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Dear Balaji,
 
Good work. I shall write a few more .
 
dAsan
vanamamalai padmanabhan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:38 AM
Subject: [Oppiliappan] Thirukural Written using Thiruvaaimozhi - Part 1,Comparisons !!!

                                          Shri:
      Shri Kaarimaaran Thaal saranae kathi veru-Yenakkey


Dear Bhagavathaas/Bhaktaas/Mumukshus/Vaishnavaas/Silent Observers

 

Pranaams.


I am surprised that Thiru-vaai-mozhi and Thiru-kural are
going in parallel.

 

(Notes: I am not detailing paasurams./vyakyaanam to explain the meaning.

Please refer to vyakyaanam,thirukural,thiruvaaimozhi.

My intention Is to ..,  make sure even a common man can get an  (a message)

idea of my email without  Knowing the Nuts and Bolts of  prabandham.

& also readable for those who are not fully aware of paasurams.

So story telling /Essay style is my intention !!!. )

 

This implies that one has used other's work as Reference !!!

If you look at kaari-maaran & thiruvalluvar,  it is clear that both their

Objective in the literature is different. Kaarimaaran is unidirectional in

Thinking. He wants to think none other than our Almighty. ?Ref : 3.9

Sonnaal Virothamithu  Aakilum solluvaen kenmino ! (All 10

paasurams)? That means his thoughts are Unidirectional !  where as for

Thiruvalluvar It is multi directional ( Kadambam ) thinking. It covers

entire life cycle. With various Dimension  !!  There fore  it is clear

that kaari-maaran  thoughts are own !!! and thiruvalluvar is writing

the literature based on real time experiences and rewriting good

thoughts of others in simple words. My Kaari Maaran is also

?Mayar-vara...!?. Therefore Thiruvalluvar has  extensively used

Thiru-vaai-mozhi for acquiring base knowledge for his Thiru-kural.

 

I am slowly deriving (or say comparing)to compose with my

-little knowledge that Thiru-kural and Kaarimaaran's

Thiru-vaai-mozhi are going in parallel (same word/meaning).

You are welcome to share your views/add some more !!!


These are some of list of matches , i have discovered so far

with my little knowledge compared to giants like you all ,

?for ??, I am a beginner ?!

 

COMPARISONS :

Example # 1

==========

Our Kaarimaaran says (Ref : 5.3.4)

   "Ooravar Kauvai eruvittu Annai Sol-Neer-maduthu"

 

  Thiru-Valluvar uses this Same Word , Same lining without any

    change :

 

Thirukural -  ( Alar-Arivurutal Athikaaram  )

   ?Ooravar Kauvai eruvaaga Annai Sol
    Neeraaga Neelum in-noi?


Another example  Ref :  5.3.10
      ?Yaam madal oornthum Aali yankai-piraan-udai....?

 

Thirukural - Alar-Arivurutal
       ?Thaam vendin nalkuvar kathalar Yaam vendum
        Kauvai yedukkum iv-voor.?

 

Example # 2

==========

   FAMOUS PAASURAM !! (KILL THE I,MINE FROM YOUR MOUTH)

 

 THIRU-VAAI-MOZHI  - Ref 1.2
 ? Neer numathu  yendrivai- Vare muthal maithu   Irai saermin ..

    Uyirku athan nae nirai Yillay !!! ?


Thirukural also uses Same wording &  same Meaning ! No Change !!!

 

Thiru-Kural 
==========

  "Yaan Yenathu Yennuj Serukku-aruppaaan
   Vaanorkkum uyarntha ulagam pugum"

 

Example # 3
==========

  
   
Entire ?Nedumaarku Adimai?  (Ref 8.10.X) can be

   summarised as emphasizing bhagavatha sambandam !!!


 
Thirukural:
   =======

     This matches with  "Sitrinam Seraamai" Athikaaram  

    (10 kurals).    I will use one kural.

 

   " Nilath-Iyalvaan Neer thirinthu Aatragum MAantharku
     Inath-iyal-va Thaagum Arivu"

 

     In this example, The essence of Good (company)

     association is emphasized and elaborated in classic 10

     kurals.


Example #4

=========

 

Why struggle this much  ?

====================

 

Let us take first Paasuram Uyar-vara Uyar-Nalam (Ref :1.1.1)

   "  Thuyar aru sudar adi Tholuthu Yelu yen mananey "

     same meaning implied  by valluvar

 

    Thirukural - First Athikaaram

 

  ?Thanakku-uvamai illathaan thaal sernth-tharkku allal

    Manak kavalai maatral arithu?
    
 Another example.

     ?Eedum Yeduppum iL Easan  Maadu vidaathu Yen Mananey?  Ref 1.7

    

   Kural - (First Athikaaram)

      ?Venduthal Vendaamai Ilaan adi sernthaarkku....
       Yaandum idumbai Ila?

 

I have randomly picked up one or two examples.
There are lots of examples Which i will add it when i find out or
you may also add it.

 

Example #5:

==========

Thiruvaaimozhi Ref 1.2

 

"Odunga Avan kan Odunga Yellam Vidum
 pinnum Aakkai vidumpoluthu Yeannay" 


Thirukural: ( 2 Kurals. Same Meaning !)

 

?Saarbu unarnthu Saarbu Keda Olukin  Matru-Alithuch
  Saar Tharaa Saar tharu Noi?

 

 ?Patruka Patru Atraan Patrinai Ap-Patrai
   Patruka Patru Vidarku?


Other References : -

==============

a). Accurate reference :

================= 

 This time .., message is stolen from Pongum parivu azhwar

 (Periazhwar) !

 

Thirukural :

========
?Aiyathin Neengi thelin-thaarkku vaiyathin
  Vaana Naniya thudaithu?

 

Periazhwar Thirumozhi :

 

?Ak-karai Yennum Manathak Kadalul Alunthi un per-arulaal
 Ik-karai Yeri Ilaithiruntheynai..... ?  Ref:5.3.7

 

b.) Mumukshuppadi Reference :

 

    Sutram :  "Thannai Kandaal Paambai Kandaap poley"

 

     Who is a Mumukshu ?  

 

             He who sees himself as Snake is Mumukshu !!!

 

                               DERIVED FROM THIRU-VAAI-MOZHI  !!!

 

    Thiru-vaai-Mozhi :      Ref ; 10.7.9,  10.7.10, 10.7.11

 

   ?Vaazhi Manamey Kaividael ..,  Udalum Uyirum Manga Wottaey !?

   ?Manga Wottu?un-Maa-Maa-yei-yei? 10.7.10

   ?Maana-aangaara manam keda 10.7.11

 

     (Reference  P.B.A  Swamy  Vyakyaanam ).  This paasuram emphasize

     that One has to give up the desire in this Alukku body  &  Abandon

     the body and Catch hold of sar-ves-waran (Anthima-smaranai). 

 

    Thiru-Kural :(same meaning,wordings are easy to remember !)
    ========

     "Matrum Thodar Paadu Evan kol pirappu-arukkal
      Utraarkku Udambum Mikai"

 

    Thiru-vaaimozhi ,Pillai Lokaa-charyaar ,Thiruvalluvar ?s Thirukural 

    All saying the same message.

 

    But Kaari-maaran is the origin & source of  Knowledge.


c.) Our Saasthraas says   " Jnaana  Naan  Moksha:ha"


Only through knowledge you can attain Moksham.

 

Same implied(Complimented) by Thiruvalluvar

  

"Katru-Eendu Mei-porul kandaar Thalai paduvar
  Matru-Eendu vaaraa Neri"


Classic Kural & Shri vaishnavism:-

 

ENTIRE SHRI VAISHNAVISM CAN BE STARTED WITH ONE
(OR SAY PUT UNDER ONE ROOF)  THIRU-KURAL

 

PIRAPPU-YENNUM PEY-THAMAI NEENGA SIRAPPU YENNUM

SEM-PORUL KAAN-BATHU ARIVU"


d.) I sometimes hum a movie song :
 
    "Oru ganam oru yugam aaga ?..yen poga vendum-mo?" 
      in one of Tamil movies

   

    This song is also derived/implied from Thiru-vaai-Mozhi !!!.

 

     Our kaari maaran has used this same word & meaning
    (Ref : 10.3.1) , Same song Situation , indeed/nevertheless 

    same characters.

 

     "Aa-maruvu ina nirai meykka pokku ....,
          oru pakal Aayiram ooliyaalo" !!!

 

Sari..,  Why we talk of movie song in siddantham(religion )!!! 

the reason is ?,  you will never forget , Athaa-vathu?,

dhiris-taan-dham  ! (Exaample)


Yellam
Sari thaan , Why i am saying all this ?
===================================

when someone is speaking of(or emphasizing) Thiru-kural
before you , you should be silently smiling that
they are indeed spelling the glory of Our Kaarimaaran !!!

Kaarimaaran, The ,..Very root of ... our siddantham !!!

 

"Maaran Adi-paninthu uyinthavan" - Ramanuja Nootranthaathi-1


Vaasaga thosham santhavyaha

 

Adiyaen

 

 -  Kaari-maaran's Dog  (with koolai vaal)

 

Follow-up requested !!!

 

(If you know more of ,Please add your discoveries/knowledge, 

Let us name this e-mail as Series(Episode) # 1 )

 

 

 

 

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