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              7/2/90)
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Greetings,

        Someone asked early today about my survey on Chinese Word
Processors on Macintosh and I promised to send it to him as soon as I
dig it out. I revised it a little and maybe some of you will be
interested in it as well. So here it goes.

-- Kang Sun
   Yale University
   Department of Electrical Engineering
   Center for Systems Science
   P.O.Box 1968, Yale Station
   New Haven, CT 06520-1968
   sun@robios.eng.yale.edu

=======================

                A SURVEY ON CHINESE WORD PROCESSORS

                                Sun, Kang

Part II: Chinese Word Processors for Macintosh (revised on 7/2/90)

Finally I got a chance to continue my survey on Chinese Word
Processors. Since the Mac's are relative new monsters, there are not many
choices available. I hereby review the three products that I have heard of.

A. Fei1 Ma3 (Flying Horse): It is the earlist CWP for Mac that I
ever heard. Developed by a Mr. Wu at Boston, it is very well protected both
technically and politically, in spite of many drawbacks it has. For the
good parts, it support Pin Yin plus tone inputs of  simplified characters,
along with other ways of inputs, such as Chinese Typewriter style Character
Board, and even "drawing and find" method, for those who cannot master Pin
Yin. The best thing I like about it is its capability of creating your own
characters, so you can invent your own character if needed. The major
drawbacks, which I cannot tolerate, is that it only runs on two floppy
disks. The Flying Horse won't fly on your luxury hard disk. The second
problem is it can only print on imagewriters, because it does not support
LaserWriter. After all, I feel that Flying Horse is not very Mac-like and is
 isolated from all the HiTechs.

B. MacChinese: This is noting but a set of fonts and a glossary
file for Microsoft Word. You know how to use MS Word, do you? In MS Word,
you can store your frequently used strings in a glossary files and give it
a short name. Then when you need this string, simply recall it out from the
glossary file with its name. This is exact trick it is played here. There
are about ten fonts, each contains hundreds of characters. Each character
is encoded with Pin Yin according to its Cantonese pronounciation (Yes!
Cantonese!). For the characters with the same sounds, two digits are used
to distinguish it. For example, the character Wang (King) is encoded as
"wang12", which means it is the 12th "wang"-sound character. One inputs the
whole text by manipulating with the glossary file. Since it is inside MS
WORD, all the standard MS WORD and Mac system functionalities are
preserved. I heard there is a version based on standard mandarine pronouciation,
 but I never see one.

C. Chinese Talk (ZhongWen talk or HanZi Talk): I have quite a lot
to say about this. Chinse Talk it more than just a Word Processor; It is
indeed a Chinese Operating System. Let me put it this way. Suppose computer
technology was all invented in China by Chinese and that Chinese is the
only language in the world, what do you think you will see on the screen
when you boot up your Mac? Instead of seeing FILE EDIT etc on the menu bar,
you will see in Chinese Wen2 Jian4, Bian1 Ji2, etc. Well, this is what a
"Chinese System" does and indeed you see this when you boot up Chinese Talk.

If you are a sophiscated Mac user, then you probably know that
Macintosh gives you a lot of ways to customize your application and even
systems to your own taste, or modify even totally change certain
funcionalities of the system by so-called "patching it". Chinese Talk was
develovped by patching the standard Macintosh system. First, the functions
related to the storage and display of fonts are patched so that it
recognize Chinese. Then, the functions relating to keyboard inputs are
patched to allow Pin Yin or other mode of Chinese Character inputs.
Finally, all the strings in menus and dialogs re-writen with Chinese. A
Chinese system was then obtained, which differs from the standard System only
in the way of keyboard inputs and fonts display. All the other features,
such as printing, highlight, cut and paste, justifying etc are well
preserved.

There are two mutually incompativle versions: Bejing version and
Taipei version.  Taipei version uses the complicated Chinese Characters and
supports its Taiwan style Pin Yin, which is rather troublesome to those
from mainland China; I believe it also support some other input method, but not
 Pin Yin. Beijing version uses simplified characters and
Pin Yin input mode. One types in the Pin Yin code and the tone of a character,
then chooses from the prompted list of matching characters. The official release
 also supports some other input method, such as input by internal code, but not
 entry by works. Luckily, Ed Lai from Apple (lai@apple.com) has added a the
 feature of entry by words, and it works fine on my Mac+.

Utilities has also been written, by, I believe, yeung@june.cs.washington.edu to
 convert files from Taipei version format to Beijing version format and vice
 versa. If you like comlex characters but prefer Pin Yin input mode, you can
"re-index" the Taibei fonts to make them work with Beijing version of Chinese
 Talk.

Since it is a "Chinese System", vs an application as Fei Ma is,
in principle, all the standard Macitosh application can work upon it, or at
 least they suppose to work. Apple has tried to make it as compatible to all the
 software and hardware as possible. Most applications will not bomb under the
 system unless they require high version of system to function. And you can type
  Chinese in quite a lot of applications. Here is a list of applications I have
 tested working under Chinese Talk.

MacWrite, SuperPaint, MacProject, MacPaint, PageMaker, ReadySetGo
4.0, HyperCard (if you have enough memory) etc, and you will have no
problem until the time you want to do editing (e.g. cut, copy, past, and
insert). Somehow, it is not very friendly with MicroSoft products, such as
MS WORD and MS EXCEL. The reason is that Apple has developed a standard
 interface for international languages, which is called "script manager",
 however, most software developers are not following this standard, thus produce
 problems. TeachText is the only commonly available application that follows the
 standard and thus, work perfectly. But, you cannot do much with it, can you?
 More complicated applications that support script manager is availble but quite
 expensive. You can get AllScript (a word processor) for $350 or so.

I especially appreciate the feature that it works with HyperCard. You need
 computer not only for editing papers, do you? What about your note card? Now
 you can maintain your address/phone book, note book both in English and
 Chinese.

The current vocabulary consists all the characters in the first
two list of PRC National Standard of Chinese Characters for Communication.
It only supports one font, Bejing 12 (a 16 point font). But one can alway
stretch or shrink a character using the font size function. You can modify
 existing characters or add new characters; There's no way to assign a Pin Yin
 code to added characters, which are only accessible via internal coes.

 Version (1.0) does not work on Mac II or SE30. The most recent version, version
 5.1, is equivalent to English Mac System 5.1, except it does nt support
 multifinder. You can buy it from

           Apple Programmers and Developers Association
           (800)282-1010

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Greetings,

        Just a few hours after I posted my survey for Mac Chinese
Software, I get a number of requests for my other parts of the survey,
which I will post in this and the next article. Those who have seen it
please bear it with me. Thanks.

        ** an important correction **
        The number of APDA is 1-800-282 APDA, the number I put
        in my last posting was wrong. Sorry for the inconvenience.


[the survey below was written for a newsletter for Chinese students at
Yale about two years ago. With that in mind when you read so that you
can tolerate some of the wordings.]

-- Kang Sun
==================


                A SURVEY ON CHINESE WORD PROCESSORS

                                Kang Sun

        I believe this topic is of interest to many of our readers.
Although I cannot claim that I am an expert in this subject, but I
give it a try.  My survey only covers the softwares that I have or
heard of. This by no way means a complete survey. This survey is
presented in two parts.

Part 1. For the IBM PCs (revised on 7/3/90)

        (A) Lian2 Xiang3 Han4 Zi4 (LXHZ). Word by word, it can be
translated as "Connective Thinking Chinese Characters". A better translation
might be  "Intelligent Chinese Characters" or something close to it. LXHZ,
to my taste, has the best way of HanZi key-in and the most beautiful
character fonts. Among many ways of character key-in, I like the PinYin
mode with Lian2 Xiang3. One type in the Pin1 Yin1 for the character, LXHZ
will prompt you all the characters that match the Pin Yin. After one makes
his choice, LXHZ prompt another list of characters that can be used form a
word with the most recently chosen characters. More than 50% of the time,
the character one wants next will be in the list, in which case one simply
type a digit to choose it. Imagine one writes an essay by  hitting number
keys almost all the time. LXHZ also updates its dictionary from time to
time, to put the most often or the most recently used characters appear in
front of the list. One can also combine several characters to form a word.

        LXHZ is produced in Mainland China, and hence uses the simplified
characters. It is designed as "a Chinese Character System" above the normal
DOS operating system. To use it, one first boot a PC with the normal DOS;
then start LXHZ, which will install the Chinese characters into the RAM and
switch the mode of input to Chinese. Then one can run an application
programs. The available programs include WordStar, Lotus1-2-3 and DBASEIII.
So far, I only see the Chinese version of WordStar, though I have heard a
version of Chinese DBASEIII floating around on campus.

        The dark side of LXHZ is that it does not allow one to expand the
character set, which contain the first two character lists of China's
National Standard. And, the version I had a hand on is very un-reliable. When
a fellow student returned to China in 1988, I asked him to keep
one of his eyes on the newer versions of LXHZ, he returned with the sad
news that "LXHZ is now very popular in China. However, they are all
manufactured into hardware chips. One has to buy a board for it."

        (B) Duke Chinese Typist (DTP). A under-developing word-processing
program for Chinese and English. It allows one to enter Chinese characters
by typing them in whole words and phrases, as well as one- by-one, in
pinyin romanization with or without tones, then pressing one of several
functionally-differentiated encode keys. It has most  basic word-processing
functions that can be invoked in a way very similar to that of EMCAS, a
very popular public domain text editor for the main frames. As a matter of
fact, DTP uses MicroEmacs as a template for development. DTP supports both
complex and simplified Chinese characters, Pin Yin entry, and works on XT,
AT, and PS2. Files can be printed out on standard IBM ProPrinter. The fonts
are far from publishing quality, but is readable. I does use tone (1,2,3,4)
and and entry of words to speed up inputs, which is the part I like a lot.
The The product is very inexpensive. For a  registration fee of $25.00, you
not only receive the up to date version of the program in two floppies, you
are also qualified for  upgrades in the future. Those who are interested
can contact

             Duke Chinese Typist
             Asian/Pacific Studies Institute
             2111 Campus Drive
             Duke University
             Durham, NC 27706 USA       Tel. (919) 684-6104

        (C) Tian1 Ma3 (Sky Horse). An very expensive one developed in the
United States. It is purchased and distributed in chip and hence has the
most efficient way of copy-protection. I heard that it supports multiple
mode of inputs and large vocabulary. Apparently I don't have enough first
hand knowledge to say anything more, but I can help to find out more
information on it there is enough interests. (For detail, see Part III)

        (D) Others. There are quite a few other Chinese Word Processors,
such as ChinaStar, CCDOS+WordStar. The information I have shows that
ChinaStar is a quite good one. It even supports LaserPrinter. However,
since it is so well copy-protected, I never had a chance to lay my hands on
it. The versions of CCDOS (Chinese Character DOS) I have seen are all
obsolete and not runnable on IBM's Enhanced Graphics Adaptors.

(* since the this survey was done, at least two softwares have come to my
 attention: BYX and Ch-Series. BYX is about to come out in July with a very
 reasonable price and well-expected performace. Ch-Series is a huge Chinese
 character typesetting system by Dr. Wang JingBai, which include a Chinese TeX
 and a Chinese WSTroff. I have had some success working with the UNIX version
of Ch-Series, but have had never tried the PC version, though. Recently these
 two team have joined their efforts and hopefully the new release will be good.
-- KS, 7/3/90)

        I hope the above materials are helpful for some of you. If you need
further information, feel free to contact me.

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The survey below was written for a newsletter for Chinese students at
Yale about two years ago.

This part was written by a reader of our newsletter. With that in mind
when you read so that you can tolerate some of the wordings.


-- Kang Sun

================================

                A SURVEY ON CHINESE WORD PROCESSORS

Part III: On Tian Ma.

                                                -- Yu XiaoBo
Dear Eidtor-in-chief,

     I hope you like this new way of addressing.  You could use my
letter or part thereof in a new column in your SR Newsletter: Letters
to the Editor (Do you mind if I drop the words "In-Chief"?).

      First of all, I would like to say how much I liked yours
Newsletters (I think all "Letters to the Editor" begin like this;
otherwise, my letter will be dragged into the Trash Can if you have a
good mouse to help you).

      As I happen to be one of those "valued customers" who have made
a wise investment (according to Tianma Dealer) in the Chinese word
processor "Tianma", I would like to add a few comments about this
package.

      1.  The current version is known as Tianma II, developed by
International Geosystems Corporation in Vancouver (originally in
cooperation with the Ministry of Minerology of PRC).  The current
price is $695.00, available from:

               Pacific Rim Connections
               3030 Atwater Drive
               Burlingame
               CA 94010

      2.  Except for the high price and the fact that it is a physical
ROM board (Don't even ask the question of "copy-protected" or not!), I
like Tianma better than LXHZ and the Duke package (please excuse me
for showing a bit of consumer or user affiliation).  I think the major
considerations should be one's specific needs, which I will explain
below.

      3. In terms of an "information storage and retrieval system",
Tianma has a unique inputting method, i.e., by Hanyu Pinyin or by
"Guoyu Zhuyin Fuhao" (the former for mainland users and the latter for
Taiwan users).  Other word processors with Pinyin or other spelling
input requires the user to choose from many homonyms.  For instance,
if you type "ai", the screen give you all the homonyms to choose from
(ai1, ai2, ai3, ai4 with all their dittos).  Even with those that
limit the number of homonyms by using additional tone markers (such as
the Duke package), the homonyms are too many for my patience.  It
seems to break up the train of thought by choosing numbers while I am
thinking in Chinese or English.  Maybe real mathematicians have a
different feeling here!)  With Tianma, I type in Pinyin using "word"
as a unit, for instance, "pingguo" for apple.  Homonyms of words are
rare, so far I have run into a few, such as "lianxi" for exercise or
connection, "juzi" for sentence or orange; "youyong" for useful or
swimming.  Remember, with Tianma, I only type in Pinyin without tones,
and my train of thought corresponds to the way that I use the language
in writing and speaking.  Other input methods (by Lianxiang with
numbers, by Pinyin plus tones with numbers, by codes for radicals and
graphic components of the character) seem less "natural" to me.  Of
course, for those who don't like Pinyin or "Guoyu Zhuyin Fuhao
Bo-po-mo-fo", it is a different story.

      4.  After I put in my text in Pinyin (or Guoyu Zhuyin Fuhao),
Tianma converts it into simplified or nonsimplified characters,
depending on which button I push. The fonts for both versions are
really good, I would say better for LXHZ, and incomparably much much
superior to the Duke font.  In terms of the quality of the font,
Tianma is presently only inferior to the newest Readypage (a Chinese
desktop publishing package, worth $2000 to $3000, depending on number
of fonts and other configurations). Currently, Brushwriter 2 (with
both IBM and Mac versions) also has a really good font, but no better
than Tianma.  Tianma can use 9 pin, 24 pin or laser printers.  Tianma
comes with a buil-in ROM dictionary containing "thousands" of words in
personal and business corresponding, enough to cover everyday usage.
Tianma has a user dictionary that one builds up as one uses the
package, one can also draw or modify existing characters.  The more
one uses Tianma, the more one builds up the user dictionary, and the
more convenient one find it to be (You can get a negative comment by
replacing the word "more" with "less"!)

     5.  To me, as an information retrieval system, the advantage of
Tianma is that we can store our "raw" texts in Pinyin form, either as
ASCII file or as one of the major wordprocessor file, such as
WordPerfect or Word Star. In this way, such text can be imported to
other programs such as Notebook or Dbase.  Tianma is alleged to be
compatible with PRC programs such as CCDbase, CCLotus, and CCWordstar,
though LXHZ probably can also do this (I don't know for sure.)
Sometimes I type out some thing in Pinyin when I can't sit down at my
computer with the Tianma card.  I can do this in WordPerfect or Word
Star, then I import the Pinyin text into Tianma and Tianma gives me
the character version while I still keep the original Pinyin as text
file for potential other uses.  This seems unique with Tianma among
all the Chinese word processors.  (Of course, I have to do some or
even more than "some" editing, because the computer may give me the
wrong conversion because of limited homonyms or it may leave some
Pinyin words unconverted, because my existing dictionary does not have
that words or because I made a typo in Pinyin.

     6.  Tianma seems a little slow when handling long text in
characters, but I believe so are other Chinese word processors.
Tianma has good scren editing features and the company seems devoted
to frequent upgrading (though this may cost you more money: Tianma II
involves an additional $95.00 for upgrading from Tianma (I)).

     7.  Again, the drawback of Tianma is the high price and the
impossibility of free sharing.  Other programs developed in PRC or
Taiwan do not provide the "continuous train of thought" as the users
input the material. Here lies a big differece in design philosophy and
in "value" judgement.  In China, few scientists (social or natural)
are actualling typing out their own work while developing their own
thought.  When they solidify the draft (the manuscript), they want it
typed out, and professional typist or secretary would do the typing.
For such typists, they don't care about "continuous train of thought",
they finished their job "character by character", they can learn
special input coding method and can acquire the habit of using these
very skillfully, just as the old Chinese telegraphic code typist.  For
scientists (natural or "un-natural" scientists), they can't afford
this "broken train of thought", if they want to think efficiently
while typing out their draft material.  They could learn the special
code input, maybe better than the typists, but they don't want to type
"character by character" while thinking about yesterday's movies or
their future apartment which is still in the air!

       8.  Coming back to the U.S., we type our theses or papers in
English while thinking and working on the daft.  It would be fun to
use one of these Chinese wordprocessors, for fun,for better printing
quality, for writing home more conviniently or to impress some one who
may be special..., but how much has your word processor helped you
store up and retrieve useful information?  Have you ever experienced
the fun of developing your thought while constantly updating your
manuscript (as you must have done with your English word processor)?
I may have been too harsh or too much biased, but there is a real
difference in what do we expect from our word processors.  I tend to
feel uneasy when Renmin Ribao applaud so many "inputting" methods, and
it seems that with a surplus supply of typists and secretaries in PRC,
the scientist's needs in "typing while thinking" are being ignored!
How many companies in the U.S. target students and professors for word
processor markets! And how unlikely administratives in PRC (cadres
with their trusted secretaries) will make market decisions with
scientists and academic people in mind! Intellectuals with lower and
lower real income can't afford to buy books to their hearts' content,
how long it will take for foreign investors in China to think of
intellectuals as their potential customers!  Let's wait and keep
living in hope.

                                                Yours hopefully

                                            XY (Sic! No "Z" after XY)

==========================================

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From:         yjj@SIRIUS.CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU
Subject:      Chinese Press Typeset System

Chinese Press Typeset System (CPTS) is developed by Chenqing Cheng, at
cncst3@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Chunqing N. Cheng)

I only used it less than two hours and read less than eight pages
of the mannual.  I can only offer my crude first impression here.

CPTS is script based.  The functions may not be rich and far from
anything like TeX.  But it fills in the gap that a lot of Chinese
students, who are using low end packages, like Byx, and wish to
have HP laser printer output.  In some sense it provide a HP
laser printer driver for those low end packages like BYX, Duke
system and other easy and cheap to get systems.  It is not a editor
itself.

You type CPTS to run it.  It prompt you a list of options:
file name (to be printed)
simplified characters or traditional charaters
...


I'm not sure CPTS can become a powerful package in the future, but
I can point out two immediate improvement that can be done.

1) It would be better if the Simplified Character<->Traditional
character conversion can be interactive.

2) I hope the program offers a choice to exit if users decide not
to print any file.

I compiled some information about CPTS below from  what the author
posted on SCC
==========================================================

Current CPTS only supports HP Laserjet series printers and their compatibles.

CPTS has five different forms:
gemini yjj(7)> cat word
Date:         Sun, 21 Jan 90 18:15:07 EST
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From:         yjj@SIRIUS.CTR.COLUMBIA.EDU
Subject:      Chinese Press Typeset System

Chinese Press Typeset System (CPTS) is developed by Chenqing Cheng, at
cncst3@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Chunqing N. Cheng)

I only used it less than two hours and read less than eight pages
of the mannual.  I can only offer my crude first impression here.

CPTS is script based.  The functions may not be rich and far from
anything like TeX.  But it fills in the gap that a lot of Chinese
students, who are using low end packages, like Byx, and wish to
have HP laser printer output.  In some sense it provide a HP
laser printer driver for those low end packages like BYX, Duke
system and other easy and cheap to get systems.  It is not a editor
itself.

You type CPTS to run it.  It prompt you a list of options:
file name (to be printed)
simplified characters or traditional charaters
...


I'm not sure CPTS can become a powerful package in the future, but
I can point out two immediate improvement that can be done.

1) It would be better if the Simplified Character<->Traditional
character conversion can be interactive.

2) I hope the program offers a choice to exit if users decide not
to print any file.

I compiled some information about CPTS below from  what the author
posted on SCC
==========================================================

Current CPTS only supports HP Laserjet series printers and their compatibles.

CPTS has five different forms:

        A:   For China Mainland's Guobiao system (CCDOS)
        B:   For Taiwan basic Big-5 system (KC500)
        C:   For Taiwan's full Big-5 system (TWIN, ET, etc.)
        D:   Support both A & B
        E:   Support both A & C (whole set)


Libraries are big problems in developing and shaping the program.
As the situation stands right now, I can provide library for (A).
Library for (A) is based on the library by Institute of Software,
Academia Sinica with some modifications (This is allowed by I.S.A.S.
copyright notice).

Libraries for (B) and (C) will be provided by users' own Chinese
editors.  In case the libraries are protected, here I can tell you
a general rule to get rid of protection.  Since you use it for
your own purpose, it usually will not violate the copyright law
(please check your software for this).

CPTS does not contain editor, but you can get CCDOS editor Byx for
$10.00 and KC500 editor for about $20.00(?) (Write my own editor?
Again, Chinese fonts are problems; besides I do not have time as then
moment.) If you do not have a Chinese
editor, but like to make short articles in Chinese, you can
use any English editor to input internal codes which can be
looked up in tables which CPTS provides.

As a shareware, the following donation is required for the cost of
developing CPTS:

        Forms           Basic donatin   Shipping

        A               $20.00          $5.00
        B               $20.00          $5.00
        C               $25.00          $5.00
        D               $30.00          $5.00
        E               $40.00          $5.00
        printed manual  $5.00           $2.00


CPTS requires the following hardware:

                IBM XT/AT/PS2 or compatible PC
                             &
         HP laserjet series printers or compatibles

Some techinical data follows:

1:  Computer RAM:  The CPTS can be run on  256K RAM.  But it will be slow.
     If you have 640K RAM, it is fast.  More RAM requires less access to disks.
     But in any case, CPTS program plus data will be too large to put into RAM
     in this version of CPTS. (No effort is made to use extended RAM now)

2:  Printer RAM: basic configuration of 512K RAM of HP printers or compatibles
    are enough for normal operation.  If you really like to manipulate with
    CPTS to include graphics, to change options from place to place,
    you may need more RAM to be installed into your printers. CPTS has no
    knowledge about your printer's RAM.  But it will use all printer's RAM
    in cases needed.

3:  Hard disk is generaly recommended although CPTS can be managed to run
    on high density disks.

4:  Current CPTS uses 24x24 bit-mapped fonts.  But it can be customized if your
    fonts are different.

5.  CPTS has four different basic sizes for each Chinese character, and based
    on each basic size, you can enlarge freely both in horizontal and/or
    vertical direction(s).

6.  CPTS can rotate Chinese characters, make Chinese character bold.  I used to
    try make it as italics, but I was told italics font is available somewhere.
    So current CPTS italics option does not work.

7.  CPTS has two kinds of commands in general:
      (1) inline commands and (2) dot commands.

    in-line commands are used to change options from character to character
    but "dot command" change options from paragraph to paragraph.
    total commands in both forms are about 100.

8.  CPTS can generate multi-column text, read in graphics in proper format,
    add frames, add background, and put text anywhere in the paper if you
    want this to be done.

9.   CPTS can include text files to be printed, and also can accept Mainland
   and Taiwan's Big-5 standard at the very same file.  Thus, you can write
   a control file which contains enumerous files in mixture of two standards,
   CPTS will print continously.

10.   CPTS can print the file out as both complex forms or simplified
     character forms regardless which standards you are using.

     As mainland took step to simplified Chinese characters, there were
     about 2350 complex characters are simplified.  I just finished
     about 2000 characters.  I'm still working on the rest of characters
     but it takes time. So far, in most cases, it is hardly notice that
     no all characters are changed.

11.  Since CPTS uses minimum configuration of a computer and printers,
     the English characters only has two size, normal or compressed.
     (also not, in HP printers, compressed English character does not
     have bold option, though most compatibles do have).

12.  CPTS typesets Chinese characters for given length, regardles the sizes
     and numbers of Chinese charaters the line has.  If only one Chinese
     character is to be typesetted, it will be centered.

13.  CPTS in table environment will connect the lines as solid line.

14.  CPTS has several underline styles for underlining Chinese character

15.  CPTS has superscripts and underscripts.  Since CPTS allows you go
    anywhere on the paper you could write equations as well.

16.  You can use CPTS to generate BAR graphs easily.

17.  CPTS can print both horizontally and vertically.


Since I put CPTS as a shareware, thus, any comments and suggestions are
welcome.  Also, CPTS can be modified for particular magazine style upon
users's request.  My purpose is to make Chinese publication affordable
and flexible.  Some people asked about where they can get "Byx", here
is the address:

   Mr. YAN, Yong-xin
   7510 Brompton
   Apartment 628
   Houston, TX 77025
   (713) 663-2170 (office)
   (713) 661-5866 (home)
From:         Harlan Seyfer <hks@MYERS.CRAY.COM>
Subject:      Chinese Wordprocessors
From:         "J.B. Wang" <JWANG@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      dvi->ps, TianMa and Desktop publishing


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Date:         Wed, 24 Jan 90 13:14:24 CST
Reply-To:     Chinese Computing Network <CCNET-L@UGA>
Sender:       Chinese Computing Network <CCNET-L@UGA>
From:         Harlan Seyfer <hks@MYERS.CRAY.COM>
Subject:      Chinese Wordprocessors

China Books & Periodicals (2929 24th Street, San Francisco, CA, 94110;
phone (415) 282-2994) sells several Chinese Language Word Processors.
Since I have no connection with CB&P, other than possessing a copy of
their catalog, all the information here is tentative.
Does anyone have experience with any of these items?

name of software / hardware requirements / cost

1. TianMa II+ / IBM & compatibles, graphics card / $695
2. ReadyPage / IBM & compatibles, hard disk, graphics card / $595
3. BrushWriter 4 / Mac 512K, 2 floopies or hard drive || IBM & compatibles,
      graphics card / $599 (Mac), $750 (IBM) (PS/2 version available)
4. MisHu 2.0 / Mac 512K, 2 floopies or hard drive / $89 ($59 with student id)
5. PX Magic Typist / IBM & compatibles / $99
6. PX Chinese Magic Typist For TianMa II / IBM & compatibles / $199
7. Dr Kompac's Computerized Chinese-English English-Chinese Dictionary,
      version 2.0 / IBM & compatibles, hard disk, graphics card / $89

Also shown in the catalog with little description:
1.  FeiMa / PS/2 || Mac / no price given
2.  Rapid Voice Authoring System / IBM / $300

They also mention 2 programs for learning Chinese:
1. ChinEase / IBM & compatibles, graphics card / $49.95
2. Chinese-English Hypercard Flashcards / Mac Plus and above / $99.95
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Date:         Sun, 25 Feb 90 21:05:00 EST
Reply-To:     "J.B. Wang" <JWANG@PITTVMS>
Sender:       Chinese Computing Network <CCNET-L@UGA>
From:         "J.B. Wang" <JWANG@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      dvi->ps, TianMa and Desktop publishing

Here are a couple of announcements and comments related to
Chinese computing:

        1. An alternative dvi2ps
        2. dvialw or dvips
        3. impression of TianMa
        4. remarks on Chinese/English/Japanese Desktop publishing


3. Impression of TianMa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On (2/22), Yuan Jiang (one of ccnet organizer) and I spent one
afternoon in U of Columbia's east asian library to evaluate TianMa II plus
operated by an American librarian who knows Chinese better than most of
Chinese of our age. The original idea was to compare it with Chtext in
ch-series I developed. It is needless to say that TianMa is by far the
best Chinese inputter on PC and MAC level. You just simply keep typing in
PinYin and Chinese characters automatically translated according to
context (using AI) if it is a single character or phrase dictionary if
it is a phrase (like women --> not to confuse with ladies). The characters
thus translated may not be right. For instance, if you type in a sentence
of 20 PinYin, before you finish typing PinYin, maybe 12 are already
translated into Chinese characters, and after you press <Return>, all are
in Chinese characters. But among 20 Chinese characters, maybe 5 are not
what you want, and you can move cursor to a character when a string of
characters with same PinYin appears for you to choose with cursor. By
the way, TianMa does not know 4 tunes as some of the materials distributed
by individuals including myself said.

TianMa supports both simplified characters and traditional ones, you can
start with either, and convert to another afterward. But since simplified
and traditional characters are not one-to-one mapping. There are problems
with converted files.

TianMa's formatting and output quality is not impressive at all. Only two-four
font sizes can be selected. Therefore, we will only consider TianMa as a
Chinese editor. It is too expensive though.

Yuan is very good at collecting Chinese computing system information, he
also has booklets on Singapore's brushpaint, which is considered to have
good font support. I looked at those things, the font size can vary
at discrete sizes from 12pt to 30 some points. Some of the font style are
good. Quality-wise speaking, however, those fonts are really not for
desktop or camera-ready publishing. ChTeX (all Chinese TeX, Chinese Scribe
and WStroff) scaleable Chinese SongTi from 24x24 or 48x48 bitmap fonts have
much much superior output quality than what I saw, and the sizes can be
scaled continuously. But, Yuan said he copies are fax ones. I thought
however, a fax copy of ChTeX output should have the same quality as the
original one unless there are 256-gray-shaded bitmap images.

The conclusion is that TianMa has very good inputing spead overally,
and AI can indeed be applied to Chinese inputing. ChText of ch-series
was designed for mainframe dummy terminal at the beginning, and hence
you can see max 5 characters at a time. You can continuously type in sentences
and press return to start picking process, and CiZu mode is better than
TianMa, tunes can be used with individual PinYin or radicals can be appended.
But no AI is used for the timebeing. Chtext can also translate a PinYin
file altogether, or translate a GB file into PinYin file. If AI is implemented,
ChText has very good potential.


=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 8 Mar 90 10:32:00 EST
Reply-To:     Indecision <M_CHEN@HVRFORD>
Sender:       Chinese Computing Network <CCNET-L@UGA>
From:         Indecision <M_CHEN@HVRFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Pinyin and Traditional characters word processing

     Some time ago I wrote to CCNET to find the names of programs
which would accept Pinyin input and put out traditional characters
and would be for IBM PC or compatable. What follows is a list/summary
of what I have found. I write from the perspective of a student (for I
was one only last year) and not of a school or organization.

To be included, the program must have:
     PinYin Input
     IBM PC or Compatable
     Traditional Character Output


Duke Chinese Typist ($25)
     Simplified/Traditional Ouput
     Mix Eng/Chinese
     Free Updates

        Duke Chinese Typist
        Asian/Pacific Studies Institute
        2111 Campus Drive, Durham, NC 27706


******
*     ReadyPage ($595)
*
*     BrushWriter ($699)
*
*     TianMa ($695)
******
     These programs are (to me) very expensive and if you are in the
market for a "slicker" program you should contact a dealer to learn
about their features in detail.  I'll talk about them only generally.
     ReadyPage and Brushwriter are really for publishing.  Their forte
is in their typsetting features.  Innumerable font sizes, nice styles,
etc..  TianMa's drawback (from one perspective) is in its relative
weakness in the font/output area.  However its strengths include a
learning feature where it learns which words you use the most and they
become the default.  (There are other nice features as well).
     ReadyPage, Brushwriter, and TianMa are all sold by Pacific Rim
Connections (415) 697-9439.  But may also be found elsewhere.


FeiMa-P ($649)
     needs VGA

     Wu Corp.
     (203) 677-1528


I know this is rather sketchy, but I hope it is helpful.  If anyone
knows of other programs with the above-listed characteristics,
please let me know!

Michael A. Chen
Haverford College
Department of Academic Computing
M_Chen@Hvrford.bitnet
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 >From:         "Daniel D. L." <C0199@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
 >Subject:      Chinese wordprocessor
 >To:           "Chen-Hua Lee, St. John's Univ. NY" <CHENL@SJUVM.BITNET>
 >
 >I have a Chinese Wordstar supported by UCDOS. It works well but
 >cannot support laserprinter. Pity :-0. Does anyone have a Chinese
 >wordprocessor that supports laserprinter?
 >
 >Daniel


 Daniel:

      I am in the middle of doing research regarding Chinese /Japanese
 wordprocessors, and happen to know that the Chinese package named
 "ETEN FLYING SAUCER NO. 4", runs under DOS 3.3 or higher, can be used
 together with "JETMATE III" - package contains laser drivers and fonts
 - to print on HP LasetJet II or III.  In addition, the above two can
 further work along with another postcript-like fonts package
 "GOLDEN BUTTERFLY" to obtain the fanciest quality output.


      Hope the above to be helpful.  If I can be of further assistance,
 feel free to contact me please.


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 Phone  ==> (718) 990-6790           |        Software Specialist
 Fax    ==> (718) 380-0339           |        Academic Computing Services
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                                     |        St. John's University
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                                     |
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From sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!sarah!sarah.albany.edu!rk7151 Tue Mar  5 11:25:09 EST 1991
Article: 25883 of soc.culture.china
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From: rk7151@csc.albany.edu (KWOK RAYMOND Y)
Subject: Re: Chinese Software--An Inquiry
In-Reply-To: ycy1@quads.uchicago.edu's message of 2 Mar 91 22:06:14 GMT
Message-ID: <RK7151.91Mar4111738@sarah.albany.edu>
Sender: rk7151@sarah.albany.edu (KWOK RAYMOND Y)
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
References: <1991Mar2.220614.10883@midway.uchicago.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: 4 Mar 91 11:17:38
Status: RO

There is now a lot of China/Taiwan/Hong Kong Chinese software that run on
VGA and extended EGA (supporting 640*480 resolution).
One common Chinese software from Taiwan in Hong Kong is called E Tian,
the latest version support VGA. I cannot recall if Guo Kiu support VGA
or not, it does support some extended EGA.
The problem of normal EGA is the resolution 640*350 cannot support 16x16
font size of 25 lines.
Best Regards,
Raymond Kwok
04-Mar-1991.


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From: Chen-Hua Lee <CHENL%SJUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Chinese/apanese Wordprocessor
To: Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@UGA>
Status: RO

Hello Netters:

     I am in the middle of doing research regarding Chinese and Japanese wordpro
packages for PC's.  Does any one know the answers to the following questions ?

         HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS:
          Random Access Memory
          As I have found, some Chinese wordprocessors are RAM-consuming, it tak
          usually around 400 to 500 K.  If this is the case, would they support
          expanded memory (LIM 4.0) or extended memory ?

          Hard disk Space
          How many megabytes are usually needed ?

          Graphics Adapter card
          Do they still require monochrome Hercules card or they now support EGA
          VGA or even Super VGA ?

          Printing features
          How many typefaces (i.e. Kai, Lih, standard pressing, Hiragana, Kanji.
          are available ? Are fonts scalable ? What is the maximum points (size)
          Are HP LaserJet II, III and IBM PS/2 PCs supported ?
          Can graphics be incorporated into text ? Does it support sideway print

          Creativity
          Can new characters be added to the existing set ?

         NETWORK COMPATIBILITY
          Are they network compatible for Novell 286/386 LAN ? or people should
          purchase the network versions sold separately ?

          SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS:
          DOS 3.3 or later version ?

          AVAILABILITY
          Are there any Japanese wordprocessor dealer in New York City ?



     Any information or comments are appreciated.  Please direct your response t
bitnet address CHENL@SJUVM and I will share the summary by posting it to the lis
Many thanks.

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     Phone   : (718) 990-6790        |        Software Specialist
     Fax     : (718) 380-0339        |        Academic Computing Services
                                     |        University Computer Center
                                     |        St. John's University
                                     |        Jamaica, NY  11439
                                     |
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From sol.ctr.columbia.edu!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sunaus.oz!metro!usage.csd.unsw.oz.au!hongbo Sat Jul  6 15:10:00 EDT 1991
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From: hongbo@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au (Hongbo Ni)
Newsgroups: comp.editors,aus.culture.china,soc.culture.china,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: NJSTAR - Chinese Editor with LianXiang for IBM PC
Keywords: Chinese, Editor, NJSTAR.
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Date: 4 Jul 91 00:09:25 GMT
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Organization: Computing Services Dept, UNSW, Australia
Lines: 35
Status: RO


Software Release Announcement: NJSTAR ver 1.00

    NJSTAR is a Chinese Editor. It runs on IBM PC with EGA/VGA monitor.
    NJSTAR works without CCDOS, and reads and writes files in GB standard.
    It is compatible with all other CCDOS softwares.

Feathers:
    (1). Support PinYin, GuoBiao and QuWeiMa input.
    (2). Efficient Chinese Input with LianXiang function.
    (3). Dynamic PinYin table and LianXiang Table Sorting/Ordering.
    (4). LianXiang Table can be expended with more words (up to 65Kb)
    (5). Configurable Key strokes and Help screen.
    (6). Screen display colors are also configurable.
    (7). Many other options can be configured.
    (8). Support EGA 19 lines and VGA 25 Lines display, Fast update.
    (9). Search and replace functions.
   (10). Block Mark, Move, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undelete.
   (11). Line Delete and undelete.
   (12). Support both FanTiZi and JianTiZi.
   (13). Still can load first 65k if file size is larger then 65k.

The shareware version of NJSTAR is now available via anonymous FTP from
following archives:

    USA:       ahkcus.org              src/pc/NJSTAR/njstar10.zip
    Australia: usage.csd.unsw.oz.au    tmp/njstar10.zip

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Software Release Announcement: NJSTAR ver 1.00

    NJSTAR is a Chinese Editor. It runs on IBM PC with EGA/VGA monitor.
    NJSTAR works without CCDOS, and reads and writes files in GB standard.
    It is compatible with all other CCDOS softwares.

Feathers:
    (1). Support PinYin, GuoBiao and QuWeiMa input.
    (2). Efficient Chinese Input with LianXiang function.
    (3). Dynamic PinYin table and LianXiang Table Sorting/Ordering.
    (4). LianXiang Table can be expended with more words (up to 65Kb)
    (5). Configurable Key strokes and Help screen.
    (6). Screen display colors are also configurable.
    (7). Many other options can be configured.
    (8). Support EGA 19 lines and VGA 25 Lines display, Fast update.
    (9). Search and replace functions.
   (10). Block Mark, Move, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undelete.
   (11). Line Delete and undelete.
   (12). Support both FanTiZi and JianTiZi.
   (13). Still can load first 65k if file size is larger then 65k.

The shareware version of NJSTAR is now available via anonymous FTP from
following archives:

    USA:       ahkcus.org              src/pc/NJSTAR/njstar10.zip
    Australia: usage.csd.unsw.oz.au    tmp/njstar10.zip

Hongbo.
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From sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Sat Nov 17 13:45:00 EST 1990
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From: ao-b@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Benjamin Ao)
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Subject: Chinese Word-Processor
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   CWP -- A Fast, Easy and Affordable Chinese Word-Processor
 
   **********************************************************
   *   If your resources are limited and all you have is    *
   *   an IBM-XT/AT compatible and a humble 9-pin printer   *
   *   and yet you want to use a Chinese word-processor     *
   *   nearly as convenient as say Word Perfect but have    *
   *   been fed up by the cumbersomeness of the ones you    *
   *   own or been scared away by the prices of others,     *
   *   then this is definitely your choice.                 *
   **********************************************************
 
     A new Chinese word-processor, CWP, has been created for IBM-
PC's or PC compatibles. It is a purely applicational program and
therefore does not affect your computer system after execution.
 
     The main features of CWP are as follows:
 
1.   CWP supports the 6763 characters of the Mainland Chinese
standard. It uses a character coding scheme which is based on 
standard pinyin and is easy to learn. 

2.   CWP allows you to type no more than 3.5 purely alphabetic 
keystrokes per character in a running text. Everything else being 
equal, the fewer keystrokes necessary, and the less scattered the 
keystrokes, the faster the typing speed.

3.   CWP allows you to blind-type characters. The more you use
it, the more characters you can type at the top of your typing 
speed without being slowed down by searching for the correct 
homonym on the screen.
 
4.   CWP can save or retrieve a text in either binary or ASCII
format. In the ASCII format, a text may be saved or retrieved in
either Guobiao code or CWP pinyin code. The CWP pinyin code is 
generally shorter than the Guobiao code. And being readable, it 
is an ideal medium for telecommunication. Following is a sample 
of the same text in Guobiao code and in CWP pinyin code:
 
Guobiao:	C0EBC0EBD4ADC9CFB2DDA3ACD2BBCBEAD2BBBFDDC8D9A1A3|
		D2B0BBF0C9D5B2BBBEA1A3ACB4BAB7E7B4B5D3D6C9FAA1A3|
 
CWP pinyin:	lix lix yuanxb sag caov, i sui i kuh rogxl.|
		yevd hov saoh bu jinl, cunhj fegh cuih you segh.|

5.   CWP provides on-line help. It supports most standard text
editing functions, including move to head/end of line/page/text,
block move/copy/delete, forward/backward search, search-and-
replace with/without confirm, insert, delete, typeover, etc.
 
6.   CWP can be used in either the Chinese mode or the English
mode or a mixture of the two. It supports such functions as word-
wrapping at the end of a line, or justified spacing in printing.
 
7.   CWP can print the text in one of nine fonts differing in
size, shape or density on a 9-pin or 24-pin dot-matrix printer. 
The line spacing and page numbering functions are also adjustable.
 
8.   CWP can be used on any IBM-PC or PC compatible computer
equipped with a CGA, EGA, VGA, Hercules, ATT, IBM8514 or PC3270 
graphics card. It requires 640K RAM and a hard drive.
 
     The major limitations of CWP are the following:
 
1.   CWP does not support traditional character (fantizi) fonts.
     It does not support underlining, superscript, subscript
     and italics, either.
 
2.   CWP does not support laser printers or desk-jet printers.
 
3.   CWP does not support the tab key. It does not support such
functions as flush center/right, adjust top/bottom/left/right
margins, create and edit headers/footers/footnotes/endnotes,
column operations, etc. Once the text format, such as fonts,
linespacing, page numbering etc, is set, it cannot be changed
amidst the text.
 
4.   CWP does not allow you to create your own characters. And
it does not have line-drawing functions. Most of the scientific
symbols or other "funny" characters it supports are those 
included in the ASCII character set, which can be retrieved by 
simultaneously holding down the Alt key and typing the ASCII 
code on the Num-pad.

5.   CWP does not have a DOS Shell function that allows you to
temporarily go to the DOS system and then return to your word 
processing job. It does not allow you to list directories from
within the program, either.

6.   CWP does not have a word-base which allows you to input 
several characters at a time.

     All these limitations will be lifted in future versions.
 
     CWP version 1.0 is now available at $20.00 each. If you
are interested in buying one, please send your check or money 
order to the address at the end of this message. You will 
receive two 5.25" floppy disks, along with instructions for 
installation.

     Should there be any problems that make the program unusable,
please notify the author. If they are caused by errors in the
program, you will receive an update of the program void of the
errors and free of charge. Suggestions for improvement are always
welcome. Thank you! 

				Benjamin Ao
				Department of Linguistics
				The Ohio State University
				Columbus, Ohio 43210-1229

				(ao-b@cis.ohio-state.edu
				 614-293-9417)


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I have a question about CWP. In the readme file, the author says it
supports both 9-pin and 24-pin printers.  When I tried to print
Chinese text with a 24 pin printer, I got exactly the same output no
matter what I choose at the printer option (0: 9 pin; 1: 24 pin).  The
outputs with any other CCDOS compatible print drivers are much better
than this one.

My question is:  Is this normal or I missed some files?  Or is it the
limit of the shareware version?  Thanks for your help.
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     Some time ago I wrote to CCNET to find the names of programs
which would accept Pinyin input and put out traditional characters
and would be for IBM PC or compatable. What follows is a list/summary
of what I have found. I write from the perspective of a student (for I
was one only last year) and not of a school or organization.

To be included, the program must have:
     PinYin Input
     IBM PC or Compatable
     Traditional Character Output


Duke Chinese Typist ($25)
     Simplified/Traditional Ouput
     Mix Eng/Chinese
     Free Updates

        Duke Chinese Typist
        Asian/Pacific Studies Institute
        2111 Campus Drive, Durham, NC 27706


******
*     ReadyPage ($595)
*
*     BrushWriter ($699)
*
*     TianMa ($695)
******
     These programs are (to me) very expensive and if you are in the
market for a "slicker" program you should contact a dealer to learn
about their features in detail.  I'll talk about them only generally.
     ReadyPage and Brushwriter are really for publishing.  Their forte
is in their typsetting features.  Innumerable font sizes, nice styles,
etc..  TianMa's drawback (from one perspective) is in its relative
weakness in the font/output area.  However its strengths include a
learning feature where it learns which words you use the most and they
become the default.  (There are other nice features as well).
     ReadyPage, Brushwriter, and TianMa are all sold by Pacific Rim
Connections (415) 697-9439.  But may also be found elsewhere.


FeiMa-P ($649)
     needs VGA

     Wu Corp.
     (203) 677-1528


I know this is rather sketchy, but I hope it is helpful.  If anyone
knows of other programs with the above-listed characteristics,
please let me know!

Michael A. Chen
Haverford College
Department of Academic Computing
M_Chen@Hvrford.bitnet

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                  NJSTAR - A Chinese Editor Version 1.20

            Copyright (C) Hongbo Ni 1991. All Rights Reserved.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.                NEW FEATURES IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1)  Intelligent PinYin LianXiang: For some Chinese Chars, the LianXiang lists
     are TOO long, you need to press '>' few times before getting what you want.
     In Ver1.2, Instead of pressing '>', Just typing the PinYin of wanted char,
     the wanted char will be displayed on the top of the list. If the PinYin
     match a multiword LianXiang, then the multiword will be selected. It can
     LianXiang back to two Chinese characters.

(2)  Able to Read from and Write to 'zW' and 'Hz' encoded files.
     Generate PCX file TOO.

(3)  Print to 9pin and 24pin EPSON Compatible Dot Matrix Printer within NJSTAR.
     Have continuous and manual feed modes. and necessary page formatting
 commands.

(4)  Powerful Macros allow user to assign a combination of available commands
     to one key. With conditional and unconditional Jump, it's more flexible.

(5)  Lines and characters deleted continuously by <DEL>, <BackSpace>,
     <DelLine>,<DelToBegLine> and <DelToEndLine> can be totally recovered.

(6)  Display directory list and free disk spaces within NJSTAR.

(7)  Editing multiple files by simply press <NextFile><F10> or<PrevFile><@F10>

(8)  Faster screen display and ASCII input.

(9)  <WordLeft> and <WordRight> now search for Chinese Punctuation.

(10) When Enter a filename or search string, Editing keys can be used.

(11) Maximum size of LianXiang Dic has been increased to 73K bytes.
     Maximum Len. of word which can be added into LXDIC has been increase to 40.

(12) Line and Col number are displayed, <GotoLine> goto specified Line.

(13) End of Line can be displayed to show where is the real end of the line.

(14)  When switch to next file, the marked block are stored for paste.

(15)  When Enter a PinYin without a Tune, the most commonly used chars are
      displayed at top, un-commonly used chars are displayed at end.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.                 NEW COMMANDS IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1)  <ToggleEOL><^F9> command for toggle the display of End of Line mark.

(2)  <LianXiang><@X> to LianXiang previous Chinese Char.

(3)  <FileStatus><^F1> to display current file size, no. of Chinese
     characters and no. of lines (Hard Line). the cursor line (hard) and
     Col are also displayed at bottom line

(4)  <GotoLine><^F6> to go a specific line (NOTE only ENTER('\n')
     is considered as a line, not the line displayed on the screen)
     Program will ask for line no., you can response one of the following:

              Line: 100   goto line 100.
              Line: +50   forward 50 lines.
              Line: -20   backup 50 lines.
              Line: 1     goto beginning of the file.
              Line: $     goto end of the file.

(5)  <RepeatCmd><^F11> -- repeat previous command for no. of times.

(6)  <WordCount><^F5>  -- Count specified string (Can be Chinese)

(7)  <MacroRec> <F11> -- Start/stop Macro Recording

(8)  <MacroExec><F12> -- Execute Recorded Macros

(9)  <Jump> <JTrue> <JFalse> <Pause> #nn(ASCII) $nn(Sleep) for NJCONFIG

(10) <ZwSaveFile><#F2> - Save Current File in zW Format

(11) <ZwDecode  ><#F7> - Decode the current File in zW format

(12) <ZwEditFile><#F8> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(13) <HzSaveFile><#F4> - Save Current File in zW Format

(14) <HzDecode  ><#F5> - Decode the current File in zW format

(15) <HzEditFile><#F6> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(16) <PcxSaveFile><#F3> - Create PCX files (one file per page)

(17) <PrevFile><@F10> - goto previous file

(18) <QuitAll> <^F3>  - Quit all the files in the Ring

(19) <ListDir> <@F1>  - display directory list, total files and free disk space.
      When Enter a file name at bottom line, <ListDir><@F1> & <QuickHelp><F1>
      will display a directory list based on the path name in the file name.

(20) <Print><^P> to print on 9pin/24pin dot matrix printer

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. Features of Version 1.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    (0). NEW -- Print to Postscript Printer, use any font you have.
    (1). Support PinYin, GuoBiao and QuWeiMa input.
    (2). Efficient Chinese Input with LianXiang function.
    (3). Dynamic PinYin table and LianXiang Table Sorting/Ordering.
    (4). LianXiang Table can be expended with more words (up to 65Kb)
    (5). Configurable Key strokes and Help screen.
    (6). Screen display colors are also configurable.
    (7). Many other options can be configured.
    (8). Support EGA 19 lines and VGA 25 Lines display, Fast update.
    (9). Search and replace functions.
   (10). Block Mark, Move, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undelete.
   (11). Line Delete and undelete.
   (12). Support both FanTiZi and JianTiZi.
   (13). Still can load first 65k if file size is larger then 65k.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Program Usage
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1).  NJSTAR [options] [filename, filename, ... filenames] [+linenum]

      All the argument are optional.
      options:
               -?/h -  help
               -e  --  use EGA 19 line display even VGA screen installed
               -v  --  no PinYin input and LianXiang (for RAM less then 512K)
 NEW  [        -d  --  Start a demonstration (Automatically display file)
  IN  [        -zW --  Edit zW encoded file, decode it after read.
Ver1.2[        -Hz --  Edit Hz encoded file, decode it after read.

      filename: any file you want to edit. DOS wide card * and ? can be used
      +linenum: start editing file on line [linenum]. $ == end of the file.
      examples:
                NJSTAR njstar.man +200 njstar +$
                NJSTAR *.doc *.txt
                NJSTAR -e njstar.doc
                NJSTAR -v *.tx?

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5. Hardware Requirement

   IBM PC Compatible Computer with EGA/VGA/SuperVGA monitor. Need at least
   512K free RAM to be full functional (Less then 512K will not be able to
   LianXiang).
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Registration Fee for Ver 1.2 is $39 US dollars Plus $10 Mail handling
Charge ($5 for local user).

For Users who are registered with Njstar Ver 1.02, the Update Fee is US$19
plus mail handling charge.


Please send your check or money order to:

          Hongbo NI
          10/21 Waratah Ave
          Randwick NSW 2031
          Australia

          Phone:   (02) 697 5527 (BH)   (02) 399 9876 (AH)
          E-mail:  hongbo@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au
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Sometime ago Weng from Sweden review TurboWriter for Macintosh, and his
conclusion is again it.  Today I tried it out, and I am shocked to find
out that it even does not use the ScriptManager, or at least follow the
rule of ScriptManager to check the character bytes of each character.
How can it be a Macintosh Chinese WP withoput such consideration? or
maybe I just missing something obvious?  What I did as a standard test
is use it to read HuaXiaWenZhai, and it even cannot handle the line breaking
properly:  obviously it does not use CharBytes() to in doing the line
breaking.

So it seems the standard word processor which following the Script Manager
is Nisus, or just use my humble QRead to read Hua Xia Wen Zhai. By the way,
QRead can also read zW code (or original called "HZ" code), except it
expect the enclosing characters are ~{ and ~}, rather than zW.  I will
add this in QRead and post a new version to ahkcus.org soon, so you can use
it to read HXWZ coded in zW code directly (without uudecoding).

		Huangxin Wang ~{Muh+vN~}, University of Pennsylvania

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Subject: NJSTAR has printing problem!
Keywords: I'd like to email, Author, regarding registration
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	The NJstar (North Star) Chinese word processor doesn't
	seem to handle printer Form Feed properly. I use
	a Diconix 150 plus (emulates Epson). When it finishes
	printing, it always stops half way in the page (not ejecting
	the page.) so I have to manually feed out the page on the
	printer. This is a really a nuisance.

	I'd like to register NJSTAR if the Author solves this problem.
	The program is nice, but the unregistered version is VERY
	NASTY in that it lets you do all editing as long as you wish
	and then tells you that you can not save it beyond 2K. I was
	trying out the program the other day and wrote a really long
	article but lost it all except the first few paragraphs. This
	limitation should have been mentioned in the READ.ME file or
	the program should've warned the writer he was approaching the limit.
	This should be in the ethics standards of all programmers. (No
	flames intended, please understand the frustration I had gone
	through lossing all my hard work, entering the article word
	by word.)

	To those who don't know about North Star (What does that J
	stand for?), it costs $39 plus $10 shipping from Australia.


	Joe


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                  NJSTAR - A Chinese Editor Version 1.20

            Copyright (C) Hongbo Ni 1991. All Rights Reserved.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.                NEW FEATURES IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1)  Intelligent PinYin LianXiang: For some Chinese Chars, the LianXiang lists
     are TOO long, you need to press '>' few times before getting what you want.
     In Ver1.2, Instead of pressing '>', Just typing the PinYin of wanted char,
     the wanted char will be displayed on the top of the list. If the PinYin
     match a multiword LianXiang, then the multiword will be selected. It can
     LianXiang back to two Chinese characters.

(2)  Able to Read from and Write to 'zW' and 'Hz' encoded files.
     Generate PCX file TOO.

(3)  Print to 9pin and 24pin EPSON Compatible Dot Matrix Printer within NJSTAR.
     Have continuous and manual feed modes. and necessary page formatting
 commands.

(4)  Powerful Macros allow user to assign a combination of available commands
     to one key. With conditional and unconditional Jump, it's more flexible.

(5)  Lines and characters deleted continuously by <DEL>, <BackSpace>,
     <DelLine>,<DelToBegLine> and <DelToEndLine> can be totally recovered.

(6)  Display directory list and free disk spaces within NJSTAR.

(7)  Editing multiple files by simply press <NextFile><F10> or<PrevFile><@F10>

(8)  Faster screen display and ASCII input.

(9)  <WordLeft> and <WordRight> now search for Chinese Punctuation.

(10) When Enter a filename or search string, Editing keys can be used.

(11) Maximum size of LianXiang Dic has been increased to 73K bytes.
     Maximum Len. of word which can be added into LXDIC has been increase to 40.

(12) Line and Col number are displayed, <GotoLine> goto specified Line.

(13) End of Line can be displayed to show where is the real end of the line.

(14)  When switch to next file, the marked block are stored for paste.

(15)  When Enter a PinYin without a Tune, the most commonly used chars are
      displayed at top, un-commonly used chars are displayed at end.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.                 NEW COMMANDS IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1)  <ToggleEOL><^F9> command for toggle the display of End of Line mark.

(2)  <LianXiang><@X> to LianXiang previous Chinese Char.

(3)  <FileStatus><^F1> to display current file size, no. of Chinese
     characters and no. of lines (Hard Line). the cursor line (hard) and
     Col are also displayed at bottom line

(4)  <GotoLine><^F6> to go a specific line (NOTE only ENTER('\n')
     is considered as a line, not the line displayed on the screen)
     Program will ask for line no., you can response one of the following:

              Line: 100   goto line 100.
              Line: +50   forward 50 lines.
              Line: -20   backup 50 lines.
              Line: 1     goto beginning of the file.
              Line: $     goto end of the file.

(5)  <RepeatCmd><^F11> -- repeat previous command for no. of times.

(6)  <WordCount><^F5>  -- Count specified string (Can be Chinese)

(7)  <MacroRec> <F11> -- Start/stop Macro Recording

(8)  <MacroExec><F12> -- Execute Recorded Macros

(9)  <Jump> <JTrue> <JFalse> <Pause> #nn(ASCII) $nn(Sleep) for NJCONFIG

(10) <ZwSaveFile><#F2> - Save Current File in zW Format

(11) <ZwDecode  ><#F7> - Decode the current File in zW format

(12) <ZwEditFile><#F8> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(13) <HzSaveFile><#F4> - Save Current File in zW Format

(14) <HzDecode  ><#F5> - Decode the current File in zW format

(15) <HzEditFile><#F6> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(16) <PcxSaveFile><#F3> - Create PCX files (one file per page)

(17) <PrevFile><@F10> - goto previous file

(18) <QuitAll> <^F3>  - Quit all the files in the Ring

(19) <ListDir> <@F1>  - display directory list, total files and free disk space.
      When Enter a file name at bottom line, <ListDir><@F1> & <QuickHelp><F1>
      will display a directory list based on the path name in the file name.

(20) <Print><^P> to print on 9pin/24pin dot matrix printer

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. Features of Version 1.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    (0). NEW -- Print to Postscript Printer, use any font you have.
    (1). Support PinYin, GuoBiao and QuWeiMa input.
    (2). Efficient Chinese Input with LianXiang function.
    (3). Dynamic PinYin table and LianXiang Table Sorting/Ordering.
    (4). LianXiang Table can be expended with more words (up to 65Kb)
    (5). Configurable Key strokes and Help screen.
    (6). Screen display colors are also configurable.
    (7). Many other options can be configured.
    (8). Support EGA 19 lines and VGA 25 Lines display, Fast update.
    (9). Search and replace functions.
   (10). Block Mark, Move, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undelete.
   (11). Line Delete and undelete.
   (12). Support both FanTiZi and JianTiZi.
   (13). Still can load first 65k if file size is larger then 65k.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Program Usage
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1).  NJSTAR [options] [filename, filename, ... filenames] [+linenum]

      All the argument are optional.
      options:
               -?/h -  help
               -e  --  use EGA 19 line display even VGA screen installed
               -v  --  no PinYin input and LianXiang (for RAM less then 512K)
 NEW  [        -d  --  Start a demonstration (Automatically display file)
  IN  [        -zW --  Edit zW encoded file, decode it after read.
Ver1.2[        -Hz --  Edit Hz encoded file, decode it after read.

      filename: any file you want to edit. DOS wide card * and ? can be used
      +linenum: start editing file on line [linenum]. $ == end of the file.
      examples:
                NJSTAR njstar.man +200 njstar +$
                NJSTAR *.doc *.txt
                NJSTAR -e njstar.doc
                NJSTAR -v *.tx?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Hardware Requirement

   IBM PC Compatible Computer with EGA/VGA/SuperVGA monitor. Need at least
   512K free RAM to be full functional (Less then 512K will not be able to
   LianXiang).
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Registration Fee for Ver 1.2 is $39 US dollars Plus $10 Mail handling
Charge ($5 for local user).

For Users who are registered with Njstar Ver 1.02, the Update Fee is US$19
plus mail handling charge.


Please send your check or money order to:

          Hongbo NI
          10/21 Waratah Ave
          Randwick NSW 2031
          Australia

          Phone:   (02) 697 5527 (BH)   (02) 399 9876 (AH)
          E-mail:  hongbo@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au
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                  NJSTAR - A Chinese Editor Version 1.20

            Copyright (C) Hongbo Ni 1991. All Rights Reserved.


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The Shareware Version of NJSTAR Version 1.20 is now available via anonymous FTP
from following sites:

In USA:     ahkcus.org         src/pc/NJSTAR/njstar12.zip
Australia:  usage.csd.unsw.oz.au    tmp/njstar12.zip

It will be soon available on SIMTEL20 archives and it's mirrors.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.                NEW FEATURES IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1)  Intelligent PinYin LianXiang: For some Chinese Chars, the LianXiang lists
     are TOO long, you need to press '>' few times before getting what you want.
     In Ver1.2, Instead of pressing '>', Just typing the PinYin of wanted char,
     the wanted char will be displayed on the top of the list. If the PinYin
     match a multiword LianXiang, then the multiword will be selected. It can
     LianXiang back to two Chinese characters.

(2)  Able to Read from and Write to 'zW' and 'Hz' encoded files.
     Generate PCX file TOO.

(3)  Print to 9pin and 24pin EPSON Compatible Dot Matrix Printer within NJSTAR.
     Have continuous and manual feed modes. and necessary page formatting
 commands.

(4)  Powerful Macros allow user to assign a combination of available commands
     to one key. With conditional and unconditional Jump, it's more flexible.

(5)  Lines and characters deleted continuously by <DEL>, <BackSpace>,
     <DelLine>,<DelToBegLine> and <DelToEndLine> can be totally recovered.

(6)  Display directory list and free disk spaces within NJSTAR.

(7)  Editing multiple files by simply press <NextFile><F10> or<PrevFile><@F10>

(8)  Faster screen display and ASCII input.

(9)  <WordLeft> and <WordRight> now search for Chinese Punctuation.

(10) When Enter a filename or search string, Editing keys can be used.

(11) Maximum size of LianXiang Dic has been increased to 73K bytes.
     Maximum Len. of word which can be added into LXDIC has been increase to 40.

(12) Line and Col number are displayed, <GotoLine> goto specified Line.

(13) End of Line can be displayed to show where is the real end of the line.

(14)  When switch to next file, the marked block are stored for paste.

(15)  When Enter a PinYin without a Tune, the most commonly used chars are
      displayed at top, un-commonly used chars are displayed at end.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.                 NEW COMMANDS IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1)  <ToggleEOL><^F9> command for toggle the display of End of Line mark.

(2)  <LianXiang><@X> to LianXiang previous Chinese Char.

(3)  <FileStatus><^F1> to display current file size, no. of Chinese
     characters and no. of lines (Hard Line). the cursor line (hard) and
     Col are also displayed at bottom line

(4)  <GotoLine><^F6> to go a specific line (NOTE only ENTER('\n')
     is considered as a line, not the line displayed on the screen)
     Program will ask for line no., you can response one of the following:

              Line: 100   goto line 100.
              Line: +50   forward 50 lines.
              Line: -20   backup 50 lines.
              Line: 1     goto beginning of the file.
              Line: $     goto end of the file.

(5)  <RepeatCmd><^F11> -- repeat previous command for no. of times.

(6)  <WordCount><^F5>  -- Count specified string (Can be Chinese)

(7)  <MacroRec> <F11> -- Start/stop Macro Recording

(8)  <MacroExec><F12> -- Execute Recorded Macros

(9)  <Jump> <JTrue> <JFalse> <Pause> #nn(ASCII) $nn(Sleep) for NJCONFIG

(10) <ZwSaveFile><#F2> - Save Current File in zW Format

(11) <ZwDecode  ><#F7> - Decode the current File in zW format

(12) <ZwEditFile><#F8> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(13) <HzSaveFile><#F4> - Save Current File in zW Format

(14) <HzDecode  ><#F5> - Decode the current File in zW format

(15) <HzEditFile><#F6> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(16) <PcxSaveFile><#F3> - Create PCX files (one file per page)

(17) <PrevFile><@F10> - goto previous file

(18) <QuitAll> <^F3>  - Quit all the files in the Ring

(19) <ListDir> <@F1>  - display directory list, total files and free disk space.
      When Enter a file name at bottom line, <ListDir><@F1> & <QuickHelp><F1>
      will display a directory list based on the path name in the file name.

(20) <Print><^P> to print on 9pin/24pin dot matrix printer

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. Features of Version 1.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    (0). NEW -- Print to Postscript Printer, use any font you have.
    (1). Support PinYin, GuoBiao and QuWeiMa input.
    (2). Efficient Chinese Input with LianXiang function.
    (3). Dynamic PinYin table and LianXiang Table Sorting/Ordering.
    (4). LianXiang Table can be expended with more words (up to 65Kb)
    (5). Configurable Key strokes and Help screen.
    (6). Screen display colors are also configurable.
    (7). Many other options can be configured.
    (8). Support EGA 19 lines and VGA 25 Lines display, Fast update.
    (9). Search and replace functions.
   (10). Block Mark, Move, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undelete.
   (11). Line Delete and undelete.
   (12). Support both FanTiZi and JianTiZi.
   (13). Still can load first 65k if file size is larger then 65k.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Program Usage
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1).  NJSTAR [options] [filename, filename, ... filenames] [+linenum]

      All the argument are optional.
      options:
               -?/h -  help
               -e  --  use EGA 19 line display even VGA screen installed
               -v  --  no PinYin input and LianXiang (for RAM less then 512K)
 NEW  [        -d  --  Start a demonstration (Automatically display file)
  IN  [        -zW --  Edit zW encoded file, decode it after read.
Ver1.2[        -Hz --  Edit Hz encoded file, decode it after read.

      filename: any file you want to edit. DOS wide card * and ? can be used
      +linenum: start editing file on line [linenum]. $ == end of the file.
      examples:
                NJSTAR njstar.man +200 njstar +$
                NJSTAR *.doc *.txt
                NJSTAR -e njstar.doc
                NJSTAR -v *.tx?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Hardware Requirement

   IBM PC Compatible Computer with EGA/VGA/SuperVGA monitor. Need at least
   512K free RAM to be full functional (Less then 512K will not be able to
   LianXiang).
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Author:
          Hongbo NI
          10/21 Waratah Ave
          Randwick NSW 2031
          Australia

          Phone:   (02) 697 5527 (BH)   (02) 399 9876 (AH)
          E-mail:  hongbo@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: Huangxin Wang <wang%PENNMESS.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Nisus problem and info
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Status: RO

After I get my Nisus demo for Macintosh, I am very impressed by the
wonderful features it has.  First, you should get a demo disk (free)
from Paragon by sending a mail to:

jon@weber.ucsd.edu

with your address.  You can at least use this demo version to read Hua
Xia Wen Zhai!  (the "Save" is disable in the demo version).

The full version for academic order is $99 (original price is over $300).

It looks like Nisus is much more powerful than MSWord, especially there
are a lot of Desktop publishing feature, and the powerful macro
programming language for one to format the articles.  Another thing is
it can does cross reference properly (Word cannot do that, thus it's
not very useful for writing scientific paper).  Also Nisus is
(supposedly) script compatible, thus you can use it to edit the
two-byte language system (Chinese or Japanese) properly.  It also
contain a very nice MacDraw like utility, which you can use it to edit
figures, as well as control text flow (e.g., text flow around, into,
over, or behide a figure or area).  Also other niffty stuffs:  infinite
number of undo-redo;  multiple clipboard;  multiple selection, very
powerful search utility (it has three level, the highest level is
similar to UNIX "find" or "sed" language).

**********
But here is some problem:  When I use the Nisus with mainland Chinese
version CH6.07, I read in a plain text file (which is not created by
Nisus) containing Chinese, the first problem is before you read it in,
you have to set the font to *Beijing*, otherwise all the Chinese
characters are displayed as English font, and I am not able to change
them to Chinese by selecting them and choose the font in "Font" menu,
very strange! (say, original it's geneva, I try to change it to
*Beijing*, but nothing happen, and in the Font menu, it still check
"Geneva" rather than *Beijing*.  Similar strange problem happen with
with the English charaters in Chinese text.  You are not able to change
it's font.  Also, if I type into the English text which is in
*Beijing*, the inserted English characters is not following the context
font (i.e., in *Beijing* font), but rather it is displayed in some
other font (say, Times).  This is extremely annoying that I have to
retype all the English text!

This sounds like a very strange bug, but since everyone agrees Nisus is
good for Macintosh Chinese System, has anyone encountered such
problem?  Or do I miss some thing in the installation? I am using Nisus
3.06.


		Huangxin Wang ~{Muh+vN~}, University of Pennsylvania

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                  NJSTAR - A Chinese Editor Version 1.20

            Copyright (C) Hongbo Ni 1991. All Rights Reserved.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.                NEW FEATURES IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1)  Intelligent PinYin LianXiang: For some Chinese Chars, the LianXiang lists
     are TOO long, you need to press '>' few times before getting what you want.
     In Ver1.2, Instead of pressing '>', Just typing the PinYin of wanted char,
     the wanted char will be displayed on the top of the list. If the PinYin
     match a multiword LianXiang, then the multiword will be selected. It can
     LianXiang back to two Chinese characters.

(2)  Able to Read from and Write to 'zW' and 'Hz' encoded files.
     Generate PCX file TOO.

(3)  Print to 9pin and 24pin EPSON Compatible Dot Matrix Printer within NJSTAR.
     Have continuous and manual feed modes. and necessary page formatting
 commands.

(4)  Powerful Macros allow user to assign a combination of available commands
     to one key. With conditional and unconditional Jump, it's more flexible.

(5)  Lines and characters deleted continuously by <DEL>, <BackSpace>,
     <DelLine>,<DelToBegLine> and <DelToEndLine> can be totally recovered.

(6)  Display directory list and free disk spaces within NJSTAR.

(7)  Editing multiple files by simply press <NextFile><F10> or<PrevFile><@F10>

(8)  Faster screen display and ASCII input.

(9)  <WordLeft> and <WordRight> now search for Chinese Punctuation.

(10) When Enter a filename or search string, Editing keys can be used.

(11) Maximum size of LianXiang Dic has been increased to 73K bytes.
     Maximum Len. of word which can be added into LXDIC has been increase to 40.

(12) Line and Col number are displayed, <GotoLine> goto specified Line.

(13) End of Line can be displayed to show where is the real end of the line.

(14)  When switch to next file, the marked block are stored for paste.

(15)  When Enter a PinYin without a Tune, the most commonly used chars are
      displayed at top, un-commonly used chars are displayed at end.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.                 NEW COMMANDS IN VERSION 1.20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1)  <ToggleEOL><^F9> command for toggle the display of End of Line mark.

(2)  <LianXiang><@X> to LianXiang previous Chinese Char.

(3)  <FileStatus><^F1> to display current file size, no. of Chinese
     characters and no. of lines (Hard Line). the cursor line (hard) and
     Col are also displayed at bottom line

(4)  <GotoLine><^F6> to go a specific line (NOTE only ENTER('\n')
     is considered as a line, not the line displayed on the screen)
     Program will ask for line no., you can response one of the following:

              Line: 100   goto line 100.
              Line: +50   forward 50 lines.
              Line: -20   backup 50 lines.
              Line: 1     goto beginning of the file.
              Line: $     goto end of the file.

(5)  <RepeatCmd><^F11> -- repeat previous command for no. of times.

(6)  <WordCount><^F5>  -- Count specified string (Can be Chinese)

(7)  <MacroRec> <F11> -- Start/stop Macro Recording

(8)  <MacroExec><F12> -- Execute Recorded Macros

(9)  <Jump> <JTrue> <JFalse> <Pause> #nn(ASCII) $nn(Sleep) for NJCONFIG

(10) <ZwSaveFile><#F2> - Save Current File in zW Format

(11) <ZwDecode  ><#F7> - Decode the current File in zW format

(12) <ZwEditFile><#F8> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(13) <HzSaveFile><#F4> - Save Current File in zW Format

(14) <HzDecode  ><#F5> - Decode the current File in zW format

(15) <HzEditFile><#F6> - Load a file which is zW encoded, and decode it.

(16) <PcxSaveFile><#F3> - Create PCX files (one file per page)

(17) <PrevFile><@F10> - goto previous file

(18) <QuitAll> <^F3>  - Quit all the files in the Ring

(19) <ListDir> <@F1>  - display directory list, total files and free disk space.
      When Enter a file name at bottom line, <ListDir><@F1> & <QuickHelp><F1>
      will display a directory list based on the path name in the file name.

(20) <Print><^P> to print on 9pin/24pin dot matrix printer

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. Features of Version 1.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    (0). NEW -- Print to Postscript Printer, use any font you have.
    (1). Support PinYin, GuoBiao and QuWeiMa input.
    (2). Efficient Chinese Input with LianXiang function.
    (3). Dynamic PinYin table and LianXiang Table Sorting/Ordering.
    (4). LianXiang Table can be expended with more words (up to 65Kb)
    (5). Configurable Key strokes and Help screen.
    (6). Screen display colors are also configurable.
    (7). Many other options can be configured.
    (8). Support EGA 19 lines and VGA 25 Lines display, Fast update.
    (9). Search and replace functions.
   (10). Block Mark, Move, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undelete.
   (11). Line Delete and undelete.
   (12). Support both FanTiZi and JianTiZi.
   (13). Still can load first 65k if file size is larger then 65k.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Program Usage
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1).  NJSTAR [options] [filename, filename, ... filenames] [+linenum]

      All the argument are optional.
      options:
               -?/h -  help
               -e  --  use EGA 19 line display even VGA screen installed
               -v  --  no PinYin input and LianXiang (for RAM less then 512K)
 NEW  [        -d  --  Start a demonstration (Automatically display file)
  IN  [        -zW --  Edit zW encoded file, decode it after read.
Ver1.2[        -Hz --  Edit Hz encoded file, decode it after read.

      filename: any file you want to edit. DOS wide card * and ? can be used
      +linenum: start editing file on line [linenum]. $ == end of the file.
      examples:
                NJSTAR njstar.man +200 njstar +$
                NJSTAR *.doc *.txt
                NJSTAR -e njstar.doc
                NJSTAR -v *.tx?

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5. Hardware Requirement

   IBM PC Compatible Computer with EGA/VGA/SuperVGA monitor. Need at least
   512K free RAM to be full functional (Less then 512K will not be able to
   LianXiang).
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The Registration Fee for Ver 1.2 is $39 US dollars Plus $10 Mail handling
Charge ($5 for local user).

For Users who are registered with Njstar Ver 1.02, the Update Fee is US$19
plus mail handling charge.


Please send your check or money order to:

          Hongbo NI
          10/21 Waratah Ave
          Randwick NSW 2031
          Australia

          Phone:   (02) 697 5527 (BH)   (02) 399 9876 (AH)
          E-mail:  hongbo@usage.csd.unsw.oz.au
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Subject:      re: editor?
To: Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@UGA>
Status: RO

I use KS II, Hanjiang wenshu chuli xitong ("Han River Word Processing
System"), which is made by the company that makes Guoqiao ("National
Bridge").  It's excellent for working with Chinese text, but still too
primitive for academic papers in European languages.  I got it from a
friend named Jimmy Yeh, who has a small business selling Chinese
software and computer equipment in New York.  His phone number is
either 212-666-3770 or 212-884-9816 (my notes are confused); he prefers
to speak in Chinese but English is ok.  I got ETen from him also.  They
each cost around $80-$100.

Anyone know yet how to purchase Chinese Windows in/from the US?  The
messages about it working sort of well with Word were encouraging.
Was that Word for Windows or plain old Word?

/Ned

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From: Stephen G Simpson <simpson%MATH.PSU.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      editor?
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Val Luck writes:
 > Hi.  I am using ET for my IBM and the only editor I can load into memory
 > is personal editor (PE2.)  Does anyone know of another decent editor
 > (perhaps a VI clone?) that does not strip the high bit?  The VI editor
 > I use strips the high bit making using chinese software useless.

Sounds like you want Celvis.  Celvis is an 8-bit clean Chinese version
of Elvis, the famous vi clone.  The Unix version is used with cxterm
and the DOS version works with ET.

Celvis is available for anonymous ftp from crl.nmsu.edu, but I am not
sure if that version includes the mods for DOS.  Please get that one,
and if that doesn't have what you need, let me know and I will find a
way to get the PC version to you.

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Status: RO

 In article <9110200002.AA12954@pylos>, Stephen G Simpson
<simpson%MATH.PSU.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:

 Stephen> Comments: To: ccnet-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

 Stephen> Val Luck writes:
 > Hi.  I am using ET for my IBM and the only editor I can load into
 > memory is personal editor (PE2.)  Does anyone know of another
 > decent editor (perhaps a VI clone?) that does not strip the high
 > bit?  The VI editor
 > I use strips the high bit making using chinese software useless.

 Stephen> Sounds like you want Celvis.  Celvis is an 8-bit clean
 Stephen> Chinese version of Elvis, the famous vi clone.  The Unix
 Stephen> version is used with cxterm and the DOS version works with
 Stephen> ET.

 Stephen> Celvis is available for anonymous ftp from crl.nmsu.edu, but I am not
 Stephen> sure if that version includes the mods for DOS.  Please get that one,
 Stephen> and if that doesn't have what you need, let me know and I will find a
 Stephen> way to get the PC version to you.

The version of Celvis at crl.nmsu.edu seems to have the MSDOS stuff in
it.  I am not sure if it is the latest, but you can check
cs.purdue.edu:pub/ygz/ [128.10.2.1] for the latest
version.
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From: XiaoFei Wang <xiaofei%ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
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Status: RO

 Stephen> Sounds like you want Celvis.  Celvis is an 8-bit clean
 Stephen> Chinese version of Elvis, the famous vi clone.  The Unix
 Stephen> version is used with cxterm and the DOS version works with
 Stephen> ET.

1)
 I have two naive questions for you expert on the net. The msdos version
 from purdue in zip format seems nothing but an elvis. It can edit
 English but not Chinese. For one thing, there is not any font in the
 package.

 Now Stephen said that msdos version works with ET. What is an `ET'?
 Is that an operationg system? Then we have two OS MSDOS and ET, can
 they run together ? Is ET free ?

2)
 Now I also have a question about the cxterm. My guess is it opens a
 Chinese window. Is this Chinese window something UNDER the X11 Window
 or Open Window, i.e. one has to open one of the X11 Window and OpenWin
 in order to open Chinese Window? Or One has directly open Chinese
 Window without openning the X11 or OpenWin? Since we are using Chinese
 Window, then I do not know why there is this special notice for
 OpenWin?

quote from how-to-make from purdue:

Install Chinese fonts
---------------------

  **** SPECIAL NOTICES FOR "Sun Open Windows (TM)" ****

        If you are running X11/NeWS window system server ("xnews")
        under Open Windows instead of MIT X11 window system server,
        use the following commands to install the fonts instead:

                % uncompress cclib16st.bdf.Z
                % convertfont -f 16 -M cclib16st.bdf
                % convertfont -f 16 8x18.bdf
                % bldfamily -f 16

        The same "xset" step can be used to inform your window system.

end of quote

3) Celvis
I gave a try for Celvis without Chinese Win opened and Fonts installed.
I belive it should behave exactly as elvis or vi. But it does not know
the following command:

:r ~/.cshrc

I have elvis compiled and I did not recall it has such obvious problem.
Is this a problem with Celvis implemention?

4) The last question.

I have gb2ps,
newsps ( big5-to-ps ) and readnews ( big5-to-ascii ),
b2g
utilities and associated fonts. Now if I want to install celvis on unix
then I would like install the smallest fonts. Since once I have GB file
or Big5 file, I know how to handle from then. Is this the right way of
thinking?

Your kindness of replyingmy message will be greatly appreciated.

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Subject:      celvis and cxterm (was Re: editor? )
Comments: To: XiaoFei Wang <xiaofei%ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Comments: cc: CCNET-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
To: Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@UGA>
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              21 Oct 91 01:26:41 -0400.
              <199110210532.AA13581@arthur.cs.purdue.edu>
Status: RO

XiaoFei Wang <xiaofei%ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu> wrote:
>  The msdos version
>  from purdue in zip format seems nothing but an elvis. It can edit
>  English but not Chinese. For one thing, there is not any font in the
>  package.

celvis is nothing but an editor with Chinese handling capability.
It requires to a Chinese terminal emulator or Chinese system,
such as cxterm, or ETen DOS.

>  Now Stephen said that msdos version works with ET. What is an `ET'?
>  Is that an operationg system? Then we have two OS MSDOS and ET, can
>  they run together ? Is ET free ?

It's a commercial Chinese DOS for IBM-PC, run on top of MSDOS.
Just like CCDOS is the most widely used Chinese DOS in mainland China,
ET is probably the most widely used Chinese DOS in Taiwan.
Unfortunely, it is not free.


>  Now I also have a question about the cxterm. My guess is it opens a
>  Chinese window. Is this Chinese window something UNDER the X11 Window
>  or Open Window, i.e. one has to open one of the X11 Window and OpenWin
>  in order to open Chinese Window? Or One has directly open Chinese
>  Window without openning the X11 or OpenWin? Since we are using Chinese
>  Window, then I do not know why there is this special notice for
>  OpenWin?

Cxterm is just like xterm.  It is an application of some window system
(in technical term, a client program of some window server).  You have
to start X11 (or OpenWin) to run cxterm.

Windowing systems such as X11 manage the input/output devices (display,
keyboard, and mouse) and the software resources like windows, fonts, etc.
They thus provide a higher abstraction and relieve the window application
programs from worrying about details like handling overlap, or painting
bitmaps for a certain character.  The generality of such window system
makes multilingual application much easier.  Once a Chinese font file is
given, you can display Chinese on X11 without any changes to the systems.
That's why we don't need to develop a Chinese window system to use Chinese.


> I gave a try for Celvis without Chinese Win opened and Fonts installed.
> I belive it should behave exactly as elvis or vi. But it does not know
> the following command:
>
> :r ~/.cshrc
>
> I have elvis compiled and I did not recall it has such obvious problem.
> Is this a problem with Celvis implemention?

Celvis is base on elvis 1.3.  You still cannot use ~ as home directory in
elvis 1.3.  The version of elvis you have is probably the newer elvis 1.4,
in which this problem is fixed.  By the way elvis 1.5 is in its beta test
and may be out soon.  I think I will probably wait for elvis 1.5 before
I jump to celvis 1.4.


--ygz

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 In article <9110211608.AA17779@pylos>, "John M."
 <JRM%CORNELLA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:

 John> I'm considering buying copies of WordPerfect for my
 John> newly-acquired Sun SPARC station, which I want to use with CJK
 John> characters.  Has anybody tried this?  Any suggestions, for or
 John> against?  Also, does ETEN on the PC work with Word- Perfect 5.0
 John> yet?  (I seem to recall previous versions only worked with WP
 John> 4.2?)

I investigated CJK capable versions of WordPerfect for Unix about 3 or
4 months ago, and the only version they were working on at the time
was the Japanese version.  They hadn't finished that when I called
them and didn't know when it would be out.

Maybe it would be a good idea to check with them again.
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Subject:      Chinese Software
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Receiving Pacific Rim Connections' catalog is like receiving a treasure box.
I've found many softwares that I did not know.  I list the softwares in it as
well as others, which I know of and do not appear in it.  Remember most of the
softwares Pacific Rim has are sold by other sources too.  I find Pacific Rim
has the largest collection of oriental language related softwares.  I will post
more detailed information regarding some of the softwares in separate articles
in next couple of months.  Most of the softwares are for IBM PC.  Many of them
have Mac versions.

If you want to contact Pacific Rim, try

(415)697-0911, Fax:697-9439
Pacific Rim Connections, Inc.
3030 Atwater Dr.
Burlingame, CA  94010


Please note that I have no connection with Pacific Rim Connection, Inc.
The following information does mean to be accurate and un-biased.


               Available from Pacific Rim               Others

Chinese Word   BrushWriter 4.5, TianMa II+, FeiMa,      ET, 5-Stroke
Processing     Easyword, Mishu Chinese Accessory for    (WuBiXing), Byx
and Desktop    Mac, MacChinese, Ready Page, Pinxxiee,   (XiaLiBaRen),
Publishing     Jiejing (Shortcut), Chinastar II-5565    DukeWrite?(from Duke),
                                                        Ch-series, CPTS,
                                                        Bisheng

DataBase

Spread Sheet   AhMei (Chart)
and Graphics

accounting                                              (Office Plus)

Draw and       Art(AhTu)
Paint

Education,     Book of Chang: I-Ching, ChinEASE,
Chinese        Bilingual Scholar, Rapid Voice Card,
Tutoring       Chinese Pronunciation, Chinese Survival
aries yjj(3)> cat cc1
Receiving Pacific Rim Connections' catalog is like receiving a treasure box.
I've found many softwares that I did not know.  I list the softwares in it as
well as others, which I know of and do not appear in it.  Remember most of the
softwares Pacific Rim has are sold by other sources too.  I find Pacific Rim
has the largest collection of oriental language related softwares.  I will post
more detailed information regarding some of the softwares in separate articles
in next couple of months.  Most of the softwares are for IBM PC.  Many of them
have Mac versions.

If you want to contact Pacific Rim, try

(415)697-0911, Fax:697-9439
Pacific Rim Connections, Inc.
3030 Atwater Dr.
Burlingame, CA  94010


Please note that I have no connection with Pacific Rim Connection, Inc.


               Available from Pacific Rim               Others

Chinese Word   BrushWriter 4.5, TianMa II+, FeiMa,      ET, 5-Stroke
Processing     Easyword, Mishu Chinese Accessory for    (WuBiXing), Byx
and Desktop    Mac, MacChinese, Ready Page, Pinxxiee,   (XiaLiBaRen),
Publishing     Jiejing (Shortcut), Chinastar II-5565    DukeWrite?(from Duke),
                                                        Ch-series, CPTS,
                                                        Bisheng

DataBase

Spread Sheet   AhMei (Chart)
and Graphics

accounting                                              (Office Plus)

Draw and       Art(AhTu)
Paint

Education,     Book of Chang: I-Ching, ChinEASE,
Chinese        Bilingual Scholar, Rapid Voice Card,
Tutoring       Chinese Pronunciation, Chinese Survival
               Manual & Language Lab, Chinese
               Flashcard Stack

Game           Xi'an 3.0, Contender GO (new 3-D)        Go

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              <0004151319@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      XinTianMa/GB-Big5/CCDOS
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Status: RO

..............................................................................
Dorothy Day (Subject:  Big 5 and scholarly usage) writes:

 >BTW, has anyone on this list tried Xin TianMa, which is now entirely
 >hard-disk based (but with a hardware "key" on the parallel port)? I
 >know it's been released, but haven't spoken with anyone who has used
 >it.

The China Business Review, March/April 1991, Vol 18, No.2, pp 16-20, contains
an article "Making Computers Chinese Compatible" which includes a capsule
comparison of several Chinese language software offerings (including
XinTianma) from a business/wordprocessing perspective.  NB: Review based on
pre-release version of XTM, some of listed features may not yet have been
incorporated.  Some user reports indicate satisfaction with program; however,
386 based PC probably required for adequate speed.

.............................................................................
Ned Walsh (Subject:  Re: GB versus BIG-5) writes:

 >Tianma and Guoqiao support both traditional and simplified characters--but
 >only one set at a time; you can't mix the two in the same file.

Latest version of Tianma (XinTianma) allows mixing of simplified/traditional
characters in same file.  ETen is now marketing a "Jian/Fan" (Simplified/
Traditional) Chinese system in Taiwan.  Don't know if it allows combining
sets, but suspect it does.

 >And while I'm in a whining sort of mood, I might as well mention
 >there's still no solution to the sorting problem I mentioned last
 >month.

Amen.  For all the GB-Big5 give-and-take, this seems to be the most telling
point (as Yongguang Zhang set forth recently, Subject: GB vs BIG-5: technical
point of view

 >  hanzi:
 >     level 1: 3755 (in pinyin pronunciation order),
 >     level 2: 3008 (in radical order).                    )

>From a nonprogrammer's viewpoint, I don't see how an encoding scheme such as
GB that uses two different principles for ordering its level 1 and level 2
character sets can be seen as desirable.  I recently had the opportunity to
ask a PRC programmer who had worked on the official Chinese version of
dBase IV how the program would be able to uniformly sort a data file
containing characters from both levels, and the answer was simply to employ
the work-around of creating an additional alphanumeric coding field for
sorting purposes.  I don't see this as a satisfactory solution, but perhaps
I am missing something?

.............................................................................
REITSMAC (Subject:  Where can I get info...) writes:

 >Can anyone point me in the right direction towards a vendor for CCDOS or
 >WordStar - Chinese?

The "official" CCDOS/Wordstar software can be purchased in the PRC from:

   Chen Furui, Director Manager
   Technical Marketing Department
   6th Research Institute
   Ministry of Machine Building & Electronics Industry
   No.25 East Qing Hua Road
   Haidian District PO Box 927
   Beijing, PRC  100083
   Tel: 2015882  Tlx: (01) 2018672  Cbl: 0362

I don't know if they are willing to ship the software in question out of PRC.
Of course, many (improved?) variants of CCDOS can be purchased from private
software vendors in China (technically pirated), and the Chinese version of
WordStar itself is a pirate of the WordStar company's program.  Be extremely
cautious of viruses on ANY copies of this software obtained from ANY source.
.............................................................................
Jeff Kao, The US-China Business Council
.............................................................................

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The most recent version of Nisus is 3.06.  It works very well with Chinese OS.
You can buy it from Paragon with Academic price (fax your ID) $99.

Nisus (Paragon Concept) 800-922-2993, 619-481-1477  (FAX)  (619)481-6154

		Huangxin Wang ~{Muh+vN~}, University of Pennsylvania

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>What is the current version of Nisus? I once heard that the most-recent
>version of Nisus is not working with some version of the Mac Chinese
>Operating System. Is it still true now?

Nisus 3.0.6 is completely compatible with the Apple Chinese systems TAI
6.0.x and CHI 6.0.x.

>> 1)  It is not possible to switch easily between traditional and
>> simplified characters.  At ahkcus.org there is a conversion utility
>
>One should be able to install Mac Bei on top of Mac Tai. At least this
>is true in the case with version 6.0.5. Ed Lai also has CiHui input
>method for Mac Tai. In a combined system, you can switch back and
>forth with the simplified and complex characters. Simply choose the
>different fonts, and the input method will switch accordingly.

i)  I would be interested in learning how to do this.  I tried combining CHI
6.0.7 with TAI 6.0.3 without success.

ii)  But what I meant by switching is rather taking a document in simplified
characters and changing it to traditional, e.g. taking a test written in
simplified characters and printing it in traditional for a student that wants
traditional characters.  One can do this with the conversion utility HC 1.5,
but it is difficult.  But because I have to convert all the time, I have two
solutions, albeit clumsy ones:

a) MS Word:  For Word documents I wrote a Pascal program that removes
the text from the header and footer; after running the text through HC 1.5,
another Pascal program then replaces the text.  Because conversion is a
one-to-one substitution, all of the formatting is preserved properly.

b) Nisus:  Using the programming languages and GREP capabilities of
Nisus, I wrote a macro that finds all instances of the Chinese font, selects
them (noncontiguously), and then (using push and pop commands) copies
the selected text to the end of the file.  I can then copy the Chinese to
another file, use the conversion utility, and then paste the Chinese back into
the end of the file.  The second macro then finds the original locations of the
Chinese, and (using push and pop) pastes them back in.

Neither of these solutions are ideal, but I had alot of simplified documents
that I needed to convert to traditional.  If someone has better solutions I
would be interested in knowing about them.


>There exist 64 pt fonts for Mac Bei. I don't know their availability
>though. I thought it came with the Mac Bei, and apparently they
>didn't.

Does anyone know where these can be obtained??

>> 3)  Of course, TAI 6.0.6 will not run on the new LC-IIsi-Classic line.
>> Pacific Connections (800 745 0911) may be able to sell you the 6.0.7
>> version.
>
>You should be able to get them free of charge from the d e v e l o p
>magazine. They come with a compact disk in every issue. I don't know

Unfortunately the developer CD-ROM only has only had TAI 6.0.6 on it for
the last several months, althouth apparently TAI 6.0.7 is available in Hong
Kong.  And the font sets on 6.0.x (the less-frequently used characters) are
incomplete.  I suspect that TAI 6.0.7 may not appear on the CD-ROM, but I
have no idea about Apple plans in this regard, nor am clear I as to what
Apple policy is about this.

Can anyone add something here??  What about Chinese System 7 and font
sets?  When will they be available, and what will Apple's policy be??

(I suggested Pacific Rim Connections because I have gotten very good
advice from them; and several times when we have called them they have
talked us out of buying anything.)


Roger Hart
UCLA

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>A colleague in the Comparative Literature department here asked me to
>recommend Chinese editing software for her department to purchase and


For anyone whose work requires Chinese word processing in English
documents (Chinese language teaching materials and academic
papers in my case), I strongly recommend the Apple Chinese
operating systems--CH 6.0.7 (simplified) or TA 6.0.x (traditional),
Ed Lai's Cihui, Nisus, and HeapTool.

Nisus is completely compatible with the Apple Chinese systems.  As
an English word processor, it is a generation ahead of anything else I
have seen on a Mac (or PC).  It is handles different scripts (English,
Chinese) intelligently, has complete WSYIWYG for Chinese and
English, and has all the macro and expression parsing (GREP)
capabilities you need when you work with Chinese and English, in
addition to dozens of other features.

Cihui:  Cihui is freeware by Ed Lai of Apple et. al. that allows for
input of words (ci) instead of just characters (zi).  It is available
for ftp at ahkcus.org.

HeapTool:  this is recommended to avoid crashes and loss of Chinese
input capability that can occur under Multifinder.  It is shareware
available from America On-line, SUMEX, etc.  After installing it we
have not had any problems with crashes.

I have spent hundreds of hours struggling with other systems such
as Tianma, Feima, Brushwriter (Mac), MacChina, etc.  The above
combination is not only the best but at the present time really the
*only* system that has the needed capabilities.  For example, input
is easy in Tianma, but it has few of the features you expect a word
processor to have (footnotes, spelling, italics, etc.) much less
WYSIWYG, GREP searches, DTP capabilities, etc.  We spent *more
time formatting* than typing in Chinese.  (I have not tried the Xin
Tianma)


Problems with this combination:

1)  It is not possible to switch easily between traditional and
simplified characters.  At ahkcus.org there is a conversion utility
which works very well, but it works with *text* documents, so you
lose all the formatting.  I have written a Nisus macro to solve this,
but it is a bit awkward.

2)  While the 48 x 48 traditional fonts are beautiful at 12 pt. (they
look better than my English outline fonts), the simplified fonts are
12 x 12 and can look blocky on a non-Postscript printer.

3)  Of course, TAI 6.0.6 will not run on the new LC-IIsi-Classic line.
Pacific Connections (800 745 0911) may be able to sell you the 6.0.7
version.

>5  Must be able to print on IBM graphics printers.

I'm not sure about this.



Roger Hart
UCLA

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Greetings,

> Date:         Wed, 11 Dec 1991 16:02:00 PST
> From: Xincun Huang <IZZYKD3%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
>
> >A colleague in the Comparative Literature department here asked me to
> >recommend Chinese editing software for her department to purchase and
>
>
> Nisus is completely compatible with the Apple Chinese systems.  As
> an English word processor, it is a generation ahead of anything else I
> have seen on a Mac (or PC).  It is handles different scripts (English,
> Chinese) intelligently, has complete WSYIWYG for Chinese and
> English, and has all the macro and expression parsing (GREP)
> capabilities you need when you work with Chinese and English, in
> addition to dozens of other features.

What is the current version of Nisu? I once heard that the most-recent
version of Nisu is not working with some version of the Mac Chinese
Operating System. Is it still true now?
>
> Problems with this combination:
>
> 1)  It is not possible to switch easily between traditional and
> simplified characters.  At ahkcus.org there is a conversion utility
> which works very well, but it works with *text* documents, so you
> lose all the formatting.  I have written a Nisus macro to solve this,
> but it is a bit awkward.

One should be able to install Mac Bei on top of Mac Tai. At least this
is true in the case with version 6.0.5. Ed Lai also has CiHui input
method for Mac Tai. In a combined system, you can switch back and
forth with the simplified and complex characters. Simply choose the
different fonts, and the input method will switch accordingly.

> 2)  While the 48 x 48 traditional fonts are beautiful at 12 pt. (they
> look better than my English outline fonts), the simplified fonts are
> 12 x 12 and can look blocky on a non-Postscript printer.

There exist 64 pt fonts for Mac Bei. I don't know their availability
though. I thought it came with the Mac Bei, and apparently they
didn't.

> 3)  Of course, TAI 6.0.6 will not run on the new LC-IIsi-Classic line.
> Pacific Connections (800 745 0911) may be able to sell you the 6.0.7
> version.

You should be able to get them free of charge from the d e v e l o p
magazine. They come with a compact disk in every issue. I don't know
what the most recent issue is. But Mac Bei and Mac Tai 6.07 should be
on one of the most recent issues.

BTW, all my experience was with 6.05 back a while ago. Due to my disk
space and my little use of Chinese system, I have taken the combined
system out of my Mac Plus. I cannot say if the combination will work
with 6.07. Maybe Mr. Wang HuangXing can say more on this.

Also, a Japanese has tried to modify the Mac Japanese 6.07 to
work under Mac OS 7.0x. He posted the patch on the newsgroup. I don't
if his patch will work for Mac Bei or Mac Tai. Mr. Sun had some bad
experience porting it to the Chinese system. Has anyone else tried?

> >5  Must be able to print on IBM graphics printers.
>
> I'm not sure about this.

There might be driver for IBM graphics printer but I don't know if it
works with the Chinese system.

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* Beijing 6.0.7 and Taipei 6.0.6 co-reside very well.  Taipei 6.0.6 contains
only the 6.0.6 script resource, therefore it doesn't update the system. Which
means one can install Beijing 6.0.7 on top of Taipei 6.0.6 and make it a 6.0.7
compatible version.  In my case I then installed English 6.0.7 on top of both
Chinese systems, so it's a "true" 6.0.7, switchable between three environments.

* HanziConverter 1.5 converts all TEXT files between JianTi and FanTi. I use
Word to save the file into TEXT ONLY format, convert it, and then open and redo
the layout. It's "bearable", not bad.

* TurboWriter has two separate versions to work with the two Chinese systems,
which I don't feel very comfortable - although the appropriate version handles
the Chinese characters much better than Word.

* Some companies in Taiwan and Hong Kong are distributing type I postscrip
Chinese character sets (Apple mentioned them in the Readme file). I hope that
they can work with ATM to facilitate non-postscript printers.  ATM co-resides
with the combined Chinese/English system very well.

* Sun Kang mentioned that I failed to get the Chinese system to work with 7.0,
and I did in fact gave it up. So far as I can tell, ChineseTalk does not like
the current English TrueType technology. TrueType is a build-in feature of 7.0.
I did not further ask the Japanese guy about his trick.

* I totally agree that the BEST way to work with Chinese on the Mac is to get
the operating systems (both of them) and use Nisus. Other software also work
(like MS Word) but not as good.


Jack

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This may be a good news to many of you.  I find an ad on World Journal
selling Chinese Windows 3.0A.  It's from
Information Integration, Inc.
East Coast: (301)840-8977 (ask Sheena)
West Coast: (415)840-1320 (ask Eric)
On the ad:
*All MS Windows 3.0 features, adding Chinese input and output capability
*Three fonts (Ming, Yuan[round] and  Hei[black] Ti), scalable
*Screen input, CangJie, Fast, Inercode, ZhuYin
*Free wordprocessing, drawing and form applications
*for business
*for child education

Also available: traditional<->simplified ZhiKu (fonts?), PinYin
input, handwriting input, Chinese OCR.

There are many vendors for Chinese softtware in New York area.
The biggest on is
Abest
83-09 Northern Blvd
Jackson Heights, NY  11372
(718)507-8485, fax:507-7795
It carries the whole line of ET products

On the west coast
Pacific Rim Connections, Inc.
3030 Atwater Dr.
Burlingame, CA  94010
(415)697-0911, Fax:697-9439
is the biggest vendor for Chinese software

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Subject: CWIN3.0a Vendors in Europe
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To complete your information

Chinese Windows 3.0a and other language software

can be bought in Europe at
L&S Language and Software
Vienna, Austria
phone (fax) +43-1-310 5229
CS-ID: 100020, 3121

Orders take 2-3 weeks for payment and delivery.
Payable in with EuroCheque
ATS 	3500
DM	 540
FF	1800
Universities and translation offices ask four discounts.
Prices may undergo changes in the next weeks.

Thank you for your attention.



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Dear bitnet user;

I have read quite a few mail messages inquiring about Chinese software
and hardware products.  I know of a mail order company that sells nothing
except Chinese software and hardware for PC, Mac and UNIX systems.

Product categories include word processors, business packages, CAI's, graphics,
Chinese MS-Windows 3.0, translators, Chinese fonts, Chinese systems, CTP's,
and dictionaries to Chinese keyboards.

Chinese translator software for persons working for universities or big
international companies:
You may be wondering if there is software that can translate English
to Chinese, Chinese to English, or any other languages to Chinese.
There is such software!  There are, to my knowledge, at least five
companies making such products.

One of these companies, OTEK, makes this kind of software with the
North American market in mind.  All of the menus and screens: are in English,
which is good for those who know a little bit of Chinese but need to do a lot
of English to Chinese translation.  You can easily translate books, menus,
letters, and faxes using this software.

For more information, please contact:

Data Station
P.O. Box 91654
City of Industry, CA 91715-1654
(213)344-8595

12/19/91
James Chen

P.S. Write to them before december 30th, you will be able to get a free gift.

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***********************************************************************
*  Release of cWnn 4.10 (A Chinese Input System on Unix Workstations) *
***********************************************************************

  cWnn is an integrated Chinese Input system running on Unix Workstations.
  It supports a wide range of input methods, satisfying the needs of the
  Chinese users from all over the world, including both P.R.China and Taiwan.

  cWnn is capable of carrying out Hanzi conversion from an arbitrary Pinyin
  or Zhuyin sequence, hence improving the speed of Pinyin/Zhuyin input.
  cWnn is developed on Omron LUNA workstation and has been ported to other
  Unix workstations.


System Architecture and Configurations
=======================================
  cWnn adopts the Client-Server Model of Unix operating system.  The server
  will perform the service requests from all the clients, which may reside
  in the same or different machines.  In this way, resources are shared and
  multi-user environment is achieved.

  cWnn is capable of displaying Chinese characters based on GB and CNS
  internal codes.

  Current machines/OS that support cWnn are:
      Hardware		 Operating System	Window system
    --------------	 ----------------	-------------
    LUNA (Omron)	 UniOS-U, UniOS-B	X, GMW
    LUNA II (Omron)	 UniOS-U, Mach		X, GMW
    LUNA 88K (Omron)	 Mach			X
    Sun-3		 SunOS 4.1		SunView, X
    Sun-4		 SunOS 4.1		SunView, X
    SPARCstation	 SunOS 4.1		SunView, X


Input Methods and Features of cWnn
===================================
  The current input methods available from cWnn are the commonly used
  phonetic input methods such as Pinyin (Quanpin, Erpin, Sanpin), and
  Zhuyin.
  The encoded input methods include Wubi and Qianma.  However, cWnn
  enables any encoded input methods to be installed easily.
  Other input methods include Guobiao, Quwei, Neima, Banjiao and
  Quanjiao input.

  The features of cWnn are:
  (1) Multi-phrase Hanzi Conversion
      - System is able to convert an arbitrary length of Pinyin/Zhuyin
        to the expected Hanzi at one time.

  (2) Standardization of Pinyin and Zhuyin
      - User is able to input both Pinyin and Zhuyin, while the system
        will still be able to carry out the conversion.

  (3) Ideal Input Environment
      - There will be a check on all user input, and warning is provided
        during illegal input.
      - Auto-correction may be performed on certain Pinyin/Zhuyin.
      - Automatic segmentation of input.
      - Auto-mapping of input performed by the preprocessor.
      - Error tolerance for 4 tones, which may be omitted or input wrongly.
      - Error tolerance for Pinyin.  User can have his individual
        definitions for Pinyin which he often gets confused.

  (4) Easy Installation of Any Input Method

  (5) Environment Independent
      - Multi-environment / multi-user
      - Each user has his individual environment
      - Input environment can be defined and modified.

  (6) Good and Flexible Environment Setup
      - Setup of dictionary
        User is able to have his own dictionary setup according to his needs.

      - User interface
        User is able to setup his own input environment, including keyboard
        definition and conversion key setup.

      - Setup of input methods
        Input methods can be easily selected.

      - Conversion parameters
        User is able to change the parameter values used for conversion.

      - Addition / modification / deletion of grammar files is possible
        (Note: After modification, the definitions in the dictionary and
               grammar file should be consistent)

  (7) Resource Sharing
      - Sharing of dictionaries, usage frequency and grammar files.
      - Sharing of conversion service.

  (8) Library functions available for implementation of other Chinese
      applications.


Other Functions
===============
  (1) Candidates Selection
      - User is able to select other candidates having the same pronunciation.

  (2) Re-Conversion
      - Re-input and re-conversion of input is possible after the initial
        conversion.

  (3) Self Adaptation
      - Usage frequency is updated whenever a word is selected.

  (4) Addition / Deletion of Dictionary
      Registration / Search / Deletion of Words


Where and How to Access cWnn Source
===================================
  cWnn has been released together with X11R5 by X-consortium, MIT.
  A multi-language input client called "Xwnmo", which makes use of various
  language servers including cserver, is also available from X-consortium.

  cWnn's source program is now available from the X-consortium.  However,
  an alternative source is from the FTP site in Japan.

  FTP address in Japan:
	relay.ncl.omron.co.jp

  Procedure to obtain cWnn source from FTP site:
	% ftp relay.ncl.omron.co.jp
 	user(ftp): ftp
	passwd:
	> cd ~/pub/x11r5

  You may obtain all cWnn related information from the above directory.

  Online manual and man files are available.  These include cWnn usage
  and installation, and they are found under the directory cWnn/manual.en.

  cWnn is now freely distributed, and we welcome any questions regarding
  cWnn to be sent to us if problems are encountered.  Please direct your
  questions to:
	cwnn@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp
	cwnn@omcp.omron.co.jp


CWNN DEVELOPMENT TEAM

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From: Hongbo Ni <hongbo%CSDUNIX0.CSD.UNSW.OZ.AU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      NJStar V2.0 with menu & mouse
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                              NJStar(tm)
                  A Chinese Word Processor Version 2.00
            Copyright (C) Hongbo Ni 1991.  All Rights Reserved


The shareware version of NJStar(tm) V2.00 is now available by anonymous FTP
from:
        ahkcus.org   file:  src\pc\NJSTAR\njstar20.zip

and will be soon available on CHYDE(Garbo), SIMTEL20 and their mirrors.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      NEW FEATURES IN VERSION 2.00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1)  User friendly interface with pull-down menu and mouse support. Most of
     the commands can be accessed  through  the  menu.  Mouse  Buttons  are
     Configurable. Mouse can be used to move the cursor, mark the block and
     scroll the text.

(2)  In PinYin mode. NJStar can enter Chinese Word by Word. For example:
     type 'zhongguo' will get 'CHINA'.

(3)  Support 10 of most popular  Chinese  Input  Methods. such  as  CangJi,
     DianBao and WuBiZiXin. and user can create their own methods through a
     provided utility INPUTDIC.EXE.

(4)  Now Support 9pin & 24pin Epson and IBM Compitable Dot  Printer,  Canon
     Bublejet Printer, HP laserjet and Postscrip Printer. user can specify
     the number of pages to be printed.

(5)  Add <DelLX> for delete LianXiang word within NJSTAR.

(6)  AutoSave current file to AUTOSAVE.NJX for possible recovery in case of
     power failure or other unexpected errors. User will be noticed if such
     thing happens.

(7)  Background Color now configurable by NJCONFIG.
     The Cursor can be configured to be Blinking as in text mode.

(8)  Add better method for input Chinese number and Units in PinYin mode.

(9)  Record Macro Can be saved to a file by <SaveMacro>. Macro can be Read
     from file by <ReadMacro> command.

(10)  Marked Block can be Saved to a file by <SaveBlock> Command.

(11) Add <FileList> for Listing  all  the  files  in  the  file  ring,  and
     displaying in a window, Use arrow keys or mouse to move, Enter or Left
     Mouse button to select file for editing or viewing.

(12) Add option -l -x for njstar command line:
     -lfile - Load Macro file "file.NJM" into macro buffer for later execution
     -xfile - Load Macro file "file.NJM" into macro buffer and execute it.
     A utility NJMAC.EXE is provided for converting Macros.

(13) Add Command <Replace> for Replacing without asking. mainly for Macros.

(14) When user is prompted for entering a file name to be  edited.  F1  key
     Can be used to bring up a list in a window of all  the  files  in  the
     current diractory for selection. other diractories and drives can also
     be navigated.

(15) Add a Utility GB24PCX.EXE for Creating PCX file in 24 dot font.

(16) Free RAM requirement is now reduced to 450kb while many commands are
     added.

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From: AG02005%MVS.UNI-C.DK@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Tangram, the unknown Chinese word processor
To: Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@UGA>
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 I read the response about NJSTAR 2.0 and BYX. I think TANGRAM written
 by Chen Zhaoxi in Germany is worthy mentioning. I had a look at a
 Demo version of TANGRAM a few days ago. It has combined advantages of
 NJSTAR 2.0 and BYX 2.0A. I bought BYX 2.0A a year ago. So my experince
 on BYX may not up to date. I read the announcement of NJSTAR 2.0 but
 not yet try it.
 Back to TANGRAM, It is a complete Chinese word processor system.
 cizu input, user adpated input,
 cizu correction, which means you can change different cizu with same
 pinyin any where on GB text with one (combined) F-key. and zi correc
 tion, of cause.
 support all graphic cards,
 support epson 24, ibm pro-printer, hp laser printer,
 output in print files, pcx (high resolution)
 input pcx, tiff files,
 preview
 preview pcx or tif files on line.
 separated print formatting files,
 unlimted gb file size,
 table making
 right paced pinyin letters, and direct input pinyin letter with tones
 high resolution chinese fonts,
 fanti support (font),
 yitizi correction, yitizi correction can be made with one combined F-key
 macros, a lot of switches, even a alarminf clock is included.
 disadvanatges: works slowly (in loading) at least on the demo version.
 maybe because of copyright scheme, I am not sure.
 it costs: demo version 10 DM + handling fee 5-10 DM
           the demo version does not allow saving and print any text.
           the low version costs around 50 DM
           the enhanced version costs 500-600 DM
 The author is of scholar type. He made a great program but he seems
 does't know how to promote his program. He knows the German sinolgist
 group on Chinese word processor. Even he works in computer department,
 he doesn't use email for promotion. I don't think he ven has an email
 account. His system was his master degree work. He studied first, math,
 and phyisics before turned to study computer. The chinese name of his
 system: QI(seven) Qiao (clever) Ban (plate). God knows what it means.
 I hope german nettter can provide us with more details about Chen's
 programs.
 If Chen is willing to allow his demo version stored on ahkcus.org,
 I believe he can benefit a lot from it. Anyway, who can make bit
 big money by 10 DM.
 I hate to see a good program goes unnoticed. So I made this review.
 ps. he uses GB standard.
 guangfan xu

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Subject:      Addrees of author of TANGRAM plus more info
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 TANGRAM: THE UNKOWN CHINESE WORD PROCESSOR, MORE INFO:
 HARDWARE: IBM PC OR COMP. MSDOS >V2.0, GRAPHIC CARDS:VGA,EGA,HERCULES,CGA
 EPSON 24PIN OR HP LASERJET AND COMP.
 SIX INPUT METHODS: INTELLIGENT PINGYIN WITH CIHUI AND LIANXIANG
                    QUWEI, YITIZI, PINYIN LETTER WITH TONES, CASCII, ASCII
 PINYIN INPUT (BLIND TYPING) WITH AUTOMATICAL TRANSLATION,
 ADD, DELETE CIHUI AND LIANXIANG TABLE
 FANGTI/JIANTI DISPLAY
 FIVE TYPEFACES:SONGTI,FANGSONGTI,KAITI,HEITI, AND FANTI
 16 CHARACTER SIZE ON HARDCOPY
 FOUR PARAGRAPH FORMATS: LEFT AND RIGHT FLASH, LEFT FLASH, RIGHT FLASH AND
 CENTRE
 FOUR TABLE FORMATS: LEFT FLASH, RIGHT FLASH, CENTRE, DECIMAL CENTRE
 SEPARATE TYPESETTING FILE
 AUTO-PAGING, FOLLOW RULES OF CHINESE COMMA AND PERIOD
 PREVIEW ON SCREEN BEFORE PRINTING
 AUTOMATIC GERMAN HYPHENATION
 INSERT PCX/TIFF FILES IN CHINESE DOCUMENTS
 MORE TABLE DESIGNING COMMANDS
 CHINESE/GERMAN MANUALS
 CHINESE/ENGLISH/GERMAN ON-LINE HELP AFTER CHOICE
 MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, ZI AND CIZU WITH SAME PINYIN CAN BE CHANGED ANYWHERE
 ON THE GB FILE,
 FONTS CHARACTERISTICS:
 SONGTI 45X48 SONGTI 40X40 SONGTI 24X24
 FANGSONTI 30X40, FANGSONGTI 32X32 FANGSONGTI 24X24
 KAITI 36X40 KAITI 32X32 KAITI 24X24
 HEITI 36X40 HEITI 32X32 HEITI 24X24
 FANTI 24X24
 THE PRINTING PROGRAM HAS ABILITY TO REFINE ROUGH EDGES WHEN LARGE LETTER SIZE
 IS USED. CASCII CAN BE PRINTED BOTH FULL ANGLE AND HALF ANGLE. WHICH MEANS
 THE CASCAII TAKES HALF OR FULL PLACE OF A CORRSPONDING CHINESE CHARACTER.
 CHEN ZHAOXI'S ADDRESS:
 ZHAOXI CHEN
 MARIENSTRABE 16, W-5300 BONN 3,
 GERMANY
 DEMO VERSION DM 10,-
 NORMAL VERSION DM 350,-
 ENHANCED VERSION DM 650,-
 * NORMAL AND ENHANCED VERSIONS REQUESTS POSTAL CHARGE OF DM 5,- FOR USER IN
 GERMANY AND DM10,- FOR OVERSEAS USER.
 STATED WHICH TYPE OF DISKETTE(3,5" HD, 3.5" DD, 5.25" HD OR 5.25" DD)
 PAYMENT FORMS:
 CHECK TRANSFER (ENCL. CHECK)
 BANK CHECK (NOTE) TRANSFER (TO FOLLOWING ACCOUNT)
 POST GIRO ( TO FOLLOWING ACCOUNT)
 ZHAOXI CHEN MARIENSTRABE 16, W-5300 BONN 3
 POSTGIROAMT 6600 SAARBRU(UMLAUT)CKEN, BLZ: 590 100 66
 KONTO-NR.: 976 72-666

 YOUR ADDRESS:(IN BLOCK LETTER OR TYPE IT)
 NAME:
 STREET:
 CITY                       COUNTRY
 PROFESSION:            DATE             SIGNITURE


 ----- I CAN'T FIND HIS TELEPHONE NO. ON THE MANUAL.
 POSTED BY GUANGFAN XU

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From: Qiru Zhou <qzhou%LORELEI.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re. Tangram, the unknown Chinese word processor
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Can you supply more information about how to access Tangram, or where
to buy the SW?

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From: Charles <ma%MAILHOST.CS.PDX.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Help: Wordperfect Chinese Ver.
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Hi, netters:

Is there anybody has some information about Chinese version of Wordperfect,
either in China or US?

The question was raised by one of my friend. He needs to translate some
documents from English into Chinese. The documents are in WP format,
including a lot of graphics. So it's not practical to use another wordprocessor
write the translation and REDRAW those graphics.

The best thing is using a Chinese Wordperfect, load in the original file,
type in Chinese (overwrite the English) and keep the graphics. Better,
modify the comments of the graphics into Chinese. Then, print the file
on a laser printer, make film for printing.

An alternation is to use a Chinese wordprocessor which can handle the
Wordperfect graphics.

The software is expected using on an AT compatible, equipped with
"Lian Xiang" system. However, standard EGA/VGA display is also supported.

Any informatino is appreciated.

I ever posted this request on soc.culture.china, but no response. Looks
like people there were busy on politics.


Charles Ma
ma@cs.pdx.edu

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From: Huijie <CHENH%UCS.INDIANA.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      RE: Tangram, the unknown Chinese word processor
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For those who concern,

]From:	IUGATE::"AG02005%MVS.UNI-C.DK@uga.cc.uga.edu" 13-JAN-1992 08:11:18.90
]Subj:	Tangram, the unknown Chinese word processor
]
]  ... [Lines deleted.]
]
] Back to TANGRAM, It is a complete Chinese word processor system.
]  ...
] it costs: demo version 10 DM + handling fee 5-10 DM
]           the demo version does not allow saving and print any text.
]           the low version costs around 50 DM
]           the enhanced version costs 500-600 DM
] ...
] I believe he can benefit a lot from it. Anyway, who can make bit
] big money by 10 DM.
] ...
] guangfan xu

The lastest exchange rates I can get for DM are as following,

Jan 10, 1992    per/ U.S.$    Pound   D-Mark     Yen    FFranc   SFranc    Lira
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Canada/dollar       1.1524   2.1043   0.7411   0.0092   0.2171   0.8321  0.0010

Germany/d-mark      1.5550   2.8394   1.0000   0.0124   0.2930   1.1227  0.0013


Huijie
======

From CCNET-L@uga.cc.uga.edu Tue Jan 14 16:59:19 1992
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From: Qiru Zhou <qzhou%LORELEI.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re.  Help: Wordperfect Chinese Ver.
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Charles Ma of cs.pdx.edu wrote:
>Is there anybody has some information about Chinese version of Wordperfect,
>either in China or US?
>......
I did not heard anybody talking about Chinese version of WP. But WP for Windows
may input Chinese under CWIN. There are translation programs which can translate
WP graphics into other graphics format which can be recognized by Chinese WP.
The third possibility is to use PageMaker 4.0 with Chinese language option,
it handles many graphics and text format. The problem is that there is no
cheap or easy solution for your problem as far as I know. The softwares above
all over $300 in price and you have to try a great deal to find how to handle
them.
If your friend can access a Macintosh, this problem will be easy to solve. In
that case, you can convert PC WP file(s) into Mac WP file(s) (to other WP files
may cause loss your figures in the file, like WP to MS Word). Then use a
Chinese system compatible word processor under a Mac Chinese system.

I have no knowledge if Lian_Xiang system support any of the GUI software, like
MS Window 3.0.




Qiru Zhou
Dept. of ECE
Drexel University
Philadelphia Pennsylvania
USA

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From: Ping-Yi Chu <IKD2PYC%MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      tienma and et file transfer
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Does anyone know how to convert a et file to a tienma file?  If you know the
answer, please tell me.  Thank you a million.

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According to the brochure for XinTianMa (the new version of TianMa):

 New Features Introduced in This Release:
 o ...
 o Import/Export capability: interchange of ASCII files, GB and Big5 files
 o ...

So it sounds like you could make use of this conversion feature, if you
can find someone with XinTianMa.

- Carlos

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From: Carlos McEvilly <MOEG013%TWNMOE10.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      XinTianMa
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Here is some of the information from the XinTianMa brochure I mentioned
in a previous post, abstracted without permission; I'm sure they won't
mind :-)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Features:
 o Text entry in continuous Pinyin, Bopomofo, or by stroke/Radical data
 o On-line user-definable dictionary
 o High quality printout up to 64x64 pixel characters
 o Ability to mix Chinese and Roman text
 o Support of both classical and simplified characters
 o Accurate, automatic simplified/classical conversion
 o Full-featured word processing program
 o Prints on HP Laserjet, Deskjet and compatibles, and all common dot
   matrix printers
 o Supports Herculese, EGA, and VGA graphics systems
New Features This Release
 o Ability to mix classical and simplified character text in the same file
 o Mix different fonts and font sizes in the same file
 o No ROM card necessary: fits laptops and the PS/2 Microchannel machinese
 o Import/Export capability: interchange of ASCII files, GB and Big5 files
 o Supports Super VGA graphics system 800x600; Canon BJ printer
Print fonts included in basic package:
 o font sizes 16x16 to 64x64, scalable in steps of 8 pixels, Fangsongti
   and Kaiti
 o proportional and non-proportional Roman fonts in matching sizes
Price:
 US$695.00 including Federal Express Shipment; upgrade users US$395.
 Information:
      AsiaCom Inc.
      1117 Ste-Catherine West, Suite 606, Montreal, Qc, Canada H3B 1H9
      Phone: (514) 434-9373   Fax: (514) 434-9374
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I haven't used XinTianMa, only seen it demonstrated.  It looked good, but
the price wasn't compatible with my budget; ETen and Kuo Chiao fit that
better :-).

Carlos McEvilly  moeg013@twnmoe10.bitnet

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From: Val Luck <VALUCK%UCDAVIS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      xintianma
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I have had a chance to use this "xin tian ma" and frankly I am dissapointed.
Before anyone actually shells out $700 for it, first use it and make sure
that it is what you want.

I found that that "self converting pinyin->hanzi" not to be all it is cracked
up to be.  It was not that fast running on a 25mhz 386 (maybe it wasn't
correctly using the extra memory) and not always correct.  When it did work,
it was nice to have it convert by itself, but when it didn't work you had to
move the cursor back and select change, then select the new character and then
move forward again, so even though you don't have to select every word, you
still have to read what you type as you type it, and when you do have to make
a change it is not all that quick.

>Features:

> o High quality printout up to 64x64 pixel characters
It does print out up to 64x64 pixels, but you cannot control the size of the
output well.  If you don't want huge characters, then you don't get 64x64
matricies printed out.  I am speaking for the dot matrix output; perhaps the
laser printer output is better.

> o Accurate, automatic simplified/classical conversion
Conversion from simplified to classical is not always accurate.

> o Full-featured word processing program
It is *not* a full-features word processing system.  It lacks most commands
that I would say are needed to be called full-featured, and the commands it
does support are awkward to use (underline, bold.)

>New Features This Release
> o Mix different fonts and font sizes in the same file
Again, this is tedious and time consuming to change fonts and or sizes.  You
can not tell what size the characters are on the screen unless you are in the
psuedo print-preview mode which does nothing more than give you the accurate
sizes of the fonts; there is no "page preview".  You have no idea what will
actually be where.

>Price:
> US$695.00 including Federal Express Shipment; upgrade users US$395.
Just a little too expensive.

*** Please note that this is just my opinion.  I was "psyked" up to use the
great revolutionary chinese word processor (something line chinese wordstar?
chinese wordperfect? chinese word for windows?)  But what it came with came
nowhere close.  This is not to say that you will might not like it; by all
means give it a try.  Just be warned that it is not all it is advertised to
be.

I hope in the future software writers will try to write programs up to their
specifications (er, advertisements) or write advertisements for their program.
Perhaps someday we could have a program that delivers what was promised with
xintianma.

--Val Luck

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> Can Chinese characters are entered into WP graphics (F9 mode)?

In graph mode, WP cannot display chinese characters. But in text
mode it does. It can also input and save, though it can't clear
screen while typing backspace.


>From XUP@jii.afrc.ac.uk Tue Feb 25 21:42:42 1992
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>Date: Tue, 25 Feb 92 10:10 GMT
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>
>Hello,
>
>
>>Hi,
>
>>     I discover WordPerfect 5.1 can display chinese characters based on
>>CCBIOS 2.13H, I need the driver for 9P printer. Does anybody help?
>
>Can you tell me where to get CCBIOS 2.13H please?
>
>Xu Pin

ftp 128.252.135.4
directory: pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS
file: CCBIOS.LZH

Enjoy it.

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After reading that WP worked with CCBIOS 2.13h, I thought that just for
fun I would see what happens with the Japanese DOS/V System, which I run
"underneath" my regular system (that is, it loads every time that I boot
my system, dos 5.0, but in the autoexec.bat I always flip it immediately
into the "us" mode with the change environment command and usually leave
it in the us mode for all of my work). I switched over to the Japanese mode
with the chev command, loaded up WordPerfect 5.0, and voila! it worked fine.
I don't have a printer on this machine, though, so I don't know how that
will work.

Does anybody have info on printers and DOS/V? Thanks, Jamie.

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Status: RO

> >>     I discover WordPerfect 5.1 can display chinese characters based on
> >>CCBIOS 2.13H, I need the driver for 9P printer. Does anybody help?
> >
> >Can you tell me where to get CCBIOS 2.13H please?
> >
> >Xu Pin
>
> ftp 128.252.135.4
> directory: pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS
> file: CCBIOS.LZH
>
> Enjoy it.

Hey, I unfortunately did not find the file ccbios.lzh in the said
directory. Do you have another location where I can find it? Thank
you.

-- Kang

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Hi,

     I discover WordPerfect 5.1 can display chinese characters based on
CCBIOS 2.13H, I need the driver for 9P printer. Does anybody help?

From CCNET-L@uga.cc.uga.edu Sun Mar  1 02:21:04 1992
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From: Zhao Xin <zhaoxin@CONVEX.CSD.UWM.EDU>
Subject:      DISPLAYING CHINESE IN WP51
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Jim Wang writes:
 > Hi everybody,
 >
 > I forget who said that he/she discovered wp51 can display chinese with
 > 2.13H installed, I'd like to know how.  Could anybody remember who claimed
 > that?  If you did, could you tell me how?
 >
 > I am sorry to have bothered most of you unnecessarily.
 >
 > Jim Wang
 > e-mail:  zwang2@ualtavm.bitnet
 >     or:  zwang2@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca


Somebody found out it.  I tried and it works.  You can load CCBIOS
2.13H before loading WP51.  Please choose 25/26 line mode (for
example, cv26, if you have a VGA card and monitor).

After you have 2.13h loaded, you shouln't have problem in display/edit
Chinese text using WP51.  Make sure you setup your text type to
'auto-select' (by SETUP, DISPLAY, TEXT TYPE).

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Yuyan Wang writes:
 > Dear CCNETTER,
 >
 > Unfortunately ccbios.lzh I ftpped from 128.252.135.4 is corrupted (Yes I did
 > set binary mode). Does anyone out there have any idea?
 >
 > Thank you very much.


I had the same problem.  I used LHARC but failed.  Thank you for any help.

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Hi folks,
        Yes, there are bugs in ccbios.lzh (from 128.252.135.4). After
decoding, I got partial instruction of ccbios 2.13h in Chinese.

Jinghua Yang

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>Date:     Fri, 28 Feb 1992 03:52:22 -0500
>From:     YE HONGYI <f0207027@qcunix.acc.qc.edu>
>Subject:  about ccbios.lzh
>To:       Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>
>Reply-to: YE HONGYI <f0207027@qcunix.acc.qc.edu>
>Comments: To: ccnet-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

>Could anybody tell me why the file on account is bigger than on PC? The file
>ccbios.lzh on my PC has a size of 244151. I upload it again while I heard
>someone failed to unpack it. I tried download it too. But I'm too lazy to
>wait the transfer finish. I unpack the file. What I get are, *.com are good,
>they can run; HZK16 has CRC error because it's not finished transferring. My
>conclusion is it should be okey at this time, otherwise I have no idea. And,
>the software that I use is LHARC.EXE.

>Hongyi

Well, Hongyi,
             You've messed up the posting again. The CRC sums on ccbios.lzh do
 not check. Has anybody got a flame thrower?

CHY

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Hi, netters!

Somebody posted CCBIOS 2.13H a couple days ago. It seems that nobody
had luck to decompress the files from the .LZH file.  I don't remember
who is the poster.  Could you re-post it again so that other could
really 'enjoy' it?

I have a copy of CCBIOS 2.13H on my PC (I got it from a friend).  As I
understand, it is not a free/share-ware.  So I don't know if it is
proper to post it on the network for anonymous ftp.  Can anyone tell
me about this?  The reason I asked is because some netters asked me to
post my copy to a anonymous ftp site.

Thank you for your help.

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To see Chinese characters displayed on my monitor is a most fascinating
thing to me.  To study its programming is even more interesting.
There have been some public software source codes available, but they
are usually too big or lack of documentation for a beginner.  I would like to
request for some very simple programs just to display Chinese characters and
 maybe with some very simple editing abilities.  Such programs would be
 beneficial
especially to beginners of Chinese computing.  I just think that
one of the goals of this Chinese network is to promote this kind of
Chinese computing, so here is my request.

(1) A program to display the Chinese characters in a matrix (table form) which
    is composed of Chinese consonants (21 each) and 16 vowels plus [er] in
    the first tone only. It is more or less like a spreadsheet of all the
    possible Chinese sounds. The frame is labeled with phonetic symbols which
    should include pinyin and/or bpmf etc.  An option to choose one of them
    would be nice.
    This program is going to involve all the basic Chinese programming.
    Its output chart is also educational to the Chinese language study.

(2) Above program with the ability to show characters with all the 4 tones.
    Users should be able to enter the sounds (phonetic symbols) with the help
    of the above chart and a tone, and then the character(s) are going to
    display. This with interface with the mouse control and being able to pick
    the sounds and tones from the syllable chart would be even better.

(3) A very simple editor with input method using the above syllable
    chart.  I think this program without any modification would be
    very beneficial for students here learning Chinese.

Well I have been carried away too far, I do wish I would see some
of this kind of programming available to the public.  I will collect,
organize and re-post them.

Happy Chinese Computing !

Kam Mok
kam@inmet.camb.inmet.com

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Hi,

To print a page of Chinese text in wp51:

1, use njstar20 to convert gb file to pcx file, save the file as
   c:\chinese\try.pcx
2, in wp51:
   a), alt-F9
   b), figure
   c), create
   d), filename:   c:\chinese\try.pcx
   e), size: 6" X 9"
   then print:
   shift-F7, page

The printing quality is not so superb, but by using this method you can
edit English text on a Chinese file.

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A few days ago , I posted a mail requesting Chinese PostScript programme .
Thanx to those who replied . The answers seems to fall in following two
catagories ...

1.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
there a few of such softwares which convert chinese GB files to
PostScript, such as: hz2ps, gb2ps, etc.

You can find them at ftp site: ahkcus.org,   under directory
src/unix.
2.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. J.B. Wang's ChTeX package can do that.  I believe it's in ahkcus.org
and several other ftp sites.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried both . The gb2ps seemed to be working . In fact , I even managed to
compile and use it under DOS . But the ChTeX , which was used to be on
ahkcus.org seems have disapeared . So I wasn't able to test it .

As for the question of Chinese Desktop Publishing , I have found that it can
be done rather neatly by using a Chinese PostScript generating programme ,
then use PageMaker , Ventura or Corel Draw to finish the job .

So the central problem seems to be -- Is there a programme that can generate
PostScript Chinese file WITH NEAT FONTS (Sizing is not important)? GB2PS can
only generate Fong Song and the quality of the character generated is
questionable .

So , the big question is --> Does anyone know of any programme that have a
variety of fonts (e.g. Fong Song , Song , Kai Ti , Sou Xie) to chose from --
Even it's commecial software , as long as it's not priced rediculously , I
will be much appreciated to heard about it .

Thanx to those of you who are concerned .

Please reply to "zeng@ecf.toronto.edu"

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Hi!

I was just asked about possible ways to add Chinese characters to
WordPerfect (5.1 or Windows) documents. As I usually avoid touching
MS-DOS machines, I forward this question to CCNET and ZHONGWEN.
Any suggestions?

Thanx in advance!

	Hartmut
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        For anyone who's interested, at the Association for Asian
Studies annual meeting, held last weekend in Washington, there was a
program on display developed by Steven Michaud in Chicago, called
HanWord, which puts characters into WordPerfect 5.1.  He's shipping it
on 13 April, so I can't vouch for its utility, but the demo looked
like the answer to many prayers.....  Characters are treated as
graphics boxes, and can be displayed on the screen.  Michaud's coding
system (which I do not now even pretend to understand) also will
permit searches for a specific character.  Printing on a machine that
can handle graphics appears fairly straight-forward.

        Michaud can be reached c/o Acme Software, Box 37-8416, Chicago
IL 60637 (the BITNET address he gave me does not seem to connect...)
He's charging $125 for the program.

        For what it's worth, I've been experimenting for quite a while
with TianMa (both TianMa II & Xin Tianma).  This involves writing
documents in WP, saving them in ASCII, then importing them into
TianMa.  The glory of this particular program is its 'automatic
conversion' abilities; with a user-defined dictionary specified,
conversion to Hanzi is error-free.  But, there's a lot of
awkwardness..

        Anybody else using TianMa out there?  Anybody interested in
hearing about the trials and tribulations of a fanatic but isolated
user?  I'm willing to type some stuff up, but only upon demand....


                        Howard Spendelow
                        Department of History
                        Georgetown University

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/* on sunyab.mlists.ccnet-l Deming said: */
:You can use gb2pcx to convert GB file to PCX file first and then to CGM
:oe EPS using programs like GraphWorks (PD) or Hijaak (Commercial).
:The problem is that the PD version of GB2PCX can only use the 16x16
:font library.  If you want the one does 24x24, register for NJSTAR 2.1
:by Ni, Hongbo.  You can also dump the laserjet output (say using XLBR)
:to a file and then convert it using Hijaak.  It may work well with
:single page but I doubt with multiple pages though.

Alternatively one can first convert GB to PostScript (gb2ps for example)
and then convert PostScript to other formats that Ghostscript supports,
for example PCL.

On a related note:

I have posted one message on this net and a few messages to HXWZ group
about Ghostscript. There is one point that I did not emphasize, which
is Ghostscript supports different printers connected with different
computers running different operating systems. [ But my experience is
only limited to HP laserjet connected with a PC running msdos. ]

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/* on sunyab.mlists.ccnet-l Deming said: */
:You can use gb2pcx to convert GB file to PCX file first and then to CGM
:oe EPS using programs like GraphWorks (PD) or Hijaak (Commercial).
:The problem is that the PD version of GB2PCX can only use the 16x16
:font library.  If you want the one does 24x24, register for NJSTAR 2.1
:by Ni, Hongbo.  You can also dump the laserjet output (say using XLBR)
:to a file and then convert it using Hijaak.  It may work well with
:single page but I doubt with multiple pages though.

Alternatively one can first convert GB to PostScript (gb2ps for example)
and then convert PostScript to other formats that Ghostscript supports,
for example PCL.

On a related note:

I have posted one message on this net and a few messages to HXWZ group
about Ghostscript. There is one point that I did not emphasize, which
is Ghostscript supports different printers connected with different
computers running different operating systems. [ But my experience is
only limited to HP laserjet connected with a PC running msdos. ]

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Dear Netters:

     I have just bought a basic TOPFONTS package for 99 Cdn
Dollars. From my experience, I cannot disagree what an earlier
netter's comment about the product.

     But I would like to point out that despite all kinds of
imperfection of the product, it is still a very productive
tool for Chinese DTP. (Of course you have to have a 486 to be
really productive. ;-)  )

     What I like this product is its flexiblity of working with
various English fonts and graphics.

     You can arguably maintain that XLBR and NJSTAR's types are
more "beautiful" than TOPFONTS', but it is more or less a
subjective matter, isn't it?

     This is not meant to be a flame. Have a nice weekend.

Haizi

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Re: ETIN vs. TOPFONTS

usersp45@mtsgubc.bitnet wrote,

>     What I like this product is its flexiblity of working with
>various English fonts and graphics.

ETIN basic system can do it beautifully and only cost $79.

userffao@mtsgubc.bitnet

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ChyTeX.tar.Z is available at crl.nmsu.edu, under /incoming or
/pub/chinese.

Many thanks for those pushing me to do this:-)

Bo Yang
-----------------------------

ChyTeX package provides a modified UNIX version of Wang, Jinbai's
ChTeX 1.1 Chinese Text Processing program. It adds to it
the ability of handling different Chinese font styles, like
Hei1 Ti3, Kai3 Ti3, etc. With the newly released public
domin 24*24 cclib style fonts by Wu, Zhibiao( cc2tex),
you will be able to print TeX, Wordstar, Troff formatted Chinese
text on Postscipt printers with different font styles.

First you have to download ChTeX 1.1 package( Look into
crl.nmsu.edu under /pub/chinese). On top of that, this chytex
package gives you modified version of Makefile,  chytex.c,  WSytroff.c.

a target 'chytex' was added to Makefile, and environmental
viriables : CCLIB24kt, CCLIB24ht, CCLIB24fs, corresponding
to Kai Ti, Hei Ti, Song Ti, and should be pointed to diffrent
cclibs.

--Usage--:

chytex only works with TeX, LaTeX and WS-troff. And there's no draft(16x16) or
final(48x48) versions.

WStroff( chytex -w) new control sequences:

.FCst : (default) SongTi font.
.FCfs : FangSongTi font.
.FCkt : KaiTi font
.FCht : HeiTi font
.FCft : FanTi font
notice now you can also use traditional and simplified Chinese in the same
document.

TeX, LaTeX (chytex) new definations:

\FCst : (default) SongTi font.
\FCfs : FangSongTi font.
\FCkt : KaiTi font
\FCht : HeiTi font
\FCft : FanTi font

-- NOT INCLUDED --

This package only works with UNIX. DOS and VMS modifications are not done.
Someone might want give this a shot.

-- OTHERS --

ChTeX is copyrighted by Wang, Jinbai. This ChyTeX package is a viriation of
original ChTeX, it follows the same copyright regulations of ChTeX.

Questions about chytex should be directed to:

  Yang, Bo
  eric@coeus.ucsd.edu

I'm not responsible for original ChTeX. Please :-)

5/22/92

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Had a glimps of the desktop publishing and wordprocessing
product by Beijing University New Technology Corp. the
other day.  I don't know it much to recommend anything,
but you may like to know that such a product exists.

It consists of 3 products.
1) Super-CCDOS 5.1 System.
2) WPS, word processing supporting most of many input methods popular in China.
3) Super Star desktop publishing.  It supports popular
(HP and Cannon) scanners and laser printers.  The strong
point is its scalible fonts which can be shrinked,
stretched or wrapped over an arc.  There are over 10
types and styles.  The fonts have rough edges though,
not as polished as those from BrushWriter.

The main distributer is Hong Kong Kingsun Computer Co.,
LTD, in Hong Kong
(I don't know how to translate in HOng Kong address
into English)
Tel: 7863877, Fax: 7457522

It has offices in mainland China:
Beijing, HaiDian
Tel 8316522, 890121-292, Fax 8316522

ShenZhen
255415-2908, BP 182 call 1906

ZhuHai
884025, Fax 884968

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 I was asked to forward the following message. It looks interesting.
 R. Lee.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------
 Message: 2369927, Posted: 9:53pm PDT, Mon Aug 6/90, 19 lines
 To: zhong_hua@cs.ubc.ca
 From: dongqing wei
 Subject: TOPFONTS from TOP CompuTech

 Hello everybody!
 Exciting news for Chinese Desktop Publishing.
 TOP CompuTech in Vancouver, B.C. has recently developed a new set of
 Chinese Postscript Fonts that will deliver the highest resolution in
 printing.  Chinese characters now have a new look,  thanks to the
 technolopy developed by TOP CompuTech. This is the very first Post-
 script Chinese font in the world.
 Chinese Postscript Fonts are ideal for design, high quality typeset-
 ting and printing.  It works with many word composition programs and
 graphics softwares under MS Window.  With CorelDraw, for instance,
 TopFonts will export files to CorelDraw and then be edited and
 reshaped in the CorelDraw environment.  The output? Wow!!! Just looks
 B E A U T I F U L !!!
 TopFonts have Four Types. They are Song, FangSong, Heti and Kaiti.
 For further information about this new product, please call (604)
 682-5485, ask Ray Wei.  We'll be happy to talk to you.
 TOP CompuTech, is organizing trainning class too. For those who want
 to learn a new tool, or to have a brave new experience, we are just
 as close as your phone. So give us call.

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From:	PRISM::WINS%"<kuan%prism.decnet@ucs.indiana.edu>"  7-AUG-1990 16:26:54.15
To:	PRISM::YAWEI
CC:
Subj:	RE: EasyWord --

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Subject: RE: EasyWord --
To: "yawei" <yawei%prism.decnet@ucs.indiana.edu>

Here it is:
__________
EasyWord Chinese Input System

The world's easiest system for inputting Chinese to the computer! (they
claim :) )

Even children, the elderly, and other people who know nothing about
computers can learn to use this input system within minutes to write
letters and prepare business documents.

The input technique is designed to use only 8 keys to enter the strokes of
characters in the same sequence as one would write them. By using one hand
typing on the numeric keypad and the latest intelligence technology to
minimize the user's efforts, the majority of the most common characters can
be retrieved with 1 or 2 key strokes. More than 300 characters can be
retrieved with only 1 stroke.

Quickly teaches children and languages students to master the correct
stroke order of characters and use the computer to communicate in Chinese.

Available in two versions: Elementary level ES2500 with the most frequently
used 2,500 characters, and professional level ES13000 with 13,054
characters.

System Requirements

- IBM Personal Computer or compatible with MS-DOS Ver. 3.0 or later
versions, with 101 keyboard
- 640 Kb RAM, 360 Kb floppy disk drive
- High resolution or mono-graphics (e.g. Hercules) or EGA or VGA monitor
- 9 or 24 pin printer (Star or Epson compatible), or laser printer (Hewlett
Packard LaserJet or compatible).

* EasyWord ES13000 requires a hard disk with 3 MB of disk space

ES2500 comes complete with

- A manual in Chinese and English with clear instructions and the EasyWord
stroke order distionary for the 2,500 most frequently used characters
- Two 360 Kb floppy discs with EasyWord program
- Eight stick-on label for the fundamental key strokes

ES13000 comes complete with

- A user guide and a manual containing a stroke order dictionary of 13,054
characters
- Stick-on labels for 89 or 101 keys
- A set of 360 Kb floppy discs containing the EasyWord program, 13,054
character library and word processing program.

* Software driver to use the EasyWord Input Method with ETen Chinese input
system is also available as an option.

_____To promote Chinese education in North America, ICSA offer 10%
_____discount to all orders of more than 10 copies from Chinese
_____schools, educational institutions and societies, and conference
_____participants.

__________Original Message__________
From:	PRISM::WINS%"<yawei%prism.decnet@ucs.indiana.edu>"  6-AUG-1990 17:30:57.12
To:	PRISM::KUAN
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Subject: RE: EasyWord --
To: "kuan" <kuan%prism.decnet@ucs.indiana.edu>


If you want, I will try to ready the version I have to let you copy
from my VAX account -- probably some time before the weekend -- it's
final week, you know. This is a shareware and you can send $8 to the
author after you used it and like it.

yagui

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From:	PRISM::KUAN         "SonCheong Kuan" 15-AUG-1990 17:18:02.18
To:	@[.DIS]EZ.DIS
CC:	KUAN
Subj:	Info about EasyWord --

To whom it may concern,

Thank you for your inquiry about EasyWord! Please note that I am neither a
dealer or wholeseller.

Recently, I wrote a letter to Dr. C. N. Liu from IBM Research Center and
asked him if he knew any type of Chinese Word Processing (I received his
name and address from one of the USENET news groups). So he gave me a reply
along with information about EasyWord.

The company/organization which wrote/market EasyWord is based in Montreal,
Quebec, Canada. They claim that EasyWord is the most easist Chinese Word
Processing/Input System :) I haven't had a chance to get one yet, so I
haven't tested it yet. But I know a little bit about ETen - a Chinese Input
System and it is supposed to be very easy to use. Here is some pricing
information:

EasyWord ES2500

Quantity	Price Per Copy		Shipping and
Ordered		in US $			Handling Per Copy

1 - 9		$37.00			$6.00
10 - 49		$35.00			$4.00
50 - 99		$32.00			$4.00
100+		Contact ICSA for Dealer Prices

Each copy includes:
	EasyWord User Manual, 8 stick on symbols for numeric keypad
	2 DS/DD Floppy Diskettes for Traditional or Simplified Characters

EasyWord ES13000

Quantity	Price Per Copy		Shipping and
Ordered		in US $			Handling Per Copy

1 - 9		$139.00			$10.00
10 - 49		$129.00			$8.00
50+		Contact ICSA for Dealer Prices

Each copy includes:
	EasyWord Dictionary for 13,054 characters
	7 DS/DD Floppy Diskettes for Traditional and Simplified Characters
	Stick on Symbols for 101 keyboard

Optional:
	ETEN Driver, to use EasyWord Input Method in ETEN System
	Add US$39.00 per copy (plus US$4.00 handling if ordered separately)

EDUCATIONAL PROMOTION

	To promote Chinese education in North America, a 10% discount is
	offered on the per copy price for all orders of more than 10
	copies received from Chinese schools, educational institutes
	and associations. Organization's letterhead is adequate proof
	to qualify for discount.

UPGRADE PROMOTION

	EasyWord ES13000 with 13,054 Chinese characters will be available
	to buyers of EasyWord ES2500 for an upgrade price of $99.00 plus
	$8.00 shipping and handling.

Contact:		ICSA
			P.O. Box 1555, Station "H"
			Montreal, Quebec H3G 2N5
			Canada

Hurry up! Don't miss the summer heat! Prices valid from July 1 to August
30, 1990 only.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
SonCheong Kuan				kuan@ucs.indiana.edu
Software Specialist III			kuan@iucs.cs.indiana.edu
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For your information, there are other dealers/distributors of Easyword.
Pacific Rim Connections, 3030 Atwater Drive, Burlingame, CA 94010
(415)697-0911, for example.  Pacific Rim Connections carries the latest
version of Easyword, just upgraded, and several other packages, including
Brushwriter, TianMa, ET, postscript Chinese charaters for typesetting on
GB codes, Readypage typesetting, etc.
Pacrim also handles Japanese, Korean, Devanagari, Tibetan, etc.
FAX# is (415)697-9439

Jim Caldwell

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Subject:      PC and Chinese System
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Hi everyone:





   This message is for those who own MS-DOS machines.



   I have seen many of you on the list are interested at running

Chinese system on you PC.  I live in the United States and learn

most of the Chinese system and its related products information

from reading magazines published in Taiwan.



   I believe there are many able persons who can also provide

you the information I am going to post on the list.  Hope some of

you can jumping in and share what you know.



   I choose PC over Mac for my Chinese needs are because:

     1) you get more supports on PC.  There are many PC Chinese

        products but few Mac's available.

     2) The software prices are cheaper than Mac softwares.

     3) PC hardwares are cheaper too.  Compared with Mac systems.









MAGAZINE:



   Subscribe magazines from Taiwan is expensive.  What you could do

is to ask someone who live in East or West cost.  Ask him to go to

the Chinese book store and get few issues for you.  US $5.00 - US

$7.00 per magazine.  Pictures worth thousand words.  After you seen

those ads in the magazines, you will know what are available.



   Just like its English version, Chinese edition of PC MAGAZINE is

full of ads, and product reviews.  Other magazine titles are

PC WORLD CHINESE EDITION, THIRD WAVE etc..



   If you want quality articles, try INFORMATION AND COMPUTER.

It is published by Institute for Information Industry.  Each issue

is full of articles. In my opion, INFORMATION AND COMPUTER is

equivalent to BYTE. (It cost US $102.00 per year)









CHINESE SYSTEMS:



   If you are running DOS, try ET Chinese system.  I have tried few

other Chinese systems (KC, 01, Rainbow and Dragon) but ET appears

to be the best so far.



   New ETEN floppy #4 is a excellent product.



   1) It is cheap. US $50 - $80, depend on where do you buy it.

   2) Need a hard disk, but use less than 200K system RAM.

   3) Come with three fonts.  Very nice print out on DM printer.

   4) Network support.

   5) Works on Hercules, EGA and VGA.

   6) Works will with many English softwares.  I have tried ET with

      dBASE III+, QuickBasic V40, Quick C V2, QCAL, PCwrite etc...

      with out any patches.  Of course, it works with Lotus,

      Autocad etc.. with patches.

   7) It comes with many utilities.  Make your own words.  Convert

      internal codes between different standards.

   8) Super printer support.  Create nice print out. Size, Shape...

   9) Color

  10) Come with six input methods.

  11) Very good user menu.

  12) Can display 24X24 fonts on screen. Use programming languages.





   On my system, I have two monitors.  One is a VGA, another is a

Hercules.  Because some software won't run on new ET, that I have to

swithc monitor to run these softwares with my old  Hercules ET

system.  You can use DOS command 'mode mono', 'mode co80' to swith

between monitors.





   If you have plenty money to spend, there is a new Chinese UNIX

available from Institute for Information Industry.  It is a true

Chinese UNIX.  It thinks like Chinese.  With a Chinese X Window, you

can run any English X Window softwares as it was written for Chinese.

I am saving my money for this.







QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:



> I have rarely seen other kinds of Chinese Computing application

> software, such as, spreadsheet, database, graphics.

> can you tell me a little bit of them?



  Almost any thing you can find on US market for English users, you can

find simulate products for Chinese user running under Chinese system.

  For examples, Hotest Window 3.0 will be available for Chinese users

shortly.

  Actually you don't really need Chinese version of word processor or

spreadsheet programs.  As you know, there are many PD softwares in

the US.  Many of them can work with Chinese system.  However, for

graphic needs, you must get a graphic package that is written with

Chinese system in mine.  I have created few dBase database with

Chinese system running.  It run beautifully.





> Another simple question: I had a ET runing on Mono, how can I install

> it on my new VGA 80286 computer? And also, CCDOS likes CGA only, can

> you run it on EGA/VGA?



  You need a new ET.  Or you may try to set up your VGA to emulate

Hercules mode.  With my VGA system, it comes with a utility allows

me to set modes.





> I am a chinese student in Switzerland. I have seen your interesting

> posting on CCN about the Chinese systems on IBM PC-AT's. I just bought

> an AT 386 at would like to have a practical chinese text processing

> system on it.



  I have to ask you: where did you come from.  I just realized that

ET is best for those who came from Taiwan.  If you came from other

region, ET's input methods might not be the best for you.



  If you know Chinese well, you might be able to learn input Chinese

in few monthes.  If you know Taiwan's BoPoMoFo, it might get you

started in few weeks.  The most difficulty for my friends to use

Chinese system is that they don't want to learn how to input Chinese.

It take time to memorize keyboard layout.  Or memorize rules on

some of the methods that are faster than BoPoMoFo method.



  Once you have mastered the input method(s), Produce Chinese will be

very easy and very enjoyable.



  I don't know if ET will work with Laserjet or not?  I have to try

it myself.



  I believe an ET #4 system is all you need.  It costs less than

US $80.  You can use it with many PD English word processors.

If you program, you can create graphic with Chinese text and print

it out.  It works very good for posters. (For Chinese Student

Association)







> if you know off-hand the configuration, price and location of vendors

> any where in U.S.A. and let me know I'd be appreciated. Thank you.





  I think Mr. Lin-Chow who is also on the list can answer this question.

He just got a new ET system few days ago.  (I got mine from Taiwan)







  Mr. Lin-Chow, feel free to jumping in on this one.  Please!





     John Kou     Oklahoma Is OK    USA

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Status: RO

Here is the answer to one of the questions posted by John yesterday :

    You can get E-Ten from

       Pacific Rim Connection
       3030 Atwater Drive
       Burlingame, CA  94010
       (415)-697-0911

     They sell E-Ten #4 for $88.00 and another $5.00 for UPS Next Day Shipping.
The service is reasonable but they don't not have any software return policy,
you bought it... is yours ....  Probably there are other places that sell it
for a cheaper price, might want to look around.

     BTW,
           Does anyone know if I can mail subscribe any Chinese Computing
magazines  from the bookstores in U.S (may be World Journal Bookstore?).


Lin-Chow

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	In response to the request of a number of netters, a demo version
of CWP 1.1 has been created. It has a rather small document size, but
everything else remains the same as the regular version. You may get a
copy of it at the following address by sending in $5.00 to cover the cost 
of the postage, the diskets and the disket mailer.

				Benjamin Ao
				Department of Linguistics
				The Ohio State University
                                1841 Millikin Rd., Rm. 204
                                Columbus, Ohio 43210-1229

Following is a repost of a description of CWP 1.1 for your reference.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

                     CWP Version 1.1 Released
 
     The recently released Chinese word-processor CWP version 1.0
has been upgraded to version 1.1. The new version preserves all the
nice features of version 1.0, with additional features that
     1) support both traditional and simplified characters and can
convert the entire text from traditional to simplified characters
or vice versa within seconds at one keystroke, and  
     2) support a DOS shell that allows you to use DOS commands,
run smaller programs and even check your e-mail in the middle of
your word-processing job.
     All the known bugs in version 1.0 have also been cleared.
     The price of CWP 1.1 remains at $20.00 per copy. Those who
have purchased version 1.0 can upgrade their program free of charge
by simply sending back the diskets.
     For those who missed the introduction to CWP 1.0, here is a
list of its features and limitations:
1.   HARDWARE REQUIREMENT:
a.   An IBM PC or PC-compatible, with a harddrive and at least 500K
     available RAM space.
b.   A color or monochrome monitor, with a VGA, EGA, CGA, Hercules,
     AT&T, IBM8514 or PC3270 graphics card.
c.   A 9-pin or 24-pin EPSON or EPSON-compatible dotmatrix printer.
2.   INPUTTING METHOD:
     Pinyin, with optional simplifications.
3.   OUTPUT FORMAT:
a.   Binary or ASCII files on diskets, with the ASCII files in
     either GB code or in CWP pinyin code.
b.   Hardcopies in one of nine fonts differing in size, shape
     and/or density.
4.   ADVANTAGES:
a.   Easy and fast retrieval of characters, with a guaranteed
     average of 3.4 or less keystrokes per character.
b.   Potential for blind-typing of over 90% of a Chinese text.
c.   Automatic translation of Chinese texts into CWP pinyin code
     or vice versa. The readable CWP code makes it possible to read
     Chinese messages character by character (in alphabetic form)
     on SCC or e-mail, or to transmit Chinese texts through e-mail.
d.   Nice blending of English and Chinese texts, with word-wrapping
     at the end of a line and justified spacing in printing.
e.   Comprehensive and easy-to-use editing functions, including
     move to head/end of line/page/text, block move/copy/delete,
     forward/backward search, search-and-replace with/without
     confirm, etc.
f.   On-line help;
g.   No effect on the DOS system during or after execution.
5.   LIMITATIONS:
a.	Laser printers and deskjets not supported.
b.	Functions such as flush center/right, adjust top/bottom/left/
     right margins, create and edit headers/footers/footnotes/
     endnotes, column operations, etc., not supported.
c.   Text format change in fonts, linespacing, page numbering etc,
     not possible in the middle of a text.
 
     Anyone interested in CWP version 1.1 may send your check and
order to the address at the end of this message. You will receive
two floppy diskets, along with instructions for installation.
     Should there be any problems that make the program unusable,
please notify the author. If they are caused by errors in the
program, you will receive a new copy of the program void of the
errors and free of charge. Suggestions for improvement are always
welcome. For more information, please call (614)293-9417.
 


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The address for the Duke Chinese Typist is:
     2111 Campus Drive
     Duke University
     Durham, NC  27706

The newer version hasn't come out yet as far as I know.  The current
version needs an EGA to run, and will only print well on certain
kinds of printers - both of these limitations will supposedly be 
fixed whenever the newer version comes out.  

From my own personal use, it seems to be a pretty good program for
Status: RO

only $25 (you do have to send the money to get the program, it's
not shareware).  It will mix Chinese and English on the same page,
it will even mix complex and simplified characters on the same page,
and in English mode you can put tone marks over vowels to write
pinyin.  The font is pretty blockish and not very fancy, but it is
legible and better than nothing.  That is also supposed to be 
improved in the new version, whenever that may be.

Hope this helps,

-Ann
annmh@blake.u.washington.edu


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From: peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu)
Subject: re: Duke Chinese Typist
Message-ID: <1991Feb2.214821.12041@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
Summary: I found the README
Reply-To: peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 91 21:48:21 GMT


Hi.

The following is the README file from the Duke Chinese Typist.
If anyone finds out more from them .. please post what you find.

(soc.culture.taiwan people: this refers to request for info on a
chinese wp in soc.culture.china that I thought should be posted here
as well.)

--

     "The Duke Chinese Typist" is a Chinese word processor for students and
teachers of Chinese under development at Duke University. It consists of an
internal dictionary composed of the vocabulary appearing in the most widely
used first and second-year Chinese texts, a font library of approximately
4000 Chinese characters in both simple and complex styles, as well as
English and tonal pinyin symbols, and a friendly user interface based
primarily on typing pinyin phonetic transcription with or without tones,
which is then converted into Chinese characters.

     DCT requires a minimum 512K RAM and EGA (Enhanced Graphics Adaptor)
compatible graphics. It is written in the C language, with assembly
language subroutines, and for its screen display of Chinese and English
uses a set of routines for the EGA also developed at Duke by Jeff Gillette,
Don Mullen, and others, called the Raster Graphics Library. Co-authors of
DCT and their addresses are:

   Richard Kunst                            Don Mullen
   Asian/Pacific Studies Institute          Humanities Computing Facility
   2111 Campus Drive                        015 Languages Bldg.
   Duke University                          Duke University
   Durham, NC 27706 USA                     Durham, NC 27706 USA
   (919) 684-6104, 684-2604                 (919) 684-3637
   Bitnet: DKUNST@TUCC                      uucp: duke!ducall!don

      The authors would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge their
debt to the screen editor MicroEMACS 3.7, and its principal authors, Dave
Conroy and Daniel Lawrence. MicroEMACS 3.7 has been placed in the public
domain, and has been substantially incorporated into the Duke Chinese Typist.

     If you have not already done so, you can receive the most recent version
of DCT and its documentation directly, and be registered to be automatically
notified of future updates, by sending a materials and registration fee of
$25.00, payable to Duke University, to the Asian/Pacific Studies Institute
address above. Your comments and suggestions are also appreciated.

     To run "The Duke Chinese Typist", at the DOS prompt type

            A>typist [filename]      (floppy disk version)

            C>dct [filename]         (hard disk version--first copy
                                     both floppies to hard disk)
and press Return (Enter) key.

To print a DCT text file saved to disk, at the DOS prompt type

            A>print [-printertype] filename1 [filename2...etc.]

(first REName FLPPRINT.BAT per installation instructions), or

            B>a:dctpr [-printertype] filename1 [filename2...etc.]
or
            C>dctpr [-printertype] filename1 [filename2...etc.]

and press Return key. (For other alternatives, see written documentation.)

--

PQ?
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Pedro Quien?		peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu		Peter K. Wu
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Subject:      Summary: Chinese and WordPerfect
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Status: RO

Hello all,

a few weeks ago I was asking  about ways to add Chinese characters
to a WordPerfect document.  Thanks for all the replies!  Here is a
short summary:

The most  promising  way seems to be  a program  called  "HanWord"
which is shipped for $ 125.00 by Acme Software,  P.O. Box 37-8416,
Chicago, IL 60637, U.S.A.  It is supposed to work with WordPerfect
Version 5.0 or 5.1 on IBM compatibles.

WordPerfect 4.2  seems to to run also with the  "ET"  system,  but
there are some problems with printing.

That's it!
	  Hartmut
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Subject:      Easy Word
To: Multiple recipients of list CCNET-L <CCNET-L@uga>
Status: RO

Here is a new comer joining the party.  Easy Word, a Chinese word processing
system for IBM PC, by ICSA.  It has two versions.  I just received it's
brochure.  The following is based on the limited information.  It's not intend
to be accurate.  For more information, please contact
ICSA
P.O. Box 1555, Station H
Montral, Quebec H3G 2N5
Canada

The designer clearly had IBM enpanded keyboard (101 keys) in mind.  You use the
numerical keys and the arrow keys to input the 8 basic radicals according to
the hand-writing sequence.  Say, 7 is assigned as "dian3" (point), ...  To key
 in
"wo3" ( I ) you key in the radicals according to the sequence: "pie3" (left
stroke), "heng1" (bar) ...  The first impression is that it's a crazy and slow
way to input Chinese, especially the traditional words have so many strokes.
But you don't have to key in all the strokes of the word.  When you key in
"pie3" 5 most common words starting with "pie" will appear on the screen and
you can use the arrow keys to move to the right one and select it.  If the word
is not on the screen you keep on typing in the following strokes until you see
right one on the screen.  I'm not sure if this package can do it or not.  I
think it would be a good input method if the computer can narrow down the
selection and maybe select the right word for you automatically while you key
in the strokes.  I'm used to the English keyboard.  I think TianMa II and Byx
II have the best input methods.  It would be hard for me the learn how to use
the numerical keys to type strokes.  But if a Chinese who has never touched a
Roman keyboard and is ready to start from sketch he may find it OK.

Basic features

Version        ES 2500                         ES 13000

Hardware       640KB RAM, 1 360 KB floppy      The same as ES 2500 + hard drive
required       drive, DOS.2.2 or later, 101    (at least 3 MB), EGA or VGA
               keyboard, Hercules

Characters     2500 simplified and             13000 of both; soon for
supported      traditional                     Hiragana, Katakana, & Kanji

Fonts          one font (style)                more will be released

Printer        9 and 24 pin Star or Epson      + HP laser printer
support        compatible

Dictionary     2500 words                      13000

price (1-9)    $37 + $6(S&H)                   $109  + $6(S&H)

promotion      available                       up to May 31, 1990
price &
discount

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From: awy0@GTE.COM (Anthony Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Summary on Chinese Word Processors
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Date: 6 Jul 90 18:38:33 GMT
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Recently, I have posted a request to the net for information regarding
Chinese word processors for use on Macintosh systems.  Since then I have
received several replies and also numerous request for any information I
may have collected.  So here it is, a summary of what I've learned in
the past few months.  But first I would like to thank all that have
replied, I really appreciate all the help you gave.

(1)	FeiMa-P

	available from:
	Wu Corporation
	P.O. Box 699
	195 West Main Street
	Avon, CT 06001
	(203)677-1528

	System: Macintosh Plus/SE only
	Over 6000 traditioal Chinese characters

(2)	MacChinese

	available from:
	Pacific Rim Connections
	3030 Atwater Drive
	Burlingame, CA 94010
	(415)697-0911

	Linguist's Software
	P.O. Box 580
	Edmonds, WA
	98020-0580
	(206)775-1130
	
	Compatible with Microsoft Word 3.0, MacDraw and MacWrite. 
	You can specify either Mandarin, Taiwanese or Cantonese
	glossary.  With supplement, the program contains over 6000 
	characters (traditional and simplified)

(3)	MISHU

	available from:
	Pacific Rim Connectios

	and 

	Xanatech, Inc.
	20 Flesh Pond Place
	Cambridge, MA 02138
	(617) 492-7460

	Desk accessories and only offer simplified characters

(4)	BrushWriter 2

	available from :
	Pacific Rim Connections

	System 4.2 or BELOW, only for Mac Plus/SE
	Mac II version is planned.

Also there was an article in MacUser May 1989 issue pp. 136-146
on the earlier versions of FeiMa, BrushWriter and MISHU.

Here are all the information I've dug up, if anyone out there have more
information on new products, please let me know.
Any inquires should be sent to awy0@bunny.GTE.COM
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with any of the companies listed above in any
ways. And I have not yet tried any of the above products.


From sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!yding Wed Aug 21 17:15:00 EDT 1991
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From: yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Chinese word processor
Keywords: cwp
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Date: 20 Aug 91 14:42:19 GMT
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I wrote the Chinese word processor (cwp) in Dec 1988. There is another
more complete one in comp.binaries.ibm.pc (I do notice the popularity of
cwp). I use a unique input method though. I also made some improvements
before uploaded to simtel.

The VGA version will be uploaded shortly. The display area is much
larger. Good for people who have better machines (386 or up).

Another possible improvement is to use full 77?? character lib. Should
not be very difficult. You can simply add new characters to the end of
character lib with CMAKE. I prefer the lighter version.

Not much can be done with printer unless you have source code which I
don't know if I should give away yet. The file has paragraph break (like
Mac file) but no line breaks (line is fixed with 72 columns). This make
it easier to reformat for better printer. I can only include some
imformation on how to print file with, say, a 32x32 character font in
next upload. Printer has much higher resolusion than screen. I may add a
HP driver later. Right now, "what you see is what you get on printer":-)

Yijun

Thanks for all who is interested in my cwp --Yijun


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Dear netters,

WARNING: If you are not interested in Korean Word Processor at all, discard
this mail.

        kam@inmet.camb.inmet.com and ridgeway@blackbox.hacc.washington.edu
and John McRae, BITNET%"JRM@CORNELLA" ask me to summarize the useful info
of Korean Word Processor I got and post it on the list.
Here I simply put them together.

        Thanks again for all who concerned.

Fenggang

----------Korean Word Processor Software Info---------------

1)      "C.H.Yong@newcastle.ac.uk"  says that

"I have a public domain korean word processor called vada if you are
interested. "

2)      edu%"xiaomin@girtab.usc.edu"   says that

"For Mac, you can get Korean Operational System for free. It functions as
the standard English system except in Korean, and you can use whatever
applications you already have and work with them in Korean. Check your
local Apple dealer. Alex"

3)      Dr Peter Bryder, BITNET%"WENG@SELDC52.BITNET"  says that

"On the Mac there is Nisus which comes bundled with the  Mac
when you buy it in Korea.
Nisus can be baught in USA.  It is made by Paragon in San Diego.
There is a special discount for Academics.
The address to Parago:
Paragon concepts,Inc
990 Highland Drive, Suite 312
Solana Beach, CA 92075
phone 619-481-1477
fax 619-481-6154"

4)      edu%"CHENH@ucs.indiana.edu"      Huijie informs that

"This was discussed in Soc.culture.korean recently.
If you have usernet access, try it."

        However, the problem for me and my friend is that we cannot access
usernet.

5)      Tsz-Mei Ko, edu%"tszmei@cco.caltech.edu"  says that

"I've seen some korean fonts in the ftp site crl.nmsu.edu
I've never tried but I believe these fonts can be used in cxterm."

6)      edu%"wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu"  says that

"For Mac, the situation for Korean is the same as for Chinese:  you can
install the Korean system, then just use the regular English word processor
and you can edit Korean."

7)      edu%"yjj@ctr.columbia.edu" , Yuan Jiang says that

"My friend told me that there is a package "PC Hangol" for IBM.
He knows "Elex System" and "Shinmyun System" for MAC.  The second one
is very expensive but has a lot of nice fonts.  The first one has
pretty good keyboard (layout?) and adequate font (limited).

There are a lot more packages for IBM."

--------This is all the informatin so far I got------------

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Hi Dear CCNETters:

Still remember someone mentioned "Super Star Desktop publishing package"
by Beijing University New Technology Corp. (in AUG 3, 1992) ? I got it
recently. It consists of
1) A big font file (4M) called XSDOS.LPH and a font manager called
splib.exe which emulates a Super-chinese card II.
2) Super-DOS 5.1.
3) WPS, wordprocessor.
4) SPT, (super star) a DTP software.

Problem: The splib.exe does not work under DOS 5.0. It runs under DOS 3.3.
Under DOS 5.0 it prints a message: "C:\XSDOS.LPH not found". (Of course
the "C:\XSDOS.LPH" is there, only splib.exe can not find it).

I used DOS debug to trace the splib.exe, found two points:
1) It uses INT 21, FUN 32, Get Drive Parameter Block, in DOS 3.3 way.
   (It uses a byte at offset 16 of Drive Parameter Block as Media
   Description).
2) It uses also INT 25, Absolute Disk read, in DOS 3.3 way.

So help: Can any wizard who plays a lot of debug help me to modify the
program? I tried to write a TSR to "convert" INT 25 from DOS 3.3 way to
dos 5.0 way, as the followings

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
code          segment
              assume  cs:code
              org     100h
begin:        jmp     init
old25         dd      ?
datablk       dd      ?
              dw      ?
              dd      ?
;---------------------------------------
my25          proc    far
              push    ds
              push    es
              push    bx
              push    cx
              push    dx
              pushf
              push    ax
              cmp     cx, -1
              jz      toold25
              mov     word ptr datablk, dx
              mov     word ptr datablk[4], cx
              mov     word ptr datablk[6], bx
              mov     word ptr datablk[8], ds
              mov     cx, -1
              mov     bx, offset datablk
              mov     ax, cs
              mov     ds, ax
              mov     es, ax
              pop     ax
toold25:      call    cs:[old25]
              pop     dx
              pop     cx
              pop     bx
              pop     es
              pop     ds
              iret
my25          endp
;---------------------------------------
mymsg         db      "Xxxx Xxxxxx October 1992",13,10,"$"
init          proc    near
              assume  cs:code,ds:code
              mov     ah, 9
              mov     dx, offset mymsg
              int     21h
inst25:       mov     ax, 3525h
              int     21h
              mov     word ptr old25, bx
              mov     word ptr old25[2], es
              mov     ax, 2525h
              mov     dx, offset my25
              int     21h
              mov     ax, 3100h
              mov     dx, (offset mymsg - offset code + 15) shr 4
              int     21h
init          endp
code          ends
              end     begin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

It does not work. Actually it crashes the machine when I use some program
such as Norton's Sysinfo.exe. Can any one tell me what's wrong? My machine
is 386 PC with DOS 5.0.
Many thanx in advance.
Tian darstellung@icil64.cilea.it

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Dear friends:

Is there anyone know where to contact or buy a full version of font
CK_K version 301.001 (Chinese characters in Kaishu style (the printed
style that is closest to brush writing)) SPRING System  and  OMNIGENA
Co. ?  Please help!

I got a version with less than 100 characters and like it very much!  The readme
file gives the following address, but I get no response from them after several
attempt!

          Dr. Zhang Zhaoyuan                Mr. Wong Yi
          SPRING SYSTEM                     OMNIGENA Co
          Zuernstrasse. 2  A305             P.O. Box 63-64
          W-8700 Wuerzburg                  Taichung, Taiwan
          Germany                           R.O.C.
          luo@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de



Thank you very much for your attention and help!

MinQi Bao

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There is a nice Japanese word processor available for FREE on the
Internet.  I've only used it a little, but it has some very nice features,
and seems very easy to use.  

Its called JWP, and it was written by Stephen Chung.  It was written for
the 386/486 PC Windows environment (386SX not recommended).  To get it, do
the following:

1.  create "jwp" directory on your hard drive:  md jwp

2.  change to jwp directory:  cd jwp

3.  Do "ftp" to either of these sites:
	
	kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov  (type:  cd /pub/misc)
	
	FTP.funet.fi   (type: cd /pub/culture/japan/pc)

4.  Type "bin" (for binary mode). 

5.  Use the "mget" command to download. 
(This will take some time; 30 minutes to an hour when I did it)

6.  Use "pkunzip" version 1.1 (below this version DOES NOT work) or higher to
"uncompress" the files.  You can probably get this on your campus from a
"techie"

7.  Run the "makeini" program

8.  This will set up JWP to run on your computer.  JWP comes with its own
Windows icon.  You will have to set this up manually.  (Refer to Windows
help and/or manual)

(If all this is just too much, you may want to show the above to your
local techie for help.  It's worth the effort though!)

Rob Britt			|  rrbritt@u.washington.edu
Library Associate		|  Phone: (206) 543-7447
Comparative Law Dept.		|  FAX: (206) 685-2165
University of Washington	|
Gallagher Law Library, JB-20	|
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Seattle, WA  98105		|




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So many guys asked the same question.  I happen to have an ads.
at hand.  Here is a distributor at Singapore:

Systems Technology Pte Ltd
25 Kallang Avenue #02-01/03 Kallang Basin
Industrial Estate, Singapore 1233
Tel (65) 2992933  Fax: (65) 2999688
Price: about S$500  (US$1=S$1.60)

Pls do NOT contact me.  Thanks.

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>>>>> In article <9304081517.AA09110@bunny.rhic.bnl.gov>
>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Hearne <hearne@HENSON.CC.WWU.EDU> writes:

> You can use Pig-mode to display characters on any ASCII terminals with
> regular Emacs or MULE, but you have a price to pay that's the characters are
> big, 5 characters per line ;-). On any ASCII terminals, you can also use
> pig-mode to input characters which are then converted into HZ-codes.

  Jim> Do I understand correctly that Pig-mode is a mode in MULE (and Emacs)?


You can FTP  pig.mode  from
**********************************************************************
anonymous@linac.fnal.gov:pub/pig-1.1.tar.Z
**********************************************************************


README file for pig-mode:

This is PIG mode, Pinyin Input to Guobiao mode for Mule as well as Emacs users
to use Chinese PinYin as Chinese input.  This file addresses the installation
and usage information about the package.

Version: 1.1
Author:  Ping Zhou  zhou@okra.fnal.gov
Date:    November 16, 1992

Acknowledgment:
---------------
Part of the code are grabbed from ispell and hz2gb package with no or
minimal change. PinYin table was converted from one file by Ed Lai.
Special thanks goes to Lu, YaYian (lu@rpi.edu) for the help in debugging the
package.


Features:
---------
The pig mode accepts multi-chracter CiZu input and flexible PinYin format.
e.g. Input for Ji4 Suan4 Ji1 (computer) can be Ji4 Suan4 Ji1, jsj, j-s-j,
ji1suan4ji1, ji-s-ji, etc. if the phrase is indeed in your dictionary.

In addition to its usage in Mule (Multi-lingual Emacs) or 8bit-capable Emacs
running in Cxterm window, it also provides a crude way of inputing and viewing
Zhong1 Wen2 in just plain Emacs.

Files:
------
readme                  this file
pig-mode.el             main program
pig-mode.elc            byte-compiled version of pig-mode
ZiDian.gb               a PinYin ZiDian in GuoBiao format
CiDian.gb               a PinYin CiDian
ZiDian.el               ZiDian for pig-mode internal use
CiDian.el               CiDian for internal use

Installation:
-------------
1. Copy pig-mode.el, pig-mode.elc, ZiDian.el CiDian.el to any directories in
   your load path. Copy ZiDian.gb and CiDian.gb (or other CiDian you might want
   to use) to any directory of your choice for later editing.
   If you want to use this package inside a 7bit Emacs which cannot display
   Chinese chracters directly, you will also need a 16 point GB bitmap file,
    e.g. Fsong-16.cclib, which is available from many ftp sites. If you don't
   intend to use pig-mode with 7bit Emacs in any way, you don't need this file.
2. Define the variable Pig-PY-table-file to point to ZiDian.gb
                       Pig-CiDian-file to point to CiDian.gb
                       Pig-ZiDian to point to ZiDian.el
                       Pig-CiDian to point to CiDian.el
   in your Emacs initialization file, usually .emacs. e.g.
   (setq Pig-PY-table-file '~/zw/ZiDian.gb'
         Pig-CiDian-file '~/zw/CiDian.gb'
         Pig-ZiDian '~/zw/ZiDian.el'
         Pig-CiDian '~/zw/CiDian.el')

   For 7bit Emacs you also need
   (setq Pig-font-file '~/zw/Fsong-16.cclib').

   Substitute your choice of directories and filenames.
3. If you using it in a 8bit Emacs inside Cxterm, set Pig-8bit-capable to t
   using (setq Pig-8bit capable t).
4. Setup a way to load the code using either autoload or require.
   (autoload 'pig-mode)
   (autoload 'pig-word "pig-mode")
   (autoload 'pig-region "pig-mode")
   (autoload 'pig-buffer "pig-mode")
   or
   (require 'pig-mode)

Usage:
------
You can invoke the package either manually with the command
M-x pig-mode    in the buffer you are editing
or load it automatically with the variable auto-mode-alist, say
(setq auto-mode-alist (append auto-mode-alist '("\\.py" . pig-mode)))
The latter will load pig-mode whenever you edit a file with name *.py

There are two ways to run pig-mode, i.e. batch-mode or instant-mode. Pig-mode
is in batch-mode by default. In batch-mode you type in all the PinYin first,
then with command pig-region, which is bound to key sequence M-$ by default or
pig-buffer you convert all of them into GuoBiao. You can switch to batch-mode
using command pig-batch-mode (bound to \C-b). Personally I think this is
faster, and because of less distraction user can concentrate more on the
contents. However, a lot of time one does need to use instant-mode where you
convert each PinYin word to GuoBiao as you go along.

You can switch to instant-mode with pig-instant-mode command (bound to \C-i).
In instant mode space bar becomes a "hot key". Whenever space key is pressed
pig-mode begins to process the word before the point. Use \C-c(space) to enter
a space.

In any case, command pig-word (bound to M-tab) can used to convert one PinYin
word at or before the point.

You can use PinYin with tones, or without tones in which case all possible
HanZi will be shown. You can use 0 or 5 for Ching1 Sheng1. Use v as u: in
case of ambiguity.

Several ways can be used to input a CiZu:
As an example all following can be used for the input of Ji4 Suan4 Ji1
j-s-j j.s.j j-su-ji ji4-suan4-ji1 ji-suan4-ji jsj ji4suan4ji1
you can see there are more possibilities. The input is case insensitive.

It's thus important to keep in mind the order that this program checks your
PinYin input with ZiDian and/or CiDian.

If there are . or - present, or there are multipule tones present, it's
   exclusively treated as a CiZu. If it's not found in the CiDian, you have
   the option to add a new entry to your CiDian.
If there are no separators, and PinYin has one eding tone [0-5], then it's
   treated exclusively as a single character PinYin word.
If non of the above are true, i.e. pure English letters, treat each letter as
   an initial in a CiZu. If it's not fund in the CiDian, then look as one
   PinYin word .
You have a chance to retype your input for that word in all the above
   ocassions.

Some of the symbols are bould to \C-c prefixed keys as there is no easy ways
for their input.
e.g. with \C-c. you get chinese period chacter (a small circle).
Another non-standard way to do this is by PinYin juh (JuHao).
Do a \C-hm in pig-mode to see a list of other similar keys
One special case, with a prefix argument to \C-c< you get the symbol <<.
The same for > symbol.

In Mule, after you have converted all PinYin words into visible HanZi
you can simply save it and all the HanZi will be in GuoBiao,
or you can use the command "M-x gb2hz-buffer" or "M-x gb2hz-region"
to convert GuoBiao into 7bit ascii chacters with HZ convention, which
can be directly used in mail and Usenet news.

In Emacs, they will be in 7bit GB automatically after they are processed,
so you will only need some ~{ or ~} to conform to HZ or ZW standard. Command
M-x pig-view-buffer and M-x pig-view-region can be used to read HZ-coded
texts. If you load this package before you enter Gnus you can toggle the
article you are reading inside the group of alt.chinese.text between English
text or Zhong1 Wen2 mode using the key "z". The usage of these Zhong1 Wen2
reading related command in plain Emacs, however, should only be used with
short buffers because it is very time consuming to convert and/or reading
those big Chinese characters.

********** Important Note ***************
If you have added new entries to your CiDian, you have to save the CiDian
 permanently using the command M-x pig-save-CiDian. Otherwise you will loose
 the entries for the new CiZu once you quit Emacs or Mule.
If you want a copy of your CiDian in the PinYin-GuoBiao format at any time
  use the command M-x pig-extract-CiDian.
Consequently there are two ways to build up a CiDian:
 either as you editing files by inputing unknown CiZu
 or edit the CiDian file directly and then use the command
 M-x pig-build-CiDian to convert it to the internal format.

If for any reason, you want to rebuild the PinYin ZiDian, command
pig-build-ZiDian is just for that. The command read from the file defined
by Pig-PY-table-file. Take a look at the file if you are interested.

Bug report:
-----------
If you find any bugs, or have any comments, suggestions on the program,
or made improvements to the code, please send them to the author at
zhou@okra.fnal.gov
Thanks in advance.

Problems:
---------
If you have any trouble installing this package, send me a mail at the
address listed at the beginning.

To do:
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Dynamic order rearrangement of characters, do we want that ?

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Netters,
Qedit (Semware) is a good text editor. I would like to use it in
conjunction with a Chinese OS. I have tried to load Qedit after
loading Xin Tong 6.1, Hua da 6.0, Wang Ma 5.0 and WPS. All these are
not supported. WMDOS 6.0 works well with Qedit and the WBZX and font
editor of WMDOS 6.0 is a plus. Could somebody offer other alternatives ?
___FooMH

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On Sat, 29 May 1993, Dr. Foo Meng How wrote:

> Netters,
> Qedit (Semware) is a good text editor. I would like to use it in
> conjunction with a Chinese OS. I have tried to load Qedit after
> loading Xin Tong 6.1, Hua da 6.0, Wang Ma 5.0 and WPS. All these are
> not supported. WMDOS 6.0 works well with Qedit and the WBZX and font
> editor of WMDOS 6.0 is a plus. Could somebody offer other alternatives ?
> ___FooMH

Qedit works well under ETen and KC.

WOuld you be so kind as to describe the various programs you mentioned in
your posting?  We are not familiar with any of them.  Are these programs
developed in Singapore?

Avron

Avron Boretz
Cornell University (Anthropology/East Asia Program)
Cornell Chinese-Japanese-Korean Computing and Database Facility

aab2@crux2.cit.cornell.edu

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Hi, Tianwei has made a good evaluation on "pinyin lianci shurufa".
To make his assesment even more instructive, I'm here suggesting
to also test some other similar packages, especially those on
the net, such as cWnn (ftp relay.ncl.omron.co.jp) and EasyWin
(email hubo@ift.fhg.de).  There are also some "expensive but
better" commercial packages there, such as InSun and THED.  You
may also have chance to get a "free evaluation" copy for XTM.

pls also indicate what plateform are you using.  TwinBridge is
very slow on some palteforms.

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I used to use XinTianaMan in PC network. It seems to me that that program
is not very ideal because 1) it is slower than some other softwares on the
same type of PC; 2) it cannot "paste" another file into a current file; 3)
it is easily down; 4)the Esc-key could shut down the file accidentally;
and 5) the requirement to use serial port device for Chinese Character
convertion from Pinyin prevents users from use the program remotely. I
think caution would be wise before you decide to buy it.


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I have some new info on TurboWriter and Canvas as 7.1-compatible programs.

TurboWriter 2.2.1 and up is fully 7.1-compatible, with direct inline input.
There are three versions, Traditional Chinese, Japanese and, in Japan,
FlashWriter. They differ mainly in which language you want vertical writing
in: that is OR Chinese OR Japanese; the codes, not resources, supporting the
vertical modes are mutually exclusive for the moment. In horizontal mode,
since TurboWriter is script-manager compatible, these languages, including
Simplified Chinese and Korean, can be freely mixed. As I was told, TurboWriter
is mainly sold in Japan and Taiwan; the multilingual market in the US and
Australia is not yet large enough to warrent the effort of a truly multilin-
gual version including vertical writing.

In the US TradChinese and Japanese are available; there is no version which
would allow you to use vertical text under the SimplChinese OS, BUT the
(Trad)Chinese version since version 2.0.2
comes with a Big-5-coded Simplified Chinese FONT, so
that you can mix the two freely under the TradChinese OS. Of course, as some
people on this net don't seem to realize, SimplChinese <--> TradChinese is
NOT a one-to-one, or even one-to-many correspondence: one simplified character
can have more than one traditional equivalent, AND the opposite is also
true: one traditional character can have more than one simplified equivalent.
The translation of traditional to simplified is therefore never completely
automatic.

The TradChinese and Japanese TurboWriter versions in the US come with a
choice of English or Chinese/Japanese menus; the FlashWriter version sold in
Japan has no choice, only Japanese menus. Support of the Chinese version comes
from Pacific Rim, the Japanese version from SystemSoft.

As far as Canvas is concerned (a draw/painting program with many text capa-
biltities), they have a 7.1-compatible 2-byte version, which is guaranteed
to work with the two Chinese OS and Korean; it most probably is also compa-
tible with Japanese, but since there IS a fully localized Japanese version,
they do not want to guarantee it. The language of the menus is English.

There is a catch: this is NOT the discounted version available at mailorders;
for the compatible version, you have to contact Canvas (Deneba) yourself, and
pay the official price, $399, specifying that you want the 2-byte version.

Martin Heijdra, Gest Library, Princeton.

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================================================================================
 =
XingXing (Stars) version 4.1 is a chinese word processor for PC.
The following are some of XingXing's features.

- Phrase-assisted PINYIN input. Several other input methods such as WuBiZiXing.
- Correct switch between simplified and traditional characters (GB-code).
- Import and export BIG5-code files.
- Pull-down menus, pop-up windows, button bar and mouse supported.
- 24 pin dot matrix and HP laserJet or HP Deskjet printer are supported.
- More than twenty 64x64 bitmap fonts guarantee high quality documents.
- Output of PCX graphic files.
- Print preview.

Files
-----
XINGXING.DOC:  this file
XINGXING.EXE:  a self-extracting program, include:
       STARS.EXE   STARS.OVR   STARS0.LIB  STARS1.LIB  STARS2.LIB
       STARS3.LIB  STARS4.LIB  STARS5.LIB  STARS7.LIB  NEW16.LIB
       NEW24.LIB   V41.DOC     README      PRINTDEM.LJ PRINTDEM.EPS

Install:
--------
make some subdirectory (for example C:\STARS) and run the self-extracting
program XINGXING.EXE. Run the XingXing system:

              STARS
          or  STARS TEXTNAME

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C-WORD (CWD) Version 4.0 is being shipped to its users now! CWD 4.0 -- a
standard DOS application, is a hightly-user-friendly Chinese Word Procwssor
that runs under DOS and MS-WINDOWS. CWD 4.0 includes following features.

 * Pull-down menus, pop-up windows, button bar and mouse supported
 * Display of Chinese character in VGA resolution, in both beautiful
   simplified and traditional fonts.
 * Toggle between simplified and traditional Chinese.
 * Fully compatible with GB and HZ codes.
 * Popular input methods, including phrase-assisted PINYIN/ZHUYIN, character
   components, English to Chinese translation (word to word) and GB code.
 * PINYIN/ZHUYIN covers both high- and low-frequent Chinese characters and
   multi-pronouncing characters.
 * English can be inserted in PINYIN mode without switching to ASCII mode.
 * Standard edit function shuch as CLEAR, CUT, COPY and PASTE and enhanced
   edit function such as unlimited UNDELETE and MOUSE-RIGHT-BUTTON COPY.
 * Publishing-quality mixed document output on laser printers. Three
   simplified and one traditional Chinese character fonts. Three sets of ASCII
   characters (normal, italic and bold). 24 pin dot-matrix printers also
   supported.
 * Output of WINDOWS-format BITMAP file for WINDOWS programs to read.
 * output of PCX graphic files for DOS Fax modem software.
 * Symbol tables like WordPerfect/MS-WORD for WINDOWS for you to enter symbols
 * Delete/Add LIANXIAN words, store/retrieve self-defined phrases, date/table
   insert functions, screen saver, print preview, help menus and ...

If you need announcing information of CWD 4.0. please e-mail me your regular
mailing address.

Special thanks for those who reviewed this program and those who expressed an
interest in reviewing it.

Sincerely,

Mingyong Yang  (LABANDR@OHSU.EDU)

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Hi, there,

At the INFORMATICS here,  XinTianMa (V. 1.0a) claims its 100 per cent
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^
CHS <-> CHT conversion accuracy.  Has anyone tried it?  What's your
comments?

-------
(CHS:  Simplified Chinese characters, normally coded with GB)
(CHT:  Traditional Chinese characters, normally coded with BIG-5)
(CHS<->CHT : m<->m mapping).

GUO Jin
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Institute of Systems Science             Tel: (65) 772 2587
National University of Singapore         Fax: (65) 778 2571
Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Kent Ridge        Internet: guojin@iss.nus.sg
Singapore 0511                           Tel (H): (65) 779 0400

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                          C-WORD Software Disk
                        ----------------------
                 Copyright (c) 1992-1993 , NewTech Software
                               October 15, 1993


C-WORD  diskettes  contain  C-WORD  programs  and data files. C-WORD
(CWD) is an advanced Chinese word processor software for IBM PCs and
compatibls. CWD integrates  inputting,  editing,  composing  and 
printing of Chinese with a wide range of festures:
  
  * A standard  MS-DOS  application  that runs on DOS or WINDOWS
    suitable for using in any English environment. 
  * Pull-down menu, pop-up windows, button bar and mouse supported. 
  * Display of Chinese characters in VGA(640X480) resolution, with 
    both simplified and traditional fonts.
  * Popular Chinese input methods,including English to Chinese 
    translation input.
  * PINYIN input covers both low- and high-frequent Chinese charaters.
    SHUANGPIN and English words can also be accepted in this mode.
  * Standard edit functions such as CLEAR, CUT, COPY, PASTE and 
    enhanced edit functions such as unlimited UNDELETE and RIGHT-
    MOUSE-BUTTON COPY.
  * Many composing commands that can be inserted in anywhere of text.
    Print preview function lets you view pages before sending text 
    to printer.
  * Hight quality English and Chinese document output. Three simplified
    and one traditional Chinese fonts, three English fonts. 24 Pin 
    dot-matrix and PCL/HP LaserJet compatible printers (use true 48*48, 
    40*40 fonts) supported.
  * Output of WINDOWS formatted BMP files and PCX graphic files, which
    can be read by many DOS FAX modem software.
  * Store and retrieve phrases function, symbols/date/table insert
    functions, screen saver and help menus. 
  * Fully compatible to GUOBIAO Chinese text files. A untility program 
    -- FILECVT.EXE can be used to convert different file format including
    HZ files.

[Installation of Shareware Version]
  1) Make a subdirectry shuch as c:\CWD or d:\CWD.
  2) Use pkunzip to unzip _cwd1.zip and _cwd2.zip into the sub-directry.
  4) If you use EGA/IBM8514 adaptor and monitors instead of VGA/SVGA, 
     use a text editor to edit _cwd.ini before run CWD.EXE.
     
     EGA: Find the number after line [GRAPHDVR], change 9 to 3 or 4. 
          Find the number after line [GRAPHMOD], change 2 to 1.
     IBM8514: Find the number after [GRAPHDVR], change 9 to 6. 
          Find the number after line [GRAPHMOD], change 2 to 0.
  
  * Registered version includes a automatic installing program--CWDSETUP.

[Run CWD]
  1) In DOS, change to above CWD directory, Type CWD to run it. 
  
  2) MS-WINDOWS (presume you install all files in C:\CWD)
     a) In program manager, choose [File | New] and new program item.
     b) In description item, type CWD 4.0 and type C:\CWD\CWD.EXE in
        command line. Type C:\CWD in the star directory item then OK.
     c) To run CWD, double-click CWD 4.0 icon.
     d) If you use windows 3.0, delete CWD.PIF before run it.
        
[Input]
  1) ZHUYIN  
     You need ZHUYIN FUHAO conversion table to use this input methd.
     This table is included in user manuals. 
  2) PINYIN (three kinds of input may be accepted)  
     a) One character with tone: hao3               (good)
     b) SHUANGPIN:               zhongguo[SPACEBAR] (China,ends with a space)
     c) To insert a few English: anyword[ENTER KEY]
       (When a string is ended with a RETURN, it will be inserted at the
        cursor position. The spelling of this word will also be checked
        according to the internal dictionary. If matching word is not
        found, CWD will produce a short beep to warn you.)
  3) Character components (simplified character components only)
  4) English to Chinese
     Enter an English word followed by a [SPACEBAR] or an ENTER/RETURN key.
  5) CWD internal code/GB code

[NOTE]
This shareware version does not include any printer drivers or bitmap
files for printing. However, the registered version can produce 
publishing quality Chinese and English documents. CWD 4.0 uses true 
48*48 and 40*40 bitmap fonts. It includes three sets of simplified Chinese 
fonts, one set of traditional Chinese fonts and three sets of ASCII fonts.

[To Order]
Full-featured version of CWD 4.0B (registered version) is being distributed
by 
    NewTech Software
    P.O. Box 1838 
    Beaverton, OR 97075-1838. 

The introductory price is $ 39.95 + $ 5.0 S/H fee. The S/H fee for order 
outside U.S.A. is $ 12.0 (airmail) or $ 20.0 (express mail).

The registered version includes five 3.5" HD diskettes (compressed files) 
and user manuals.

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For more informatiom or technical support please contact:
 
  Mingyong Yang  
  
  E-mail: LABANDR.OHSU.EDU
  CompuSave: 72050,2774
  FAX: (503)526-0273
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Hi, Netters:

I have tried the updated CWD 4.0 shareware version.  It's great in terms
of its general user interface, printing preview, PCX output, and very easy
menu-driven features.

However, there are a few things that I hope it can be improved if
possible:

The printing control codes are still unhidden, can the author
make them hidden just like that in WordPerfect and in MS-Word.

Can the input methods be accompanied with LianXiang or something
equivalent.  LianXiang is excellent if you want to make your own customized
vocabulary.

Also, I can't start it from other directories, i.e., it won't buy the PATH
command.  The system will come out with a message like:

        "System loading...
         _cwdpy.dic not found! Press any key...
         _CWD.INI not found or incorrect! Please run CWDSETUP..."

The CWDSETUP.??? does not come with the shareware version.

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Dear Netters:

Thank you for your interest in CWD shareware version. Here are some answers to
questions that I have received so far.

1) CWD shareware version does not come with CWDSETUP.EXE, therefor CWD.EXE can
only be run from its subdirectory only. Registered version of CWD 4.0
contains 17 MB of files and database, but this shareware version includes
essencial files only.

2) PINYIN input is basic and default method of CWD 4.0. Three kinds of
strings can be accepted: PINYIN with tone, SHUANGPIN and English words that
you want to insert into text. After one character is inputed, its phrases
will display at the input line (phrase-assisted PINYIN input method).
Phrases can be added or deleted by users. PINYIN input examples:

 hao3                 (one character)
 haoxin[SPACEBAR]     (SHUANGPIN, 2-5 character phrases)
 anyword[ENTER KEY]   (word to be inserted into cursor position, spelling
                       checked)

[SPACEBAR],[.],[,],[->] and [<-] can be used to search characters in the
next/previous line.

PINYIN method covers almost all characters of GB code including low-frequent
characters and multi-pronouncing characters (for instance, XING2, HANG2).

3) ZHUYIN method accepts ZHUYIN symbols with tone only. [SPACEBAR] can be
used as tone 1. A ZHUYIN symbols converting file - ZHUYIN.TAB is included
for your convenience.

4) If key board is used to select, press "O" for OK, "C" for CANCEL, "Y" for
YES in most case. (Some one reported his PC locked up when using key board
to select options. Please contact me. I lost your address)

5) Alt+[.] is used to enter Chinese full stop and Alt+[,] to enter DUNHAO.

6) If you have trouble in unzipping CWD sharware files, try using more recent
version of PKUNZIP. The version I used is 2.04g.

7) English to Chinese input method
   english[SPACEBAR] or
   english[ENTER KEY]

Send your question to labandr.ohsu.edu. I will answer your questions in
summarized reply except some specific ones.

Sincerely,

Mingyong Yang

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New TianMa claims its capability of "100% gb2big5 conversion".  For that
feature, we bought a copy this Oct. and finally got to know the truth/trick.
To my opinion, as a DOS package, at least NJSTAR v 3.0 and EasyWin 1.1
(both have demo version on ifcss.org) are better than XTM, and for US$695,
you have many choices.  How about Windows package?

GuoJin
--------
In message <9312211942.AA17445@bochap.iss.nus.sg> you write:
> Dear Netters:
> My boss had a meeting in Montreal and was told that there is a very good
> chinese word processor-New TianMa from ASIACOM on the market, (US $695).
> We have some business with China and need a good Chinese WP. Could someone
> who has experience with this New TianMa or someone heard some comments on
> this one advise me "is this a good one to buy (we need create some chinese
> characters by ourselves sometimes and want good printing quality using
> HP printers (I am using HP4M right now).
> Any info will be highly appreciated and thanks in advance.
>
> Xiaowa Wang
> Environment Canada
> Burlington, Ontario
> Canada


GUO Jin
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Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Kent Ridge        Internet: guojin@iss.nus.sg
Singapore 0511                           Tel(H): (65) 779 0400

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Mr. Tao Tao posted the following:

> I encountered a problem in using WP 3.0 on my Centris 650 running
> Simplified Chinese System 7.1.

> WP can open these files and the files in Geneva fonts just looked like what
> I normally got for a gb files under English environment. The problem is when
> I highlighted the content and changed the font to Beijing or Song, all the
> characters changed into little squarish faces.

I have noticed this problem when using NISUS 3.4 and opening GB of BIG5
files when the word-processor chooses a non-chinese font as the default
font.  You can either change the default font to  *Beijing or, after
selecting the text in the new, open window, perform a CUT, then switch
fonts/keyboard using the keyboard menu, and then perform a PASTE into the
Chinese font (*Beijing is easier to read on the screen and you can then
easily switch to Song for printing.)  If that doesn't  work try using the
Simplified version of Teachtext as an intermediary, then cut and paste to WP.

I have also noticed some problems with the Song Simplified font provided
with the Chinese Language Kit, to wit: as the Laser printer I use is at my
office and my Macintosh is at home, I always print to a Postscript file
but have found that the Song font will not do this, however the
Traditional LiSung Lite has no problems being tranlsated into a Postscript
file.  Does anybody know why?

Robert

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>>WP can open these files and the files in Geneva fonts just looked like what
>>I normally got for a gb files under English environment. The problem is when
>>I highlighted the content and changed the font to Beijing or Song, all the
>>characters changed into little squarish faces.  Please note that I did select
>>China-Chinese in Language manu and the Use Inline was also checked.I would
>>like to know what I did wrong.

As pointed out by John, pressing shift key while selecting a Chinese
font should do the job.  Use Inline should not be selected.  In the
language menu it doesn't matter if China-Chinese is selected.  In
fact, it's better not to select it because your underlying OS is US
with Chinese as an extension unless you register WP as a Chinese
application.

However, I am curious how long does WP take to do all these operations:
importing GB files (non-WP), and changing font to Chinese.  On my Mac,
it takes forever to do it and when it's done, it still has gibberish.
WP3.0 has serious bugs; see below.

>>WP is supposed to be worldscript concious.  I hope what I did something wrong
>>here.  Otherwise, I will be stuck with a piece of useless software.

WP3.0 is not WorldScript-savvy as well as Nisus 3.842.  It has some major
and annoying bugs dealing with Chinese.  To wit: it doesn't know Chinese
word boundary so it will put a period at the beginning of a line.  Very
smart!  The support of importing non-WP created files is lousy: it takes
too long and doesn't do the job correctly (see above).  When there are
Chinese and English texts together, WP can't handle justification
properly.  Too bad!  But what do you expect for $59?

I have complained bitterly to WP Corporation about these bugs and was
promised a new release within a few months.  Who knows, they probably
will fix these bugs if enough people have bitched!

Oh well, I return you to your regular program.

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Hello!

Just a follow-up on the ABQ Chinese system from Chu Pang-fu which I uploaded
to ifcss a few weeks ago. I would like to remind every one that this is a
very small system, with only one input method -cangjie- but over 60,000
characters, all outline, in many fonts and styles. The system has text
editor, spreed sheet, data base, graphics, and "dtp". It is only 449,802
bites in size, in total!!! Chu Pang-fu has let it go free. The draw-back
is that it does have a few bugs. I would like to "advertise" for someone,
or even better several people, well versed in assembler language, to help
trying to clean up the system. Perhaps an 'undo' or 'un-erase' function
could be added, as well as a few simple printer additions. Please do down-
load the abq.zip file in ifcss MS-DOS/editors, try it out, and if you are
interested, send me a note, and I will send the source code.

I think that this is a wonderful chance to fix up an 'ultimate' system for
academic Chinese computing. The only other system I know of which can handle
so many characters is the cciii, which is horribly expensive, and not all
that convenient to use. It also has only 24x24 fonts. Here we have the slightly
unfinished work of a true genius. If he were to charge a fortune for each
copy of this, it would be famous, but as it is, it has gone unknown for years.
Let's fix it up, and stop having to worry about 'creating' a new character
every time a non-standard Big5 or GB character pops up!

Curtis Smith

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From easug-error@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu Fri May 12 12:15:22 1995
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On Fri, 12 May 1995, mgvdmeer wrote:

> Does anybody know where I can get software for Chinese wordprocessing that
> uses the new ISO 10646 standard, in other words: that has a larger GB-set
> than the old one with 7.000 characters?

Yes, you can try ChinesePro, a software package for Windows. It comes 
with four fonts of 20900 Chinese characters each, each font comprising 
the Unicode CJK set and thus both old and new characters.

Even though if the fonts provided with this software package covers the 
Unicode CJK set, the input part of the programme still is limited to 
GuoBiao in JianTi mode and limited to Big5 in FanTi mode. But if you 
import a text already typed in with Characters outside the GB / Big5 set, 
but within the Unicode CJK set, you will be able to print them, as far as 
I understand.

The address from where to order:

DORAK INTERNATIONAL CO.,
9368 Telstar Avenue
El Monte, CA 91731
U.S.A.
Tel.: +1 818 288-9171
Fax.: +1 818 288-6205

You may say hello to Helen Xie from me :-)

The package also has some optional goodies:

- additional vector fonts in all shapes and forms at USD 45 each
- voice reading (SoundBlaster compatible)
- OCR

I just installed the voice reading, and it works okey, but it has trouble 
with texts without line breaks, as it will sometimes split double or 
triple byte characters within one character and thus the following text 
is garbled. In order to read out a text with no difficulties, one needs 
to insert line breaks, remove double byte punctuation (and insert single 
byte instead). The sound quality is not excellent, but it is okey. The 
major drawbacks with the sound module have been that I haven't found a 
way to make it pause inside a text and I haven't found a way to save any 
changed settings.

Regards,

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