Subject: CND-EP Posting, November 10, 1990

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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 22:59:47 -0500

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=====================  Europe / Pacific Section (CND-EP)  =====================
				November 10, 1990
 
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1. PRC Educational Consul Answered Questions about Passport Renewal.....40

2. PRC Students Need to Make Themselves Understood by Their Host Nation.65
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1. PRC Educational Consul Answered Questions about Passport Renewal
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>From: [email-masked] (Wei Sun)   Date: 9 Nov 90 14:54:41 GMT
Source: soc.culture.china

	  Meeting with Officials of PRC Consulate in Chicago

    On November 7 of 1990, the College of Engineering of University of Illinois
at Chicago organized an informal reception for the newly appointed consul of
education from the PRC consulate general's office.  The reception was held for
the new consul of education because the new consul, Mr. Zhang, was previously
a vice president of Tsinghua University and whom the dean of the College of
Engineering of UIC has known him  personally when the dean visited China.  All
Chinese students studying in the College of Engineering are invited to attend
the meeting.  Another official, Mr. Zhang Jiwen, from the education section of
PRC Chicago consulate accompanied the former VP of Tsinghua.  About 50 Chinese
students showed up in the reception.  Among the questions and answers raised
during the meeting, the following may be interesting to you:

Q: Can two-year passport be extended?
A: Yes. If you have approval from domestic working unit, we can extend two
   years each time. Otherwise, one year each time. 

Q: If one has changed his/her visa from J-1 to F-1, can his/her passport
   be extended?  (Editor's note: J-1 is government sponsored student visa
   and F-1 is self-sponsored student visa in the US)
A: Yes. Such student will still be considered state-sent if he/she was
   state-sent before the change.

Q: What is the normal length of each extension?
A: Two years for visiting scholars and three years for students.

Q: If one is working and have H-1 visa, can the passport be extended?
   (Editor's note: H-1 is alien worker's visa in the US)
A: Yes. As far as one has not got PR, he/she will still be considered
   as an oversea student regardless of whether he/she was government-
   sponsored or not.

Q: How about the ones who have got PR and who were previously
   government-sponsored?
A: They need to change their passports from "public-affair" (Yin Gong)
   to "private-affair" (Yin Si).  To be able to do that, one has to clear
   all the previous debt owning to domestic unit or to the government.

(Weiyi Meng from UIC)
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2. PRC Students Need to Make Themselves Understood by Their Host Nation
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From: Bing Wen <[email-masked]>  Date:  7 Nov 90 23:22 -0600

       Students Need to make themselves understood, Official Says

Ottawa, Nov.7 -- Chinese students should help their host nation understand
their situation if they really feel the need to stay in Canada after
graduation, an immigration official said here today.
 
Immigration policy specialist Bill Lipsit said it is true that there is a
difference in the execution of the special measures for the Chinese PR
applicants recently.
 
"The Chinese government has made it more difficult for people to get out. If a
person has gone to the government five or six times and is able to get out, we
think there is no danger of persecution," Mr. Lipsit said. Similarly, if their
spouses are permitted to visit them, there seems to be little danger for
themselves to return home, he added.
 
Mr. Lipsit noted that although the rejection rate is high the Canadian
Government "is not returning any people to China."  He said Chinese students
should really make a point of helping Canadians, especially policy and decision
makers, understand the real situation in China.
 
When told that China has a history of persecuting intellectuals and that the
system is so corrupt that many people can get out through the "back door," Mr.
Lipsit said: "If it is wide spread in the system, you should write a report to
the Canadian Government."

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