Subject: Special Report

From: Mi Mi <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 11:22:30 EDT

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Dear Lads-netters:

Since most of lads have filed their application forms, fewer and fewer postings
are seen on this net. While most lads are resuming their normal routine lives,
the lads problem is still far from being solved. We still have the following:

	(1) Visa quota allocation.
	(2) DED dependents
	(3) Voluntary departure program.
	(4) People who entered without inspection.

Although aforementioned problems are far more complicated than the information
sharing problems, and the lads-net Committee is a volunteer group which has
limited resources and manpower, the lads-net Committee, however, is resolved to
serve the whole lads community on this matter.

The 5th IFCSS is mainly composed of new comer students. Inevitably, this
landslide change brings policy changes. As post-CSPA era begins, IFCSS strives
to serve the new comers community, which had been paid little attention by
previous IFCSS terms. By no way, we are assured, the early comers will be
forgotten. Instead, the 5th IFCSS vows to serve the CSS community as a whole.
Since new comers are not protected by CSPA, certainly they need more attention
and help from IFCSS.

We have noticed that a newly founded new comers group, Late Comer Working
Committee, or New Comer's Organization (NCO), has actively participated in
the current CSPA and IFCSS affair. By contacting the Chairman of NCO, and
friendly communication with his staff, we have established a very friendly
relationship with them, and possible collaboration in the future.

The main conflict, however, do exist. As lads are still subject to
China quota, the estimated 8000 lads of CSS community will jam China's
EB3 and FB2 categories for years. While most new comer students are going
to use these two categories, the serious backlog does hinder their efforts
to obtain the permanent residency. As for most lads, the prospective
long waiting period is not so happy to accept. Besides, there are still
other problems left unsolved which further complicate the plight of both
new comer students an lads.

New development to implement CSPA:

Illegally entered Chinese may be able to apply under CSPA:
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We called Ms Rita Boie, of INS, this morning. Here is what we got from her.

  (1) A LAD will not be allowed to use EP2 unless the principal has
      filed under EP2.   All other Lads will file application under EP3,
      solely from China's quota, not from quota allocated worldwide.
      EP3 has become current this month. If EP3 quota are not enough
      this year, some Lads will wait to use EP3 quota next year,
      and on and on.

  (2) An illegally-entered Chinese national can file under CSPA IF
      he came before 4/11/90 and has granted an advance parole and came
      back to US with the advance parole.

                                                 LC Working Committee
                                                 August 17, 1993
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The impact of this policy change, will add substantially to the pool
of existing CSS-lads with unspecified number of IIer-lads. This group
of lads will be queued ahead of most new comer students.

As Mi Mi, a member of lads-net Committee, wrote to Ms. Wang Jing, Chair
of Infor & Survey Committee of IFCSS Council:
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Ms. Wang Jing

Hi. I, Mi Mi, from lads-net fully support your proposal on NCO.
As matter of fact, I had seen a lot of confusion and fighting on the net
when LCnet was connected with Yeh Shannon. As we lads-net saw the IFCSS
lost its steam to push CSPA implementation further, all of us lads were
somewhat disappointed. When we learnt that Liu Chengyan was invited to
attend IFCSS Teleconference last week, we decided to take a step forward.
Needless to say, all of us lads-netters and committee members appreciate
the tremendous efforts to achieve CSPA and its implementation. Whatever
decided by IFCSS for post-CSPA policy change is understandable. We as
beneficiaries of past IFCSS efforts can not ask more, otherwise we are
too greedy and selfish. To our LC brothers and sisters, we the lads
committee firmly believe, that communication and cooperation, mutual
understanding and solidarity are what we want. After one week
communication, we get very positive response from our LCnet committee.

As matter of fact, many ECers are paying their attention to somewhere
else. While lads are located in China's quota, and will be possibly
jamming  China's quota for many years to come, their principals are
not so much concerned about the waiting period. As one of my friends
pointed out, his wife can wait 6 year until her H-1 visa expires. During
that time, he probably gets citizenship, and in no way he should panic.
Some minor children can wait even longer. My daughter is 9. My only
concern is she gets her GC when she is ready for college. That is
almost ten years later. Of course some elder children are closer to
college and they are worried. But the population is quite small. So the
most urgent problem is for LCs, not for lads.

As matter of fact, passing another CSPA is almost impossible. What we
can do is to make room for LC by removing lads from China quota.
As the new interpretation made clear by Madam Rita Boie, IIers with
Advanced Parole can apply under CSPA. Further, the possibility of
allowing IIers with only Work Permits, even without any thing may be
allowed to apply also, still exists. With most CSS lads have filed already,
their lads inevitably have gotten more favorable priority dates
then anyone else, i.e., they are queued much ahead of the others.
So the policy change does not effect CSS lads too much, unless for
someone who is still in China. But the impact on the LC is imminent.
Those IIer lads will compete with LC, worse, be queued ahead of them.
When the spirit of CSPA is humanitarian and protection, it will be
ridiculous and self-destructive for IFCSS to oppose the inclusion
of these IIers. The best and only strategy for IFCSS, is to work
toward world quota.

I think, this point, as a major task aimed at helping our LC
brothers and sisters, should be included in your resolution.

Sincerely yours,

Mi Mi

Member of
Lads-net Committee
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As an active entity which is still working on CSPA,
we have tried to communicate with Dr. Zhao and his NCCA.

As Li Y-H, member of lads-net Committee wrote:

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To:		Dr. Haiching Zhao and National Council on Chinese Affair

>From:		Lads Network Committee

Date:		August 18, 1993

Subject:	Information Exchange And Collaboration

Dear Dr. Zhao Haiching and National Council on Chinese Affair:

	First, we would like to thank you for your tireless efforts
in achieving the CSPA and various issue concerning CSS community,
and providing valuable information to our late-arriving-
dependents (LAD) network members.

	Our network, which was established on July 26, is expanding
very fast. Now, we have over 1000 members and 10 volunteer
committee members nation wide.

	In the past days, we did a great job in providing
information exchange through the network and help late-arriving-
dependents file application for PR. Up to now, most of the late-
arriving-dependents have successfully filed their application and
we received fewer and fewer questions about filing I-485 or I-824
forms from our netters.

	The current agenda of our network is to push late-arriving-
dependents into the world quota. In order to achieve our goals,
in addition to talking to IFCSS, early-comers and late-comers, we
want to have best collaboration with you and your council
members.

	In our estimation, there are about 6000 late-arriving-
dependents. If we let them stay in China quota, only these late-
arriving-dependents will make the backlog of China EB-3 at least
two years longer.

	From World Daily reports and confirmed by Ms Rita Boie
herself, "An illegally-entered Chinese national can file under
CSPA if he came before  April 11, 1990 and has granted an advance
parole back to US". If it is true, more and more late-arriving-
dependents will be created.

	Based on the humanitarian reasons implanted in the E.O.12711
and CSPA, there is still possibility that some illegally-entered
Chinese nationals with Work Permit, or even without any benefits
they have claimed from E.O. 12711 will be allowed to apply under
CSPA. And there might be fraud claims made by those who came
after April 11, 1990. While we can not prevent those added CSPA
applications, their newly created late-arriving-dependents surely
are causing panic among our late-comers community, and bitter
confrontation between late-arriving-dependents and late-comers.
If that should happen, that will be a great tragedy to CSS
community. As up to now, after sincerely consultations and
discussions, we have established regular and friendly
relationship with the late-comers network committee. We believe
confrontation only make enemies but friends. We need friends but
enemies. Based on this mutual believe, we are well received by
the late-comers network committee.

	In order to benefit our whole Chinese community, especially
the late-comers, we believe that it is extremely urgent for us to
work together and solve this late-arriving-dependents problem.
The best solution is to push the late-arriving-dependents into
world quota.

	We need to communicate to each other and seek different
strategies to lobby this issue. We need leadership and
coordination to conduct the concert.

	We believe that you, Dr. Zhao,  as a tireless democratic
fighter and reputed leader of IFCSS and NCCA, have the
credibility and reputation to take the lead. If you need any help
from this network or you want to post any information to this
network, please mail to:

 	[email-masked]

Sincerely Yours,

Lads-net Committee
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Dear netters, as to strive our goals, mainly to push lads into the
world-quota, we need your support. As number does matter, we also need
help from our new comer students community. As the new move will benefit
both groups, we shall work together. Hope you will bring more new comer
students to this common goal.

United, we can make a differnce!

Mi Mi
Member
Lads-net Committee