Dear Sri Gopalam Karamchedu : Thanks for your posting . At one time , Thiruppathy/Thirumala was the northern boundary of Tamizh speaking people . Vangipuram (Vengipuram) , Saatlur (ChEtlUr? ) vamsams of AchAryaas and others advanced Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham . During the disturbances of Muslim invasions , many left for the safety of Cauvery Delta . Two of the three stalwarts of Karnatic Music came from their villages in Rayala Seema (St. Thyagaraja) and elsewhere in Telugu dEsam . Thirumala was the magnet . Great kings like KrishNa deva Nayak advanced the cause of VaishNavism both in Telugu speaking land and in the Tamil Speaking land . >From Telugu speaking land , VaishNavism spread onward north to BihAr , Orissa , Bengal and RaajasthAn during AchArya RaamAnujA's time . Today's posting by Srimans Venkataraman DhivAkar about VaishNavam in Telugu speaking land and in BihAr would be of interest to list members . Sri RaamAnuja Daasan , V.Sadagopan ----- Original Message ----- From: "K.B. gopalam" <alamkbg@xxxxxxxxx> To: <parakalamatham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: [SriParakalaMatham] Vaishnavas in AP. > > > Srimate ramanujayanamaha! > Srimadabhinava Ranganatha Parakalamahadesikaya Namaha! > > The discussion regarding the Hebbar ayyangars is > intersting. > > I belong to a group of Ayyangars from Telangana in > andhra Pradesh. I only know that my forefathers came > to this state on the invitation of The Nizam of > Hyderbad who wanted some regular Araadhanam in the > Vaishnavite temples in his Kingdom. > > We do not have marital relations with the other > Vaishnavites in the state. > > There were some families who came to Andhra Pradesh > because of teh temple at Tirumala. They are still > known as Tirumala Vamsham and many sub groups have > arisen out of it. Perhaps many families have come to > Tirumala to look after the nitya Kainkaryam of Swmy at > Tirumala. > > We do not belong to such Tirumala clan either. > > Is therea town in Karnataka by name Karamchedu or > Karamchade? > > There is another surname for some of our families > namely Aasooru. One of my elder clam man told that it > could be Hosuru. > > The disinterst of the people of earlier days in > putting anything writing has created a void in the > micro history of some clans. > > I was told there is/was one Dr. Dhanammal in Mysore > who conducted some researah into the social history of > Vaishanavas. Is her work available anywhere to read? > > Interestingly we also do not speak or write Tamil! > We follow all the traditions otherwise! > Divya Prabandham though a necessary part of rituals is > not very popular with us. No one knows it by heart > perhaps. There are some who can do the Pustaka Patham. > They also do not know the meaning of it. Even > Tiruppavai is only a ritualistic recitation with us. > Not many know it fully know it and understand the > meaning. Only in major cities like Hyderabad the > Festival and discourses in Telugu about Tiruppavai > take place. Not in all the villages where the group is > spread. Those elders who perform Araadhanam daily know > it and recite it just like any other part of the > ritual. > > > Interstingly three very famous acharyas of > parakalamatham came from this group. > > Elders may throw some light on this subject also just > as they are doing about Hebbars! > > > Gopalam Karamchedu ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/XUWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Oppiliappan-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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