Subject: Special report: LCnet newsrelease081793

From: Mi Mi <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 11:07:11 EDT

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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 23:55:38 CDT
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			TABLE OF CONTENTS
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	1. News from INS
	2. Information on EP2, EP3 and CSPA's Effects
        3. Part of CND's News on LAD Issue
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1. News from INS
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  Mr Shuren Zhang called Ms Rita Boie, of INS, this morning. Here is what he
got from her.

  (1) A LAD will not be allowed to use EP2 unless the principal has
      filed under EP2.   All other LAds will file appliaction under EP3,
      soly from China's quota, not from quota allocated worldwide.
      EP3 has become current this month. If EP3 quota are not enough
      this year, some LADs will wait to use EP3 quota next year,
      and on and on.

  (2) An illegally-entered Chinese national  can file under CSPA IF
      he came before 4/11/90 and has granted an advance parole and came
      back to US with the advance parole.

                                                      LC Working Committee

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2. Information on EP2, EP3 and CSPA's Effects on LCs
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(1) Message from a LCnet Reader

Editors:

I got some important facts about EP2 and EP3 and the negtive effects of
CSPA on us LCs:

An outstanding applicant applied for a job in a big company in USA.
He was refused because the company thought it's really hard to apply for GC
for him now. The job was an assistant research staff.
So his GC would  be from EP3. Therefore the company felt it's almost impossible
to apply GC for Chinese employees. The company has refused all applicants
from PRC without GC.

I was told that job offers from small companies often involve EP3, not EP2.

Application for CSPA is available till 7/1/1994. So a lot of people with their
EP immigration application in progress generally stay and wait until next year
to apply for CSPA. An immigration attorney said that EP2 will not be current
in 18 months. People who have applied EP GC will wait until next year to apply
for CSPA. They do not withdaw the EP GC application. Some one told me that they
can save tax-paying this year in this way.

Conclusion: CSPA and implementation of LAD issue makes LC feel the defect
already and MORE Serious than we expected.

Another non-refugee Chinese Student
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(2) A Post from soc.culture.china

Editors' note: This article was written by an activist working for LATE-
ARRIVING-DEPENDENTs. The opinions expressed here have nothing to do with
the LC Working Committee.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Illegal Immigrants and CSPA

Q: Why should we push lads in to world quota?
A: To speed up lads application for PR;
   To save China quota for LC.
Q: How about to restrict lads in certain China's categories so that LC will
   not be hurt?
A: You never know which categories LC will use;
   You can not regulate which categories Lads should apply.
Q: By using EB3 only, LC will not be hurt, it that true?
A: No.
   To qualify for a PR under Employement Based Categories, you must have a Job.
   The job has to meet certain requiremnts:
   1) Salary; 2);Qualification of the applicant for that job;
   3) no USC or PR with that qualification can be found;
   4) the boss is willing to sponsor you.
   Say, you see a Ad. in a paper. It requires M.S., offers 3k. After fierce
   competition, you get the job, and you boss is willing to sponsor you.
   You think you meet all the above, and file for PR under EB2. You are sure
   that your American dream comes true.
   Well. INS finds out, with 2), the guideline of INS says the minimum salary
   acceptable for USC and PR is 4k, that is why you get the offer
   (unfortunately, that is ussualy true). So your PR application is rejected.
   Then you are left with two choices (a) increase 1) to 4k, (b) lower 2) to
   B.S. By doing 1), the new ad. attractes 400 USC and PR applicants, so you
   are out of the game; or, you pay tax for 4k income while your salary is
   still 3k. (you have to do so until you get your PR). Then doing 2) is the
   best choice. At this time, you find EB3 is full of lads. You must wait 4
   years for your turn under EB3, but your H-1 expires in 3 years and you
   can not extend it any more. So both EB2 and EB3 are no good for you and
   you are lossing time. Then you find a girl/boy who agrees to marry you
   and help you out. At this point, you suddenly find out, the family based
   category are full of lads too. You are queued for 4 years. And
   unfortunately, your marriage does not last that long. Is that too late
   for you to find out the truth and real impact of lads problem?
If you have read through World Journal's Immigration Section for years and
have friends who went through PR process, you will know it is not so simple
and you might think twice now.

Some major developments will screw you up even worse.

1) Illegal immigrants under CSPA may be able to apply PR.
   (see recent reports on World Journal)
2) Illegal immigrants came after 4/11/90 may convince INS they came before
   that date and INS is hopelessly incapable of screening them out.
3) People from other countries can claim they are PRC nationals under CSPA.
4) Sluggish economy prevents you from finding a decent job.
5) There are many other interest groups who want to utilize CSPA to make big
   bucks. American Immigration Lawyers Association is eager to help illegal
   immigrants to apply under CSPA. Estimated tens of thousands illegal
   immigrants means billions of dollars, and that is good for them.
6) There are many other interest groups who want to keep lads out of
   world-quota to save for their own ethnic groups.
7) etc. etc...

With lads jammed in China's quota, you will have to  ....  Scared?

A checklist of what you can do

1) Kill CSPA -----------------------------> Too late. It is the law.          No
2) Kick lads out of the game -------------> Impossible. It is against the law.No
3) Jump into the race now ----------------> Impossible if you are in school.  No
4) Wait until you graduate ---------------> Too late to do anything.          No
5) Support IFCSS to lobby for world-quota-> It is up to you                  Yes
6) Persuade American Immigration Lawyers Association to lobby for world-quota.
   That means billions of dollars for them.---> It is up to you              Yes

Wake up, my LC brothers and sisters! Support IFCSS and lads network to push
for world quota!

The above is for your information only.
The author assumes no legal responsiblilities about the accuracy and the
reliability of any kind for the information provided. Please consult your
lawyer and use your own discretion before you use the information printed
in this package to make decision(s) on related matter.

Mi Mi

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3. Part of CND's News on LAD Issue
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Editors' note:
We are enclosing a part of CND's news on LAD issue. As the editors of
LCnet and members of LC Working Committee, we appeal for the attention
of IFCSS and some ECs: Don't go too far!!!!

                           CND (US Regional)
Information Exchange (XIV): About Preparing to Apply for U.S. PR Under CSPA
                         Saturday, June 26, 1993

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6. Zhao Haiching Meets White House Officials on CSPA Regulations;
   Background Information on Ineligible Dependents and Quota Issues .... 125
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>From: "Ying Q. Ji" <[email-masked]> Fri, 25 Jun 1993 19:18:37
Abridged by CND-US

           Dr. Zhao Meeting in White House on INS Regulations

[..... much deleted]
IMMIGRATION BACKLASH

We are not the only group upset with the implement. The American Immigration
Lawyers Association has indicated they may sue the Justice Department. They
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are upset that visa numbers that would otherwise go to the dependents of
other immigrant groups will now go to Chinese nationals.  During the debate
on the legislation, they were assured this would not happen.

In addition, there are reports that other organizations that represent other
nationalities may seek go back to the Congress and ask for legislative
amendments to reverse the implementing regulations.  This could adversely
impact upon the gains we have received under the Protection Act.

In addition, the political climate in the U.S. right now towards immigration
is bad.  The situation for Chinese nationals is particularly worse because
of widespread recent publicity on Chinese illegal boat people. The press
has focused on this illegal immigrant group.  Some people in the U.S.
political circle even purposely link the boat people with our Act.  For
example, there are TV commentators who publicly accuse Nancy Pelosi to pass
legislation to grant 80,000 illegal Chinese people permanent residence.  This
situation certainly hindered our ability to push for better regulations and
it will also negatively impact on many eligible Chinese nationals in their
applications.

As a result, we feel it is very important to get everyone in the U.S. covered
as soon as possible.  Events beyond our control could cause unforeseen
consequences in the future.

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Editors' note:
Please distribute this news-release to your LC friends, or tell them the
sign on address (inside the box below). Thank you.

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