Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 23:06:18 PST Reply-To: ccf-editor@ifcss.org Sender: China-Net From: ccf-editor@ifcss.org Subject: CCF #9313, 11/10/93: "Voices from the Net of Presidents of CSSA" To: Multiple recipients of list CHINA-NT ==+==+==+== C h i n e s e C o m m u n i t y F o r u m ==+==+==+=== Wednesday, November 10, 1993 (Issue No. 9313) +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Chinese Community Forum (CCF) is a journal published on China-Net. CCF is dedicated to the discussion and debate on the issues related to the Chinese community. The opinions expressed here do not necessarily represent the views of the Editorial Board of CCF. Contributions to the discussions and suggestions of new topics are very much appreciated. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Table of Contents Author | # of Lines ============================================================================ 1. Voices from the Net of Presidents of CSSA a. Fund Raising by CSSA at Oregon State University.......Dongsheng Zhou 27 b. A Message on Jiang Zemin's Visit to APEC................Shanji Zhang 47 c. Some Words on 6.4............................S922805@slvaxa.umsl.edu 15 d. 6.4 Movement.................................yfc@gandalf.rutgers.edu 19 2. Opinions and Observations a. Beijing People's Attitudes toward the 2000 Olympic Bid.....Daowei Li 32 b. Random thoughts on IOU's...................................Anzhi Lai 37 3. China Watch a. Article Urges Revival of Daqing, Dazhai Spirit.......................123 b. The Gloomy Traders of Guangzhou.............The Economist, Oct-30-93 52 c. Escape From Hong Kong.......................The Economist, Nov-06-93 19 4. Tidbits from This Year's Election......................................60 5. From the Readers...........................................Huang Tang 26 ===========***==========***==========**==========***==========***=========== From The Editor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In coming issues, CCF is planning to focus on such topics as: the November APEC meeting in Seattle, the interactions between China's ecomonical developments and political changes, and so on. Contributions to these topics and suggested new topics are welcome. ===========***==========***==========**==========***==========***=========== 1. Voices from the Presidents of CSS Organizations.......................136 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following messages are selected from the presidents' email net. The net consists of leaders from more than twenty CSS organizations at present. The presidents use the net to share ideas, opinions and experiences. You may ask your local CSS leader to contact if he/she has not joined in the group.---Editor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1a. Fund Raising by CSSA at Oregon State University.......Dongsheng Zhou 27 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here I would like to share with you some experience and questions on fund raising. Right now it is still the beginning of our terms. In order to serve our members, we have to get money from somewhere. Since June 4th in 1989, the CSSA here at Oregon State Univ only gets a very small portion of its total budget from the Consulate in San Francisco. In some years it got nothing. However, it is functioning well all the time. Our biggest success in raising money is to collect ads for our annual Chinese student directory. We can get about $1000.00 to $1500.00 out of it. We also collect membership fees from our member, usually $5.00 per member. The CSSA here only regards the member fee as a symbol saying that the person is willing to take part in our activities and receive our service. The other thing is to hold some culture exchange events such as China Night and sell tickets. All above basically can guarantee us to earn enough funding for a academic year and do our own without any outer interference. Remember, some group gives you money only when you listen to them. Most of our events are free for our members. These include a lot of movie shows and some small parties. For some big events such as the Spring Festival party when we dine out in a restaurant for the new year eve dinner, we give members discounts. Ultimately our member receive a lot more than the $5.00 dollar fee can offer. And this is why we can hold the Chinese community together so far, to express our wills, do our own. we would like to know how you serve your communities. How to raise your own fundings? Is this a good topic for us to know better how to serve our people? Welcome any opinions on the net. (From: Dongsheng Zhou Oct-8-1993) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1b. A Message on Jiang Zemin's Visit to APEC................Shanji Zhang 47 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a message from one of our CSSA members. Maybe some of us want to do something about it. Dongsheng Zhou, President, CSSA, Oregon State University ---------- Forwarded message ----------- From: (Tim) Shanji Zhang Oct 23 1993 I think it is time for us to act! We should protest the visit of General Secretary of CPC Jiang Zemin to United States. Recently I visited China, I saw the even worse human rights status in China. I witnessed that some students of Peking University were put in jail due to political reasons. I saw the curbless corrupted officials, sucked blood from the ordinary people. They are more greedy, and fearless. I feel like it is the night before the communist mansion collapses! So we should protest the corrupted government! We should protest corrupted party leader! Recently I noticed that there are some erroneous speeches and essays that intend to negate, to deny the 6.4 movement! They are no more than bystanders, but they blamed the student leaders who had risk their lives to fight against communism. No one is perfect! They blame the people's wakening as "People Movement". So we can't help asking: "if there is no awakening of people, what do you depend? Depend on the mercy of the dictators?". If these people don't intend to defame the 6.4 movement, they just be stupid! For every cause, when we do any thing, there are always some people, when they see the dawn of victory, they celebrate, they hail. But when there is difficulty, there is setback, these people are disappointed, they are not only pessimistic themselves, but they also exclaim their wrong opinion to influence others. I read an essay on Hua Xia Wen Zai recently, the author Tang Shan is the representative of this handful group. He call himself a lucky survivor of 6.4, (Xing Cun Zhe), What a shame! If 99 die from 100, the alive 1 is a survivor! In 6.4 movement, there are no survivors, there are only unfortunate martyrs. To these opportunists, success is owe to Xiao-He, defeat is also putting the blame on Xiao-He. So the CSSA should lead us to express our opinion to Jiang Zemin. CSSA should organize the power to protest! Please express my opinion through the network of IFCSS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1c. Some Words on 6.4............................S922805@slvaxa.umsl.edu 15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I may not have the ethical right to say something about 6.4 but I always respect to those who risk their lifes fighting for the better life of Chinese people, especially those normal people who dedicated to that movement in 1989. Nevertheless, I think it is courageous to face our own weakness. A great movement needs to be reviewed and discussed. The more we argued, the more we can purify and improve ourselves, neither it means denying nor it defaming. Even though someone want to deny or defame it, they still have the rights to speaking out. My father is the "right wing" in 1957 because of outspokenness and which causes him nearly whole life. I hate to block someone's mouth! Truth will never be disturbed through debating and arguing. Right? (From: 10/27/93) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1d. 6.4 Movement.................................yfc@gandalf.rutgers.edu 19 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have read two mails about the 6.4 movement. Four years later, people still talk and think about it. However anybody say, 6.4 movement failed. Why? The culture made the final decision! Please stop defaming anybody. We have the same culture. If you are the leaders of government, you must kill the students because you are Chinese in the 20th century. Just as our parents selected the power of king, not Mao! The culture develops us and we develop the culture. The development needs time and process. The most important thing we should do is to give new blood and new spirit to the old culture. I praise well Mr. Lu Xun. He found the point! The failure of 5.4 was due to no time and chance for Chinese to develop the culture. However, we have them now. The peace of the world gives Chinese a good chance. That's everyone's duty to have a strong country to increase our spirit. History does not satisfy everybody! We should feel the clue first and then decide which is good. (From: Nov-1-93) ===========***==========***==========**==========***==========***=========== 2. Opinions and Observations..............................................80 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2a. Beijing People's Attitudes toward the 2000 Olympic Bid.....Daowei Li 32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a recent trip to Beijing, I collected some reactions among Beijing citizens to the 2000 Olympic bid. The followings are what I observed: a) Many people simply don't care about the outcome. b) Many who tend not to like it recalled those ZheTeng (troubles?) during the Asia Games. c) Those who have to "care" include taxi drivers who were forced to pay some yuans for sticker/banner hanging on their own cars. The worst were that one simply was not allowed to refuse to pay. d) Many people did watch TV that night, because this was the only time that they had a chance to watch TV over-night (Tong Xiao). e) Not too much happened after the announcement. Beijing people expected the result. f) Young students held different attitudes than that of the general public. One can tell this difference from those photos on news media. A better example is the following true story from a letter recently sent from Beijing to China Time Weekly: An old lady broke her leg when she went out to pump tap water. She didn't have to do so before when she was in her previous apartment in which the tap water was inside. It was because of the Asia Games that she and many others had to move to a temporary shelter. The government promised them a new housing in two year. Five years passed, she is still living in the shelter. When the old lady was awaken in the hospital, she was murmuring about her promised new apartment. At the very moment, her grandson was with his schoolmates shouting "Olympic for China!" on Beijing's streets... (Forwarded by: Guan Weihe 11-OCT-1993) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2b. Random thoughts on IOU's...................................Anzhi Lai 37 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I feel somewhat relieved when reading today's CND, who carried a brief news on Chinese government's attention to the problem of IOU's. The news says that the CG claimed that all the IOU's issued this summer had been paid back to peasants, and the government is giving the highest attention to this problem. I certainly hope this is true, although, as far as I know, in some remote countryside in Sichuan, some peasants have not been able to cash their 91's IOU's, and it has been very common that the farmers got their IOU's paid more than a year later. We all know also that China's inflation rate at the moment is about 23% annually. It means that, if a farmer sells his product worthing 100 yuans to the government today and if he can only get his money back the same day next year, he will only realize a price of 77 yuans. Even if he manages to get his money in three months, his money will become only 94 yuans. It should be pointed out that the farmers have never got back the interest on their IOU's when they had them paid. This surely is not a problem (at least not an immediate problem) to most of us, or even our relatives (supposedly living in urban areas) in China. Having the experience of about two years as a Zhi1 Qing1, I know how much trouble this is for a farmer. I surely hope that the CG will eliminate completely this kind of conduct, or at least give the interest back to the farmers when paying their IOU's. Another sad fact is the following. The CG did not pay ANY meaningful attention to this problem at all (even though it had been a nationwide practice for a few years) until so many peasants' riots arose in the past year or so and the government felt the threat to its power and social stability. Does this mean that Chinese people can only get their rights protected (or interests taken into account by the government) by means of negative impact? I hope not; however, the more I think about this, the more I feel that the Chinese people (especially the farmers) are lucky this time for not having to endure the extra burden an Olympic effort may bring to them. When I do not see these IOU's, do not see the practice of issuing IOU's, and do not see the practice of mandatory donation, I will most likely be a supporter of hosting an Olympic Games in our country with my real voluntary donation, although it may not mean anything in the eyes of the CG. (From: Anzhi Lai Sep-28-1993) ===========***==========***==========**==========***==========***=========== 3. China Watch...........................................................216 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3a. Article Urges Revival of Daqing, Dazhai Spirit.......................123 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- China - Article Urges Revival of Daqing, Dazhai Spirit (OCT. 18) CHINA INTELLIGENCE REPORT - In Issue No. 81 of "Internal Reference Materials on Industrial Economics," published by the Industrial Economics Association of China, it was reported that not long ago, Comrade Wu Dazhen (6762 1129 7201) of the Metallurgical Economic Development Research Center under the Ministry of Metallurgical Industry, had proposed that the central authorities put forward the call: "In industry, learn from Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation, in agriculture, learn from Huaxi." He said: In the sixties, Chairman Mao put forward the call that industry should learn from Daqing and agriculture should learn from Dazhai. At that time, this was completely correct. At present, we should, like before, advocate the spirit of arduous efforts like that seen at Daqing and Dazhai. At present, the situation is far more prosperous, diverse and complex than it was at that time. However, with respect to an orientation and a road, I believe that our party can still put forward a similar call, a call for industry to learn from Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation and for rural areas to learn from Huaxi. First, let us talk about the Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation's road. After Comrade Deng Xiaoping inspected Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation and affirmed that the Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation's road was correct and good, there seem to have been no dissenting opinions on this point. However, it is possible that people do not have a common understanding as to what the Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation's road actually is. My own understanding is as follows: Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation has, through the two "bases" ("contracts as a base and the people as a base"--- original editor's note), at the same time as swiftly developing production and continually improving economic results, prominently manifested the following two characteristics: First, it has greatly strengthened the economic power of the whole-people ownership system, powerfully consolidated and strengthened the economic basis of socialism and fully brought into play and effectively demonstrated the superiority of the socialist public ownership system. Second, it has given prominence to the position of the working class as masters and strengthened the consciousness of the masses of staff and workers as masters of their own affairs. The first characteristic is necessary so that, in a situation where diverse economic components coexist and the proportion of the nonpublic ownership components is swiftly increasing, we can maintain the prime position of the public ownership system. The second characteristic is necessary so that in a situation where there have appeared quite a number of millionaires and even those who have hundreds of millions of yuan, we can maintain the leading position of the working class and maintain the essential nature of our country. It is based on this understanding that we believe that the road which Shoudu iron and Steel Corporation follows is the true road of socialism with Chinese characteristics. The model provided by Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation is a model which implements the basic line of the party in an overall way. Now, let us look at Huaxi Village. Comrade Li Peng wrote an inscription for the village: "Where the hopes of China's rural areas lie." I believe that this statement is both proper and accurate. My understanding is as follows: These words by Comrade Li Peng indicate that the model constituted by Huaxi Village provides the development orientation for China's rural areas. Everyone knows that Huaxi Village was one of the first villages in the country to become a "100- million-yuan village." We need say nothing here about the speed of its economic development. Huaxi Village was originally named the Huaxi Production Brigade. Back in the seventies, RENMIN RIBAO systematically introduced it as one of the brigades with the highest production in Southern Jiangsu. Previously, it was administered by Suzhou Prefecture, but after the prefecture and city were amalgamated, Huaxi was placed under the jurisdiction of Jiangyin County, Wuxi City. During the process by which Huaxi Brigade changed from being a poor brigade to being a rich brigade, I visited it on numerous occasions. I believe that in the process by which it has seen speedy economic development, Huaxi has also displayed two major characteristics: First, common prosperity. On the several occasions I visited Huaxi, Wu Renbao (0702 0088 1405), the party branch secretary of the village, and the deputy secretary Mao Meiyi (3029 1188 00011) stressed: "We are all well- off households here, and there is only a difference in the degree of wealth. There are no households in economic difficulty, and no households which have become suddenly and exceedingly wealthy." All members of the village draw wages, regardless of whether they work in agriculture, industry, commerce or other spheres. Under the precondition of the tasks of the work posts being completed, the greatest proportional differential between the highest and lowest wage is 3:1. The bonus awards are about one-half the wage amounts, and the differential between bonuses is a little smaller than that between wages. Thus, in the 1987 distribution, the lowest average incomes of households were not less than 1,000 yuan, while the average incomes of the highest earning households were no higher than 10,000 yuan. The second characteristic is that they have greatly raised the socialist consciousness of the peasants and strengthened their concept of the collective. I visited dozens of families and all of them lived in houses in the village built jointly by the villagers and then sold to the respective village families. The size of house varies in accordance with the number of household members. The smallest house has three rooms downstairs and another three upstairs, while the largest has five or six rooms upstairs and another five or six downstairs. Every family has a telephone and a hotel-type bathroom with hot water. None of the members of the village has built their own house and none has engaged in individual operations. It is not that they are not allowed to. Rather, they choose not to, preferring to put all their efforts into collective undertakings. Their slogans are: Love the party, love the country, love Huaxi, love one's family, love one's neighbors, love oneself. They ingeniously blend love for the country, love for the collective and love for the people of the village with a self-respect involving self- strengthening and self-love. In Huaxi Village, no one has exceeded the family planning standards, there is no feudal superstition or gambling and everywhere there is a new atmosphere of a socialist new village. In brief, the continuous strengthening of the collective economy and the continued deepening of socialist education promote each other and permeate each other. In this way, Huaxi Village has traveled a long way along the road of gradually eliminating the differential between industry and agriculture and the differential between urban and rural areas, and of ensuring that the ideology of the masses gradually advances to the level of the working class. Chairman Mao long ago pointed out: "A serious problem lies in educating the peasants." The most important contribution of the Huaxi Village party branch lies in having done this. I propose that Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation on the industrial front and the model Huaxi Village on the rural area front be linked together. The village-run industry of Huaxi is mainly metallurgical industry. Using their words, they are operating a "metallurgical dragon." This increases the possibility of cooperatively linking the Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation and Huaxi. The economic research center under the Ministry of Metallurgical Industry has quite a number of links with Shoudu Iron and Steel Corporation, and it can also develop good links with Huaxi. When these two leaders in industry and the rural areas, which have taken off and soared in the new period, join forces and fly side by side, there may well appear many new things which have not yet been imagined. (From: Chengyan Liu; Source: Beijing JINGJI GUANLI Oct-18-93) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3b. The Gloomy Traders of Guangzhou.............The Economist, Oct-30-93 52 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL of China seems to converge on Guangzhou for the bi-annual trade fair, the 74th of which finishes on October 31st. In the vast complex of pavilions and exhibition halls every province and municipality sets out its stall. Tibetans sell carpets; bearded Muslims from north-western Xinjiang sit rather forlornly in front of meagre displays of Chinese medicine; electronics manufacturers from Shenzhen lay out their wares. The fair dates back to the 1950s, when it was one of the few windows China opened to the world. A hardy bunch of foreign importers would turn up to place their orders for rabbits or pig-bristles. Now piped music and banks of video screens greet tens of thousands of visitors. There is a sharp division of opinion at the 74th fair. Most foreign visitors seem to think things are getting better and better, while many Chinese exhibitors grumble that everything is getting worse. This year China will suffer its first trade deficit since 1989. Part of the problem is a boom in imports, sucked in by an economy growing at least 3% a year. More worrying is a sharp slowdown in the growth of exports, to around 6% a year. The official explanation is that the buoyant domestic economy has diverted goods away from the export market. But macroeconomics are little consolation to Chang Wenjing of the Wuhan Arts and Crafts company, sitting in a cramped stall surrounded by hundreds of miniature plaster-of-Paris models of Father Christmas. Her best designs, she says, are not on display. She hides them in her hotel room to keep them from the eyes of prying competitors. She says she is caught in a squeeze between sluggish demand in the West and high inflation at home. Foreigners are prepared to pay less and less for goods that cost more and more to make. Foreign customers agree that prices are falling and quality and reliability are improving. An Israeli wanting to buy household electrical appliances says he is spoilt for choice; a Pole has just bought a container-load of artificial flowers and trees; a Pakistani buying electronic products thinks prices and quality have improved sharply since last year. Increased domestic competition may be good for the buyer; but it leaves the sellers somewhat aggrieved. Walter Zhao of the Shenzhen branch of China National Import and Electronics Corporation complains that too many exhibitors from too many parts of China are selling the same products, often from the same factory. So they have no way to compete except on prices, which, he laments, are going "down, down, down, day by day". Official Chinese economists like to dismiss the downturn in export growth as a cyclical hiccup. The trade fair suggests something more fundamental. In the 1980s China reaped with great success the benefits of being a new entrant to world markets. But now domestic inflation is already eroding China's biggest comparative advantage--hundreds of millions of cheap labourers. Meanwhile copycat industrialization for export across the country is producing cut-throat competition among Chinese manufacturers for the same shelf-space in bargain basements in the West. (Forwarded by: Changqing Yang ; Source: The Economist, Oct-30-93) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3c. Escape From Hong Kong.......................The Economist, Nov-06-93 19 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- HONG KONG's border with China looks like a cold-war frontier, bounded by a fence 30km (19 miles) long and 4 metres high. At places the fence is draped with the clothes of those who have scaled it in a hurry, and secretly. Hong Kong remains the preferred escape route for various reasons: for political freedom, for the possibility of well paid work. But these days some of the clothes hanging there belong not to those on the inside trying to get out, but to people trying to sneak back into China. The Hong Kong police estimate that about 100,000 people try to cross the border each year, and say that of these 50,000 are arrested. Of the 50,000, at least one-fifth are heading, not for the bright lights of Kowloon and Hong Kong island, but back to China--and the number is rising. It seems that many have found life in the British colony not all it is cracked up to be. Hong Kong has its slums and its homeless, while Southern China increasingly offers well-paid jobs. A simpler way for an illegal immigrant to return to China would be turn himself in to the police. He would then be expelled. It would certainly be easier on the clothes. (Forwarded by: Changqing Yang ; Source: The Economist, Nov-6-93) ===========***==========***==========**==========***==========***=========== 4. Tidbits from This Year's Election......................................60 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It has been said that this year's election of New York City mayor and New Jersey governor is a critical test to the popular sentiment on the domestic policies of the Clinton Administration and Democratic Party. Clinton had come up to NYC twice to campaign for the Democrat incumbent mayor David N. Dinkins. People were also watching the fate of the Democrat incumbent governor Jim Florio in New Jersey. He broke his last election campaign promise of not raising tax by imposing 30% increase on tax. Democrats lost at least three important incumbent positions this time: Mayor of NYC and governors of New Jersey and Virginia. The margins for NYC and NJ were very thin: 50.7:48.3:1.0 in percentage for Republican candidate Rudolph W. Giuliani, Democrat David Dinkins and Conservative and Right to Life Parties' George Marlin in NYC and 50:49 for Republican Christine Todd Whitman and Democrat Jim Florio in NJ. If you look at the differences in number of votes, the margins look even more incredibly thin: The difference for NYC is about 46,000 within 1.8 million total votes, and for NJ about 33,000 within 2.4 million total. Although the supporters to both lost incumbents shouted about recounting, both accepted the defeats gracefully. It is interesting to note that the last campaign in 1989 for the NYC's mayorship was between the same two men, Dinkins and Giuliani, and Giuliani lost with 2% margin. What have led to the almost exact reversal of their fate four year later? Dinkins came to power with the metaphor of "gorgeous mosaic" to promise the healing of racial conflicts. Though his supporter argued that NYC did not follow the riots started in LA indicated the success, many New Yorkers shake their heads. The major attack of Giuliani on Dinkins was the rising crime rates and public's sense on diminishing security of the city's life. The indecisiveness of Dinkins on several nationally known incidents (e.g. in Crown Heights, in Washington Heights, and the boycott on Korean grocery store) showed that he was not up to his promises. Giuliani got his fame as the Federal prosecutor and United States Attorney in Manhattan fighting with organized crimes and Wall Street frauds. Race was a sensitive issue in the campaign. No one raised it until Clinton blasted on the subject. However, it didn't seem to have helped Dinkins, who is the first African-American mayor of NYC, also the first one to lose the first re-election among black mayors in major cities. Many blacks blamed that race had been a factor. Giuliani, an Italian-American, grew up as a Democrat in Brooklyn, went to Catholic high school, turned to become a Republican in mid 1970s when working in DC for Ford Administration, was attacked by some during the campaign as "fascist". But New Yorkers seem to want to give a chance to his combative style of anti-crime campaign. Democrats lost NYC and NJ probably more due to the national anti-incumbency wave rather than their specific policies. NYC passed a referendum on limiting elected city officials to two consecutive terms (8 years). NJ passed a referendum on call of the incumbent officials. The shift among Chinese-Americans is also interesting. Chinese-American politicians have been traditionally dominated by Democrats. This time the Asian community turned its back on Democratic Party by a 2 to 1 margin. Manhattan is Dinkins' stronghold: He got 59 vs 40 % edge over Giuliani there. However, he lost to Giuliani in Chinatown. His lack of determination to assert justice let the boycott to Korean store dragged for eight months. That certainly did a lot of damages to the Asian community's support to Democrats. As Asian-Americans become more politically conscious, the time for the Democrat to take for granted in getting the support from them is over. (From: Ning Luo Nov-9-93) ===========***==========***==========**==========***==========***=========== 5. From the Readers...........................................Huang Tang 26 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Editor wrote in the Section "From The Editor" of CCF #9310: Most of us have witnessed the achievements made by IFCSS in both protecting the interests of CSS in the US and improving the human rights record in China in the last four years. IFCSS has shown with its practice that it has become an experienced and strong CSS organization representing the interests of most CSS in US. Mr. HUANG TANG commented on Oct-27-93: IFCSS might have achieved a big deal to provide GC, but did it achieve anything to improve the human rights in China? I doubt it. I also doubt IFCSS represents the interest of CSS as a whole. Maybe CSPA beneficiaries may say differently. But, I'll bet (?) that any political party, bad or good, which can promote green cards for CSS, might get the same 'support' as well. Does IFCSS have the same feeling? As an organization claiming to represent the wide spectrum of CSS, it can not be one which is pre-occupied with political activities, especially doing things harmful to Chinese interest in home (against MFN etc). In this sense, IFCSS is an out-and-out political party, rather than the organization representing CSS in the whole. If it keeps on doing the way it did as before, it should come as no surprise that IFCSS is going to die away soon... 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