Subject: the collaboration proposal to IFCSS failed (fwd)

From: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT)

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 10:09:58 -0700
From: Guyang Matthew Huang <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: the collaboration proposal to IFCSS failed

HI Board colleagues,

I'm very sorry to tell you the bad news that our collaboration proposal
to IFCSS is not gonna get through.

I talked to Lin Chengsheng, the current IFCSS president today. He's only
interested to fund the summer workshop/seminar project, which is fine
with me (since it's their money, it's their decision). However, he wants
us to write a very detailed proposal in both Chinese and English in a `short period of time so that IFCSS would take to Taiwan to apply for grant. I told
him that we don't have such a human resource to do that. Also, I don't
feel comfortable for CAL to get fund from the "san1 min2 zhu3 yi4 da3
tong2 meng2" (semi-official org of Taiwan). At that point Lin Changsheng
lost his temper and became hasty over the phone.  I hang up on him,
feeling that the conversation won't be productive anymore.

So you can say I brew it up or screwed up. My sense was that we won't get
much (a coupld of hundred) anyway. If they treat CAL as their subordinates,
we might just forget about it as well, since what we proposed was a
collaboration on equal base, and we stated explicitly it's IFCSS' job to
get the fund, not CAL. I don't feel like CAL should be the part to ahelp
IFCSS to get the Taiwan money.

I leave it for your comment and judgement.

Guyang
Cc: IFCSS Council speaker

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From: [email-masked] (pri=-19 D.C.)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 16:32:43 -0400

[email-masked] (Jinghong Li) said:
>I never believed 
>such project could do any good.  There are many more meaningful 
>things to try;

Believe is another thing. Now what we need to do is how to solve this problem.
Forget it is not the solution. IFCSS has promissed the award, we cann't just
eat our words.

Jinghong, could you send me more detail inform you know about this project ?
We need to evaluate both morally and legally what IFCSS need to do.
(I am saying, it is possible somebody can sue IFCSS because it promised the
award.)

Also, I hope Zhengdong or Shusheng can send us some detail also.

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 15:41:56 -0500 (CDT)

As for the Best Student Award issue, please note that 
the same program is put in the work plan proposal by Lin Changsheng 
for the Council's approval.  

The program was initiated last year, and it will be continued next
year (if the Council approve s it), then I don't see any reason IFCSS
does not finance the current award (that means abandoning the last
year's work) and starts all over again when the new term begins.

Yungui Ding

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From: [email-masked] ( )
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 16:50:28 -0400

>year's work) and starts all over again when the new term begins.

That's what we want to make sure. From Liu ZhengDong's mail, it seems HQ don't
want to honor last year's award. I have to say I haven't called HQ to see
what's their side story yet.
I will probably do that tomorrow.