Subject: Vote Result and Records

From: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:18:18 -0800 (PST)

Here are the vote results and records I have received in the first e-mail 
Meeting. Please check your vote. Please inform Chen Dong or me if there 
is someting wrong today.

Liqun Dong

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PART 1. Vote Results:

                    HQ CPA Bid     CP5026    CP5027    CP5028
Chen Dong              Yea          Yea       Yea       Yea
Ding Yungui            Nay          Nay      Abstein   Abstein
Dong Liqun             Nay          Nay      Abstein    Nay
Fan Hongran          Abstein        Nay       Nay       Nay
Liang Er               Yea          Yea       Yea       Yea
Liu Cheng              Nay          Nay       Nay       Nay
Qi Bing                Nay          Nay       Nay       Nay
Ren Songlin            Yea          Yea       Yea       Yea
Shao Qing              Yea          Yea       Yea       Yea
Shen Tong              Nay          Nay       Nay     Abstein
Wang Jing            Abstein        Nay       Yea       Nay
Wang Yu                Yea          Yea       Yea     Abstein
Xu Datong              Yea          Yea       Yea       Yea
Zhang Feng           Abstein        Nay     Abstein   Abstein 
Zhang Li             Abstein        Nay       Yea       Nay
Zhou Hongguang         Nay          Nay       Nay       Nay
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Summary:
                 Yea     Nay    Abstein
CPA Bid:          6       6       4
CP5026            6      10       0
CP5027            8       5       3
CP5028            5       6       5

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PART 2.  VOTE RECORDS:

Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 11:22:44 CST
From: Songlin Ren <[email-masked]>
Reply to: [email-masked]
To: Multiple recipients of list <[email-masked]>

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        <<<<<<  MY   VOTE >>>>>>

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Dear Chair and all of council memebers:

I vote YES for CPA recommendation of HQ.
I vote YES for CP5026.
I vote YES for CP5027.
I vote YES for CP5028.

Songlin Ren (Signed)
The 5th IFCSS Council Member from Northeast.
Jan. 19, 1994

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 15:10:19 CST
From: "priv=-10 D.C." <[email-masked]>
Reply to: [email-masked]
To: Multiple recipients of list <[email-masked]>
Subject: [vote] from Liang Er

Mr. Chair,
        Liang Er ask me to cast his vote as,

1.      [CM5010] postpone meeting deadline to Saturday
  yes
2.      CPA proposal by HQ
  yes
3.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
  yes
4.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
  yes
5.      [CP5028] open the "finance-net"
  yes

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 11:42:23 EST
From: Qing Shao <[email-masked]>
To: IFCSS <[email-masked]>
Subject: <vote> for [CPA], [CP5026, 5027, 5028] from Qing Shao

Dear Friends:
     If Dong Liqun and Chen Dong agree that I have signed up for the e-mail
conference, I would like to have the right to vote.
     1. Vote for CPA -- YES.
     2. Vote for [CP5026] -- YES.
     3. Vote for [CP5027] -- YES.
     4. Vote for [CP5028] -- YES.
     Thank you very much for your attention.

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 16:08:51 -0500
From: "priv=-10 D.C." <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: [vote] from Dong Chen

Mr. Chair,
        Here is my vote
1.      [CM5010] postpone meeting deadline to Saturday
  yes
2.      CPA proposal by HQ
  yes
3.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
  yes
4.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
  yes
5.      [CP5028] open the "finance-net"
  yes

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 15:07:57 CST
From: "priv=-10 D.C." <[email-masked]>
Reply to: [email-masked]
To: Multiple recipients of list <[email-masked]>
Subject: [vote] from Xu Datong

Mr. Chair,
        Xu Datong asked me to cast his vote for him last night,

        1.      [CM5010] postpone meeting deadline to Saturday
          yes
        2.      CPA proposal by HQ
          yes
        3.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee
          yes
        4.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw
          yes
        5.      [CP5028] open the "finance-net"
          yes

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 10:57:11 EST
From: Qing Shao <[email-masked]>
To: IFCSS <[email-masked]>
Subject: <vote> Qing Shao [CM5010

Dear council chair:
     Here is my vote for [CM5010] -- YES.

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Date: 20 Jan 1994 21:21:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: my vote

1. HQ's suggested CPA               No.
2. CP5026: ... Finance Committee    No.
3. CP5027: ... Council Bylaw        abstein
4. CP5028: ... "finance-net"        abstein

Dear Chair,

The above is my vote. Thanks

Yungui

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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 01:19:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Hongguang Zhou <[email-masked]>
To: ifcss <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: My Vote

My vote:

1. HQ's suggested CPA               No.
2. CP5026: ... Finance Committee    No.
3. CP5027: ... Council Bylaw        No.
4. CP5028: ... "finance-net"        No.

Dear Chair,

To summarize, my vote is NO. Thanks

Hongguang

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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 02:06:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Cheng Liu <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Vote from Cheng Liu

No    to HQ's selection of Jeff. Lin.
No    to 5026
No    to 5027
No    to 5028

                                              Cheng Liu

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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 03:56:38 -0500
From: Bing Qi <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Vote: from Qi Bing

My vote:

1 CPA proposal by HQ: NO.

2 CP5026: NO

3 CP5027: NO.

4 CP5028: ABSTEIN.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 10:55:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
To: IFCSS Council <[email-masked]>
Cc: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Subject: My Vote (I)

Here is my vote:

** CPA proposal by HQ: NO.

    Even though I used to express my preference on Mr. Jeff Lin while I
talked with Mr. Liu Xiaozhu about ten days ago, I still vote "NO" on it.
It is not a normal procedure for HQ only to initiate such an important
bid and then to ask the Council to vote. (also see my former mail to HQ
in Jan. 18.) To consider the time when HQ announced such a bid, I hate
such a political trick in our IFCSS system!!

** CP5026: I will vote it later.

I'd like to see whether there is an amendment first. If no further
amendment is absorbed, I will vote "NO" on it. I think it is very
inappropreciate in procedure to release the open letter to the public
directly from Finance Committee with no consent of the Council. But to
think about the progress of all disputes from last October, the situation
is not so straightfoward. Meanwhile, such a committee still should
function as to prepare internal decument and to do many homework for the
coming work meeting.

** CP5027: Abstein

I agree with the consent of this resolution. But I prefer to bring it to
the coming work meeting. There are only two more weeks needed to wait for.

** CP5028: NO

The consent of the resolution sounds reasonable and we should ask for
that. But it seems nothing to do with what you intend to effect on. All
the people, in and outside our councils, can set up their private nets if
they like. The name of a net is nothing more than a logo ot token. If
"finance-net" can not be used, we seem no right to prohibite them on
using "ten-ecnanif". So, this resolution seems "good points, but
impracticable".

Liqun Dong
Council member from Northwest

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 13:23:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
To: IFCSS Council <[email-masked]>
Cc: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Subject: My vote on CP5026

After Wang Jing posted her amendment on CP5026, the sponser has not
accepted her amendment after 24 hours. At first, I intended to second
this amendment. But I changed my mind because it might cause many extra
votes to our dear colleagues. So, let's discuss detailedly in the coming
meeting. Rigth now, I vote "NO" on the orignal version.

Liqun Dong
IFCSS Council, Northwest

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 01:06:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
To: IFCSS Council <[email-masked]>
Subject: Shen Tong's Vote

Shen Tong asked me to post her vote on the net.

1. HQ's suggested CPA               No.
2. CP5026: ... Finance Committee    No.
3. CP5027: ... Council Bylaw        No.
4. CP5028: ... "finance-net"        Abstein.

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 00:07:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
To: IFCSS Council <[email-masked]>
Cc: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Subject: Zhang Li's vote

Here is Zhang Li's vote for the resolutions of the e-mail meeting:

1. HQ's suggested CPA               Abstein
2. CP5026: ... Finance Committee    Nay
3. CP5027: ... Council Bylaw        Yea
4. CP5028: ... "finance-net"        Nay

(She called me two hours ago and asked me to post her vote because the
computer lab is closed in the weekend and she will go to work on Monday.)

Liqun Dond (signed)

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:16:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Hongran Fan <[email-masked]>
To: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: my votes

 Hi, here is my votes on the four resolutions. I will say that the initiation
of all these resolutions seem very reasonable, but when you chew them 
over, it
is just tooooo difficult to simply vote Yea or Nay, this may also cause 
by the
limitation of E-mail meeting. Sorry Chengdong who asked everyone to vote 
yea on
all of these resolutions, I might disappoint you by vote something else. But,
believe me, I take my vote very seriously.

1. CPA proposal by HQ : Abstain
I raise my two hands to support CPA audition. But, we, concil members are not
voting machine. If we vote yea on this, then we need to response for the all
subsequential outcome which make it hard to take since we are not involved in
chosing them from the beginning. I don't think I would like to carry the bag.

2. [cp5026], nay
We all appreciate what the FC member do on auditing IFCSS finance, the only
contradiction is toward the opening letter, the only thing we need to  
stop them is to public internal information directly to the public 
without even notice the concil since their position are signed by concil. 
What happen if this letter is in the name of one concil member in FC but 
not FC as a whole, is that OK for any concil member to release  
confidential information which belong to the IFCSS concilto the public at 
all? I think Wang Jing's amandment should be therefore added. We still 
don't want to dismiss FC just want them to work with a right procedure.

3. [cp5027], nay
Again, need to be discussed more on the wording since it is going to be 
law if we pass it here. I think this issue should be discussed over at 
the coming round table meeting in D.C..

4. Open the "finace-net" Nay
I think the initial thinking of this resolution is the other concil 
member who were not directly heavily involved in the IFCSS finance 
auditing would like to hear more often what is the progross on the 
inspection.  I think all the concil members has the right to ask for 
this,  but, on the other hand, the FC members have the right to choose 
the way to communicate to each other and E-mail is a very ecnomic way to 
do. The remaining problem is actually ask the FC report more often to 
the concil on their progress or their problems. If FC did this before, 
them we might avoid many problems which we encountered now. Then this 
resolution need to be amanded.  FC membes have the right to choose the 
way to communicate with each other. I
think E-mail is a very ecnomic way to do so. I think the intial thinking of
this resolution is the other concil members would like to hear from the FC
members about their progress on the IFCSS

 I raise my two hands to support for CPA audition,

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:10:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Feng Zhang-1 <[email-masked]>
To: Liqun Dong <[email-masked]>
Cc: IFCSS Council <[email-masked]>
Subject: My vote

. HQ's suggested CPA                Abstein
2. CP5026: ... Finance Committee    No.
3. CP5027: ... Council Bylaw        Abstein
4. CP5028: ... "finance-net"        Abstein.

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:18:36 -0700
From: WANG YU RAYMOND <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]

1.      CPA proposal by HQ                                      Yes
2.      [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee          Yes
3.      [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw                     Yes
4.      [CP5028] open the "finance-net"                         Abstein

Wang Yu (signed)
Feb. 22, 1994

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:42:48 -0500 (EST)
From: ECHO WANG <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: Wang Jing--vote

From: Wang Jing (signed)
      NE region

To:   IFCSS Council 1st E-mail Meeting

Re:   Vote

Date: January 23, 1994

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1.  Abstein       CPA proposal by HQ

2.  No            [CP5026] temporally inactive Finance Committee

3.  Yea           [CP5027] amendment to council bylaw

4.  No            [CP5028] open the "finance-net"

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