;r#f#-#1#6M(9}#m#o#d#e#n6T~}
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~{#-KN~}
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From: "Antony Zhong S." <G-SZ@PHYSICS1.BYU.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb~}Re:~{>|JBNJLb
Date: 24 Mar 1994 01:55:34 +0800
> >>~{IO4sQ'J1~}, ~{SPR;4NH%G`5:~}. ~{B7IO:MR;8vIrQtTl7I;z5DVw6yAD~}.
>    ~{DGHKK5NwI3H:5:4rULJ1~}, ~{DOT=?}@\OkMf6y?U>|~}.
~{VP9z51J13v6/~}
>    ~{;9TZJTQi5D<_0K5=DG1_6yHFAKR;H&6y~}, ~{A"Bm6yUsW!AK5PHK~}.
>    ~{51J15D<_0K;92;D\9RHN:NNdFw~}.
>
>   >> ~{SPV*J5Gi5D8x=2=2~} ?
>
> ~{NwI3H:5:4rULJ1~},~{<_0K;9V;SPD#PM~},~{TuwaD\DC3v@4HFH&~}.
> ~{RT:s5DVPT=U=Uy~},~{R2V;J9SCAKUl2l;z~},~{C;SP6/SCU=67;z~}.

~{NwI3H:5:4rULJ1#,<_0KH7J53v6/9}!#>]!>DO7g40!?#1#9#9#3#.#1#0#(#1#1#?#)
~{51J1#,EIAKR;<\<_0KJTQi;zH%Ul2l#,#(RrN*V;SP<_0KD\7IDGC4T6#)#,;92;V*5@
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~{C;UsW!DOT=2;V*5@#,<_0K5DT6:=D\A&H4JT3vAK~}
~{@cM7G`~}
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From: ziniuwei@cs.buffalo.edu (Ziniu Wei)
Subject: Re: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 20:29:48 GMT
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Dai Yingshi (ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu) wrote:
: ~{#f#-#1#6#/#a#-#6Jt#[892?=xFx#]#,M72?@W4oUVDZHTH;SPWc9;5D?U<d7E6+Nw!#~}
: ~{<_#8M72?5w=ZW6DZ5D@W4o?VEB:\P!#,SPK-V*5@<_#85D@W4o9&D\Hg:N#?~}
: ~{:\OkGk=LR;OB#,N*J2D)4SN4<{U=67;z#[132?=xFx#]DX#?DGQy2;JG~}
: ~{?IRTLZ3v89OB?U<d@49R:\6`6+NwBp#?~}

~{NROk#,132?=xFxJ1=xFx?Z2zIz5DHEAw;aS0Ol49V1N2Rm5D9&D\#,=x6x~}
~{S0Ol7I;z5DNH6(PT~}
--
Ziniu Wei               CEDAR, SUNY at Buffalo       ziniuwei@cs.buffalo.edu
~{@O3LPrT1S@T62;K@#,K{CGV;JGLx5=PB5D5XV7~}
Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.
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From: prl@crl.com (Ralph Peng)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{TY4N#p#o#s#tKU#_#2#7
Date: 23 Mar 1994 17:05:25 -0800
Jun Song (jsong@uceng.uc.edu) wrote:

~{Ub>d;0JGNRK55C!#!#~}
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From: ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu (Dai Yingshi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: Re: ~{TY4N#p#o#s#tKU#_#2#7
Date: 24 Mar 1994 03:46:30 GMT
Yang Yuanxin (bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu) wrote:
> In article <Cn4J5I.16D@uceng.uc.edu>, Jun Song <jsong@uceng.uc.edu> wrote:
> >~{5+JG#,#f#-#1#5#c#/#dH41;7"U93I?I6T5X9%;wPM#,K|?IM,J1P/4x?U?U:M?U5X5<5/;rU(~}
> >~{5/V4PP:dU(HNNq#,2"2;PhR*1p5D;zVV;$:=!#2"C;SPL}K5#s#u#-#2#7SP:\G?5D6T5X9%~}
> >~{;wD\A&!##f#_#1#55DTX5/A??I4o#1#06V#,4sSZ92>|5DHN:NR;VVW(V05D:dU(;z5DTX5/~}
> >~{A?!#~}

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~{KU#7#?NROkDcOkK5KU#2#7#,6T2;#?KU#7JG#5#0Dj4z5D#,TX5/A?:MG?#52n2;6`!#~}
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From: ip11@jove.acs.unt.edu (Dai Yingshi)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: ~{7ER;EZ~}Re:~{TY4N#p#o#s#tKU#_#2#7
Date: 24 Mar 1994 04:24:29 GMT
Ralph Peng (prl@crl.com) wrote:
> Jun Song (jsong@uceng.uc.edu) wrote:
> ~{Ub>d;0JGNRK55C!#!#~}
> ~{2;9}1pNs;a#,NR51H;O#M{#p#l#aBr5D#s#u#-#2#7:CAK!#NR?4AK:\6`9XSZ~}
> ~{#s#u#-#2#7:MFdK{KUU=;z5DB<Oq!#NRV*5@#s#u#_#2#7SP6`:C~}
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> ~{;z2VDZ5DOTJ>6<JG5gWS;05D!#Wn6T#s#u#-#2#72;@{5DJGK{C;SP#(#f#l#y!!#b#y~}
> ~{#w#i#r#e#)Ub8v:\VXR*#,7IPPT1TZ?UVPR;V1R*JG7I;z1#3VF=:b!#2;Ok#f#-#1#5
> ~{?IW*5=R;8vN;VC?IM#5=:\W<5D5X7=TZ7"Id5<5/!#NRR2K52;Ge#f#l#y!!#b#y
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> ~{6TAK#,?4C;?4R;K57I;z5D#n#e#w#s#g#r#o#u#p#?
> ~{K{CGU}K5#m#i#g#-#3#3:M#s#u#-#3#5~}

        ~{?I4SC@~}Aviation Week & Space Technology ~{7bCf9JJB?4#,DG~}
~{KU#3#5UfU}JG?UVP4sK'8g#,R;<60t#!#!~}

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From: kwang@eos.ncsu.edu (KAI  WANG)
Newsgroups: alt.chinese.text
Subject: ~{U=67;z5DNJLb#,2;R*P!?46m9z;u~}
Date: 24 Mar 1994 05:00:57 GMT
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