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Subject: Wkae up, damnit.
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Sorry to use that word. But where are you guys ?
Does anybody know we have a email meeting ?

Now let's come back to the email meeting.
We had several agenda. 
We finished the first one ,  select 6da site.
But there are many remain.
- 6da preparation
- (informal)report for the financial task force
- prepare for the next tele-conference.

The next tele-conference is only two weeks away. We need collect inputs
for what we are going to discuss, what things we need to finish for
this term (this will be the last conference we are going to have).
For previous conferences, our problem was we didn't have much thoughts
about what are we going to discuss. One reason I ask for this email
meeting was to force us to think about it.

By the bylaw, it is the Council's responsibility to organize congressional
meeting. That is precisely why I ask to set up a task force formally
to handle it. Sure, we can find people and have HQ to do the working.
But we need do this formally, and giving proper authorization.
Without following the rule and authorization, I only see potential
dispute and chaotic.
Do you guys have any idea how much time do we have until the 6da?
Do you have any idea how many things we need to do ?
Invitation to guesses, setting up congress agenda, calling 100+ schools to
make sure they come to 6da, contacting airline for group discount,
many small thing takes time.
Give you an idea, last term, the preparation started in January.
If we cann't set up the task force now, we should at least start work on it.
If we let HQ or who ever to handle it, at least we should have a consensus.

I know many of you are frustrated. But I have more reason to be frustrated
than anybody else and I AM NOW. Damn it, I'll say it again. Does anyone
else also have the feeling the whole council is just like a dead pig ?

Everybody ask to your heart, what have we done this term ?
How are you going to face all the delegates that elected you in 6da ?
I don't think I can proudly say I have done my share while the
whole thing is a mess. Maybe some of you can.
Think about every teleconference, they were just wasting time and money!
I guess we still have one more last chance to waste more money and time.
Why was it like chaotic for every meeting we have ?
Because we didn't pay attention, we didn't do our home work. Probably
we didn't even know what we were talking about at all.
And of cause, we don't know rules and we didn't even try to learn them
and enforce them. Why should we do that after all. We are THE boss.
Our honorable council, the "board of director" that representing
Chinese students and scholars in States, the boss of IFCSS,
if IFCSS has any glory history, we at most are the degenerated second
generation, self centered, self willed, irresponsible, lawless and careless.
But that doesn't matter, we are the boss. We didn't try to do anything,
therefor, we are no fault. If there are anything wrong, we can easily
point finger to somebody else, because we didn't do anything. Well, for any
credit, of cause, it's ours. See, we are the boss.
But I am just afraid there aren't credit for us to take. But who cares,
we will proudly say, we have been boss.
At last, we can always say, we are volunteers. So why should we do all the
extra work for teleconference, email meeting ? We didn't get a dime for
it. (Well, the telephone bill just show us how hard we have tried to work!)
While those @$$#*!&s in HQ get paid, certainly should do things to our best
satisfaction. So let's come back to 6th term again, I just want to be boss.

Dong Chen
Boss of IFCSS

PS, I am going to appeal to SVC against the Council for the violation of 
not implementing the resolution passed on 5da. The resolution says every
council member should contact at least half of the member schools each
quarter and report in the teleconference.

From DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov Thu Apr 28 13:32:28 1994
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Subject: From Yungui Ding (I): Email conference going on.
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Dear colleagues,

There are several things that I call your attention to in the
following three mails.

1. The current email conference
2. Nomination for the 6th Congress Preparation Taskforce
3. Council Financial Taskforce takes action!

Please read them and help the Council to move on.

Yungui Ding
Council Co-Chair

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1. The current email conference

===Time===

   We called it for the last week (April 16-23), but we actually fully
started this week. So let's keep the orginal time length of one week with
a time frame shift of one week. That is: April 24-30.

The email conference will end Sunday, April 30, 1994, 6pm (EST).

===Quorum===

We have had enough quorum:
     Chen Dong     Ding Yungui      Liang Er       Liu Cheng
     Qi Bing       Ren Songlin      Shao Qing      Wang Jing
     Wang Yu       Zhang Feng    Zhou Hongguang   
And Fan Hongran and Zhang Li have also voted for the 6da site, 
they should also be counted. 

===Site for 6th Congress===
   Chen Dong will count the voting result.

===Emergency Motion===

     (1) by Chen Dong: about 6th Congress Preparation Taskforce
     (2) by Chen Dong: about financial work. Seconded by Wang Jing.

The second motion is now on the floor for us to vote for *ACCEPTION*.



From DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov Thu Apr 28 13:33:06 1994
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Subject: From Yungui Ding (II): Nomination for the 6th Congress Taskforce
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2. Nomination for the 6th Congress Preparation Taskforce

I hope we will work out something in the current email conference.
However, considering the current pace, we may have to be prepared for
the situation otherwise. 

The preparation of the 6th IFCSS Congress is such an urgent task that
the Council has to take responsibility for. There is no time that
we can possibly let it pass by while waiting for nothing to happen.

I hereby nominate Council members

     Mr. Chen Dong
     Mr. Liu Cheng
     Ms. Wang Jing

for the 6th Congress Preparation Taskforce. This taskforce will also
include personnel from the IFCSS HQ and the Congress' local host school,
and IFCSS SVC and IFCSS veteran activist who are familiar with the
procedure of the Congress preparation work.

The Council's candidates (my this nomination) and the personnel of the
taskforce itself are subject to the final approval of the Council in the
following Teleconference. 

Right now, I call for the general consent from the Council so as to let
the above three Council members to start the preliminary work right away,
which includes, but not limited to,
     to coordinate the related work;
     to cooperate with the HQ,;
     to make the preliminary decision about the site (if the current;
        email conference will not be able to decide);
     to locate candidates for the taskforce from other mentioned branches;
     ...
(There are tremendous work need to be done in a timely manner.)
While you are doing so, please keep the Council (through council-l
and council-wn nets) informed of the progress, and prepare all the
questions and resolutions for the next teleconference to answer and
pass.

I call on all my colleague to give a high attention to this task,
and volunteer your time and ideas as much as you can. 

Chen Dong, Liu Cheng, and Wang Jing, if no objection is hear from the
Council, please you folks be prepared to work hard and take the duty.
(Of course, first, please accept the duty.)


Sincerely,

Yungui Ding
Council Co-Chair


From DING@vaxld.ameslab.gov Thu Apr 28 14:02:45 1994
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Subject: From Yungui Ding (III): Financial Taskforce, make it move, please!
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3. Council Financial Taskforce takes action!

The financial work! We have made it a big deal in our term to push
forward the financial management further professionalization.
Although the financial inspection was interrupted midway, a lot
of questions have been opened in front of us for the Council to answer,
a lot of work for the Council to do.

Although I am not sure we will have enough time to accept and then pass
Chen Dong's resolution. I suggest all of us still pay attention to it.

As it is stated, a financial taskforce has been formed in the DC meeting,
which consists of the Council's IT (Inspection Team) members, plus
IT special guest Mr. Bai Yan, Council Chair Dong Liqun, and Council 
member Mr. Ren Songlin.

It is really time for the financial taskforce to start to work.
We have discovered problems in our financial system, and we have talked
about solutions to it. Now it is time to push all our past effort forward
to make it HAPPEN: to set up new regulations and new procedures.

Otherwise, all we have done will be NOTHING more than trouble-finding
(if not trouble-making :-). I believe, the Council has had the courage
to open the problem, and the Council also has the courage and willingness
and skills to solve them, to build up new things.

I call upon my colleagues in the Financial Taskforce to gear it
and get something done before the 6th Congress. Especially Mr. Ren Songlin
and Mr. Zhou Hongguang, please exercise your leadship, your experience
and your enthusiasm and contribute more to the cause of IFCSS.

In a sense, finishing the financial work we have started from the 
very beginning is as important as, if not more than, the preparation
work for the 6th Congress. We can only walk from here to there.
Without a solid here (5th term), I can't imagine how we can jump
to there (6th term). We are at the last stage of our term. Please
work hard to get to the graceful finish line.

My only suggestion is: cooperate with the HQ fully, and keep the
Council informed approriately.

Cheers,


Yungui Ding
Council Co-Chair



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Subject: Re: From Yungui Ding (II): Nomination for the 6th Congress Taskforce
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I'm ok with Yungui's nomination. Move on,

Hongguang

