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Subject: Re: ~{9XSZ3vO/Q'WTA*Ay4s5D1(8f#(6~#)~}
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>~{8q!#~}
 
 xiao-du, 

 I simply have some questions: 

 So people from Buffalo alone carry 9 votes? How many delegates can
 have from each organization? Let me see, 

 Chinese Student and Scholars Assocation: 1
 6-4 Foundation:                          1
 Multiple disciplinary group:             1
 Scholar representative?                  1
 Literature club:                         1
 go club:                                 1
 gas work club:                           1

 Why I can not add up to 9? And also the `Scholar representative'
 is a UB registered organization? And also the `gas work club' is
 also a registered organization? I feel it is a little funny 
 for `go club', `gas work club' to send representatives to vote
 for IFCSS president and vice president. Are they ( the individual
 members ) all belong to Chinese Student and Scholars Association? 

 Let me give an example, Say the CSSA has 10 people, And among the 
 the 10 people, 5 of them can form another club, the by
 some mathematics, there can be 10!/(5!5!) = 252 clubs. And each
 club can send a representative, and then the 10 people can carry 
 252+1=253 votes? It makes little sense to me. 

 And also what the reason that the UB chinese community was not
 informed about the delegation before and after the meeting via
 the local network? People who can read alt.chinese.text is a minority
 among UB chinese porpulation, I would think. 

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From: pckoo@lynx.cat.syr.edu ()
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Subject: Re: ~{Q'WTA*Ay4s5D74K<B<~}reflections on 6th IFCSS congress
Date: 30 Jul 1994 13:28:57 GMT
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In article <053313Z30071994@anon.penet.fi> an117588@anon.penet.fi writes:
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Subject:  About IFCSS congress 
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The first time for me to hear about the local delegation for IFCSS
congress is via Du Zhengdong's post on this net, and I have a lot of
questions.

First of all, I am surprised that people at University of Buffalo can
have as much as 9 votes. Let us say, UB has 450 people, then that
effectively means 50 people can have one vote. How about other
universities which have similar or larger Chinese population?  Do they
got 50 people 1 vote? As far as I know, the total votes are about 200,
so University of Buffalo has about 5% of the total votes? 

I later heard that Lu Shuping was running for the IFCSS council
member. I believe this automatically disqualifies her as a CND
reporter for this meeting to avoid conflict of interest. She can,
however, report as an individual, but that does not seem to be what
appeared on the CND news. 

I would refrain myself from saying more about CND given that I know
what kind of answers I would get. 

PS: I have nothing against Du Zhendong, Lu Shuping, Luo Ning. I believe
I have some legitimate questions to ask. 


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