Subject: LADs' applications

From: HY <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 08:23:00 CST

Hi Dear friends:

I just came back from my holiday vocation and found lots of mails here.

I respect Mr. Phil's excellent work.  I also value Mi Mi Sr.'s info.

It has become pretty quiet in LAD net recently. I am not blaming anybody
here as nobody owes anything to us just as somebody said that even the LAD
net was set up and managed by the volunteers.

But, the thing is as more than half of the local INS offices still hold LADs'
applications for almost five months without the interview or any response.
We, the LADs, deserve an answer what's going to happen to these cases. We
have the right.

I don't agree with the opinion that INS treat all PR applicants as either
CSPAer or ordinary PR applicant.  as an CSPAer, he/she will not take the
interview generally; as an ordinary PR applicant, the local INS will schedule
an interview for him/her within 90-120 days.  Since more than half of the LADs
have been waiting for a response from the local INS for more than 5 months,
so they do treat the LADs as a special group.  The info. I got from INS also
shows this point.

The local INS offices do have a special instruction to deal with this
special group of applicants, which is the INS cable.  The LADs' applications
should be considered as the EB-3 applications.  It should not take so much
time to get the interview for EB-3 applicants.  I have tried to contact
some INS officers as well as somebody in our society, but so far no positive
answer has come up yet.

PS. Happy New Year everybody!

LX

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 10:09:27 CST

/Hi Dear friends:
/
/I just came back from my holiday vocation and found lots of mails here.
/
/I respect Mr. Phil's excellent work.  I also value Mi Mi Sr.'s info.
/
/It has become pretty quiet in LAD net recently. I am not blaming anybody
/here as nobody owes anything to us just as somebody said that even the LAD
/net was set up and managed by the volunteers.
/
/But, the thing is as more than half of the local INS offices still hold LADs'
/applications for almost five months without the interview or any response.
/We, the LADs, deserve an answer what's going to happen to these cases. We
/have the right.
/
/I don't agree with the opinion that INS treat all PR applicants as either
/CSPAer or ordinary PR applicant.  as an CSPAer, he/she will not take the
/interview generally; as an ordinary PR applicant, the local INS will schedule
/an interview for him/her within 90-120 days.  Since more than half of the LADs
/have been waiting for a response from the local INS for more than 5 months,
/so they do treat the LADs as a special group.  The info. I got from INS also
/shows this point.
/
/The local INS offices do have a special instruction to deal with this
/special group of applicants, which is the INS cable.  The LADs' applications
/should be considered as the EB-3 applications.  It should not take so much
/time to get the interview for EB-3 applicants.  I have tried to contact
/some INS officers as well as somebody in our society, but so far no positive
/answer has come up yet.
/
/PS. Happy New Year everybody!
/
/LX

Good point!  Does it mean that INS either will let us wait for much longer
time or they will treat our cases as a special group in a snap time soon?

GC

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From: [email-masked] (lin huang)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 12:00:09 CST

As LX pointed out, "as an ordinary PR applicant, the local INS will
schedule an interview for him/her within 90-120 days". If this is true,
then because most lads filed in August-September, then now is time for them to 
get an interview. I remembered many LADs had posted info for interviewing
during October and November, and some were granted GC already. We can not
get a clear picture on how many percentage are being interviewed, and how
many are not, since the tendency of staying in this netland for almost 
every netter is need based, that is, if there is no problem and
interest, almost everyone will leave without notice. Based such
assumption, any survey will have a strong bias. The list does give us a
clear picture on where some LAD are still waiting, but you can not tell if 
ALL of them are waiting. 

On the list, we can see the WP is granted almost everywhere. That is not
a problem since any pending application should have a WP. The wait for
quota under GC column is nothing unussual since the priority date now is
July 1, and every body should wait if there is no quota. The local INS
can not grant you a visa if they do not have any themselves. The only thing
we worry is the NO under interview and we should investigate what is
happening. 

As the CSPA lad, I must say it is not a different category from all the
other EB-3 applicants. Worse, since the CSPA does not cover lad, many
lad were not allowed to adjust status just because their principals
filed I-485. This was corrected later by the INS HQ because the strong 
pressure from concerned parties. But, any farther special treatment IS
denied by the INS, based on the law CSPA and INA themselves (please
refer to the letter from INS to this net). So, I do not think there is
any room left for us to push INS in general. Any guys want to try again
of course are welcomed, and I suggest that another working committee 
be set up and run by a group of volunteers. The only problem for the net
is that our system manager is getting a new position other than spike,
so we might lose our system prety soon. So, we must arrange another host
if spike is no more. One possibility is, we might be able to move this net to
IFCSS.ORG, but we are not sure at this time. If any one has the
potential to host this net, please let us know.

Mi Mi Sr.

:wq

.

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From: [email-masked] (lin huang)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 19:49:42 CST

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Dear friends:
Do we need to donate money to hire a good lawyer to push INS for Lads ?
In my point view most lads will NOT be granted "GC" , or get approved in
years. Everyone is waiting for INS's favor and do nothing.
Since Ladnet was created , Nothing is done except the petition letter and the
response of this petition letter was expected and no surprise.
We need look into the INS ACT carefully and fight with INS if they violated
the regulations. We need to somthing and not jost collecting information.
WE need a good lawyer to help us and do a full time job for us.
I am not sure how much cost for hiring a lawyer , but at least we can explore
this matter.
I am sort of disappointed with our ladnet has done, hut as matter of fact
there are not many things we can do.
We need a lawyer for all lads.

R.Ding