Subject: Who is the Council Chair?

From: Hongguang Zhou <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:21:39 CST

To: IFCSS Council
From: Zhou Hongguang, the Council Member from the Southeast
RE: Chen Dong's claim
Date: 1/19/94

Who is the Council Chair? Seems Mr Chen Dong is functioning as the Chair
by claiming the council is in meeting while Dong Liqun has called off the
meeting last Saturday, which was confirmed by Shen Tong. We are not sure
what's happened to the Council-l to which Dong Liqun sent his
announcement ( as a matter of fact, I and other members lost many
important mails after we sent them to council-l), but we do know it is who has
wildly sent numuous mails with lots of claims to the Council-l and is still
cliaming the already-called-off meeting is still on. We would like to ask
Mr. Chen Dong: Has Dong Liqun switched his resposibility of the Council
Chair to you? When? By what means? As the Chair of the Council Rules
Committee, you'd better to follow the rules.

Another thing is that I said NOTING to Mr. Chen Dong last night as he
claimed in his mail, which may be a day-dream product of his. Because I've
already learned a lesson from the fact that my previous words in a
telephone conversation with a former IFCSS officer was exploited by others,
I have never say anything over telephone to anyone who is with unnamed
motivations ever since.

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:40:46 CST

I view it very inapproriate to forward personal record of private
conversations into the Council's work net. Even if you decide it
is necessary to discredit your colleagues personally, use some
other argument in a responsible matter.

Yungui

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From: [email-masked] (priv=-10 D.C.)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 19:06:49 CST

It is not personal conversation. We were discussion council's issues.
I don't want to "discredit your colleagues personally", he can openly
confront me if he like.

If you all agree this is a serious discussion, argue based on facts.

Dong,
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From: [email-masked] (priv=-10 D.C.)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 19:09:15 CST

1. I was never claimed to be the Chair.
   What I did was, as normal, prepare the package, include the resolutions,
   recommendations, meeting agenda to council member.
   It is also my duty to remind the council member of our agenda.
2. I have my right to post my discussions, comment on other's discussions.
3. I was not awear of the meeting was called off. When I learnt Liqun's call,
   I immediately expressed my objection.
   (refer to my comment about Robert's Rule on call off the meeting.)
   I didnot and do not agree the meeting is called off.
4. The council-l was not function. So I got help to dig out all the post I
   thought did not reach out other members, by went though all the archieve
   files.
5. There are no bias from my forwarding. I forwarded all the mails, include
   yours. All the forwarding are completed, they are not excerpts.
   People need hear debate from both side, not just my side.
6. Even though you do not admit we talked, my telephone bill will show that.

Let's be rational.

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