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Dear Sri Vaishnavites,
 
The reason to being of Chakkrika has always been to propogate and make the treasures like Prabandhams, Kalakshepams, Vedams and our endevour will always be and will remain to offer these at offeredable prices, For example,  the entire Nalayira Divyaprabhandham of Sri M A Venkatakrishnan is now available for around 10 US$ in MP3 format.
 
We did not wish to take any vindictive action and had written personally to Sri Balaji and till today have not had a response.While we would consider holding  back legal proceedings, I am not sure if our commercial minded colleagues in the industry will have the heart to stop this. Please note that even now , the page that promotes these albums (hyper link to download has been removed for our releases alone)is still live on Saranagathi.com and  it distributes master pieces of other producers for free.  
 
We wish to reiterate that we are keen to help anybody in propogating these great works of our poorvacharyas in any form. But we would expect a least courtesy of asking us and getting our consent before going ahead.
 
I would like to thank Sri Sadagopan and others for the words of encouragement and we hope that the levels of morality will increase for the benefit of the world.
 
Thanking you.
 
Rajesh Mandyam
 
 
 
 
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1a.
Re: Small Dobut in Prabandham From: Madhavan
1b.
Re: Small Dobut in Prabandham From: Vishnu
1c.
Re: Small Dobut in Prabandham From: Madhavan
2.
Acharya vaibhavam - 71- What is Prapatti or Saranagati? what are the From: Madhavakkannan V
3a.
disturbing trend on Piracy From: Rajesh Mandayam
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disturbing trend on Piracy From: Rajesh Mandayam
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1a.

Re: Small Dobut in Prabandham

Posted by: "Madhavan" rammadhav@xxxxxxxxx   rammadhav

Mon Feb 5, 2007 3:27 am (PST)

SRI : ||

Dear Sri Chandra mouleeswaran,

Namaskaram,

Pl refer Verse 68 of RAMANUJA NOOTRANTHADHI - where there is a direct reference to Srimad Bhagavad Gita.

'Aarrenakku Nigar Sollil
Mayanandru Dhaiva
Therinil Seppiya Gitaiyin Semmai
Porul Theria
Parinil Sonna Ramanusanai
Paniyum Nallor
Therinil Sendru Panindhadhu
Ennaviyum Sindhaiyume"

There are very many other references both explicit & Implicit.

Adiyen Sri Ramanuja Dasan

Kombur Vankipuram Madhavan.


Vishnu <vsmvishnu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
Dear Sri Chandramouleeswaran ,

In addition to what Sri Padmanabhan wrote, I invite you to see our
following website for references:

http://www.geocitie s.com/yatirajada sa

In fact, I learned from learned Acharyas that AzhwArs themselves
were influenced by divya prabandham. Even going thru Ramanuja Gita
Bhashya from a bonafide Acharya will tell this.

adiyen ramanuja dasan
Vishnu

--- In Oppiliappan@ yahoogroups. com, "Chandramowleeswara n.V"
<vcmowleeswaran@ ...> wrote:
>
> Dear Vaishnavaite Scholars
>
> In the great work of Nalayira Divaya Prabandham there is no single
hymn mentioning the Bagavad Gita - If so please do let me know
>
> I am in a research on Prabandham
>
> Regards
> Chandramowleeswaran .V
>
>
>
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1b.

Re: Small Dobut in Prabandham

Posted by: "Vishnu" vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx   vsmvishnu

Mon Feb 5, 2007 3:28 am (PST)


Please read the first sentence in the para quoted below as:

In fact, I learned from learned Acharyas that AzhwArs themselves
were influenced by Bhagavad Gita.

dasan

Vishnu

--- In Oppiliappan@ yahoogroups. com, "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@. ..> wrote:
>
> >
> In fact, I learned from learned Acharyas that AzhwArs themselves
> were influenced by divya prabandham. Even going thru Ramanuja Gita
> Bhashya from a bonafide Acharya will tell this.
>
> adiyen ramanuja dasan
> Vishnu
>
> --- In Oppiliappan@ yahoogroups. com, "Chandramowleeswara n.V"
> vcmowleeswaran@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear Vaishnavaite Scholars
> >
> > In the great work of Nalayira Divaya Prabandham there is no single
> hymn mentioning the Bagavad Gita - If so please do let me know
> >
> > I am in a research on Prabandham
> >
> > Regards
> > Chandramowleeswaran .V
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
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>

1c.

Re: Small Dobut in Prabandham

Posted by: "Madhavan" rammadhav@xxxxxxxxx   rammadhav

Mon Feb 5, 2007 4:25 am (PST)

SRI : ||

Dear Sri Chandra mouleeswaran,

Namaskaram,

Pl refer Verse 68 of RAMANUJA NOOTRANTHADHI - where there is a direct reference to Srimad Bhagavad Gita.

'Aarrenakku Nigar Sollil
Mayanandru Dhaiva
Therinil Seppiya Gitaiyin Semmai
Porul Theria
Parinil Sonna Ramanusanai
Paniyum Nallor
Therinil Sendru Panindhadhu
Ennaviyum Sindhaiyume"

There are very many other references both explicit & Implicit.

Adiyen Sri Ramanuja Dasan

Kombur Vankipuram Madhavan.


Vishnu <vsmvishnu@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
Dear Sri Chandramouleeswaran ,

In addition to what Sri Padmanabhan wrote, I invite you to see our
following website for references:

http://www.geocitie s.com/yatirajada sa

In fact, I learned from learned Acharyas that AzhwArs themselves
were influenced by divya prabandham. Even going thru Ramanuja Gita
Bhashya from a bonafide Acharya will tell this.

adiyen ramanuja dasan
Vishnu

--- In Oppiliappan@ yahoogroups. com, "Chandramowleeswara n.V"
<vcmowleeswaran@ ...> wrote:
>
> Dear Vaishnavaite Scholars
>
> In the great work of Nalayira Divaya Prabandham there is no single
hymn mentioning the Bagavad Gita - If so please do let me know
>
> I am in a research on Prabandham
>
> Regards
> Chandramowleeswaran .V
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security. yahoo.com
>

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2.

Acharya vaibhavam - 71- What is Prapatti or Saranagati? what are the

Posted by: "Madhavakkannan V" srivaishnavan@xxxxxxxxx   srivaishnavan

Mon Feb 5, 2007 3:36 am (PST)

SrI:
SrImathE Gopaladesika Mahadesikaya nama:

Dearest all,

Let us enjoy and understand the glories of Prapatti
[Saranagati] here and the saasthric and vedic
references to the same.

References:
Sri SMS Chari book on Vaishnavism
Sri Anand Karalapakkam article on bhakti and Prapatti
Dr Sri VN Vedanta Desikan's compilation of
Commentaries on Swamy Desikan's nyAsa thrayee.
Sri V Satakopan Swami's article.

sAstrAs declare that Bhakti yogam and prapatti are the
only two means (sAdhya upAyAs) by which the baddha
jIvAtmAs can attain moksham, while the Divya Dampathi
are the Siddha upAyam. SaasthrAs are equal to thousand
mothers. They always prescribe do's and don'ts for us
for our betterment.

Sriman NArAyaNA Himself categorically declares:

bhaktyA paramayA vA-pi prapattyA vA mahAmathe
prApyoham na anyathA prApyO mama kainkarya lipsubhih:
[Ahirbudnya SamhithA]

NArAyaNA here clarifies that bhakti yogam and prapatti
are the only means & by no other means will He grant
moksham. So, all other processes like Bhagavad kalyAna
guna Sravanam, nAma sankeertanam, living at a Divya
desam, bathing in pushkarinIs & sacred rivers etc
should culminate in either "bhakti" or "prapatti" for
one to obtain moksham. So, it is not that a highly
devoted person would be deprived of moksham by Sriman
nArAyaNA. Such a devotee would be guided by Sriman
nArAyaNA to end up with either
"bhakti yogam" or "prapatti" and thus its just a
matter of time may be within that life time or in the
next few births, that he/she would obtain moksham.

Thus, PerumAL will not grant moksham for someone who
hasn't completed either bhakti yogam Or Prapatti,
since they are not fit enough to obtain moksham. His
wish as to who is fit enough for moksham has already
been indicated in the sAstrAs and asserted by His own
divine words. This also doesn't contradict His
nirAnkusa svAtantrayam (unfettered independence) ,
because it is His own wish. It is to be noted that, no
one can question such a wish of His to grant moksham
to only those who complete either bhakti Or prapatti,
since He is NirAnkusa swatantra. He is independent and
the master of everyone.

It is He who grants mOksha not the performance of a
ritual. It is He who prescribes that a mere simple
performance of Prapatti would please Him and He would
then grant the jeevathma mOksha. It is not the act
that assures us of moksha; It is the Lord?s pleasure
that arises out of our act [which is mandated by Him
in saasthrAs and is performed at His saanishi by our
most merciful acharya on our behalf] that yields us
the fruit of eternal kaimkarya Anandham and enjoyment
of His abode in the same level as He and Nithyasuris
enjoy.

There is no fancy of ours with regard to the nature of
Prapatti. The modus operandi of Prapatti is well
defined in sAstrAs. Anything that violates these
conditions will not be taken as Prapatti by SrIman
nArAyaNa. Otherwise, the sAstrAs will become
meaningless. Also, sAstrAs are not "our fancy" and it
is applicable universally to everyone. In fact, vEdAs
are not sectarian as everyone is wrongly thinking of.

A great AchAryA , who was called by the Lord as His
own mother , NadAthur AmmAL in his most scholarly work
has established the Sruthi/smruthi pramANam for
Prapatthi elegantly . In his seventh verse, he points
out that the section starting with "VasuraNya"

in Taittiriya Upanishad deals with the ways to observe
NyAsam or Prapatthi . Professor Prasad can elaborate
on this manthram .

AmmAL says :

prapatthis TaittireeyANAm vEdhE taavath vidheeyathE I
nyAsAkyA saprayOgAsou (hi) VasuraNyEthi manthratha: II

Dr.S.M.S. Chari has eloquently defended the ancient
nature and the antiquity of the Prapatthi doctrine as
a separate yOgA sanctioned by the vEdhAs ( p.262,
VishNavism : Its Philosophy, Theology and Religious
Discipline ) . He quotes the appropriate texts from Rg
Vedam, Taittireeya Upanishad and SvEthasvathAra
Upanishads.

He says: The term prapatthi is derived from the
root-words ,pra-pad; pad means to move and pra implies
in the best manner.

In the context of an Upaaya or means , the term
implies self-surrender to the Lord as the sole refuge
... There are numerous statements in the Rg VedA
referring to the basic principle of SaraNAgathi , viz
., the individual pleading his inability to achieve a
desired object seeks with a fervent prayer the help of
a divine power . The famous Rk addressed to Agni ,
which is reiterated in IsavasyOpanishad states:

O Agni , lead us along the auspicious path to
prosperity , O God , who knows the means of attainment
, remove all the obstacles coming in our way ; we
shall offer unto Thee salutations with the _expression_
of Namah : "

According to Swami Desikan , Agni in this Rk (AgnE
naya supathArAyE ---) refers to the Supreme Being
resident as the antharAthmA in Agni and the Nama:
signifies the act of self-surrender to the Lord .

The Rg Vedha manthram ( VIII.19.5 ) states , a person
who offers prayer witht he _expression_ of nama: (
implying self-surrender ) is to be regarded as one ,
who has performed a good yaagam . Ahirbudhnya SamhithA
holds this intrepretation of self- surrender for this
manthram .

The two passages from SvEthasvathAra and
Taittireeya NaarAyaNa upanishads in support of
Prapatthi are :

" yO BrahmaNAm vidadhAthi purvam -- ( I as an aspirant
of Moksha seek refuge in the effulgent God , who
creates BrahmA first and who verily delivers to him
the VedhAs --)

" tsmaannyaasaeshAm tapasAm athirikthamaahuh --"
( Extolling NyAsa an denjoining that the Self is to be
surrendered to Brahman with the PraNava manthrA ) .

Katavalli Sruthi cited by VaishNavite AchAryAs refers
to Dhvaya manthram ennunciating the essence of
SaraNAgathi .

We do not even to go to PurANAs , SamhithAs
or PaancharAthrAs to establish the antiquity
of the prionciple of SaraNAgathi .

Few verses from sAstrAs regarding the nature of
Prapatti :

all the following are quoted in SwAmi dESikan's
utmost outstanding SrImad Rahasya Traya sAram)

1. Ahirbudhnya Samhita (37-18) :
" Anukoolyasya saNkalpaha prAtikoolyasya varjanam
rakshishyatIti viSvAsO gOptrutva varaNam tathA
aatma nikshEpa kArpaNyE ShadvidhA SaraNAgatihi "

This specifies the angi (prapatti) with its five
angAs. Thus, any general act can't be considered
as Prapatti.

2. Lakshmi Tantra (17-74):

nikshEpAparapargrAy O nyAsaha pancAnga samyutaha |
sanyAsaha tyAga ityuktaha SaraNAgatirityapi ||

nyAsa i.e. self-surrender / prapatti has five angAs
and is also called as sannyAsa, tyAga and SaraNAgati.
NyAsa vidya in Upanishads are explained in the
upabrahmanas like pAncarAtra.

3. Lakshmi Tantra (17-72) : "aprArthitO na gOpayEt"

No protection would be given, when it is not sought
i.e. a prayer is essential. If one seeks moksham, a
prayer regarding it towards SrIman nArAyaNa is
essential. This is called as the "goptruta varaNam",
an angA of prapatti. The very word "purushArtham"
means, "that which is prayered for/sought after by a
Purusha (person)"( purushanAl prArthikkap paduvadu).

4. Lakshmi Tantra (17-78):

" sarvaj~nOpi hi viSvESaha sadA kAruNikOpi san |
samsAratantravAhitv At rakshApEkshAm pratIkshatE || "

The Lord who controlls everything, though omniscient
and always compassionate, expects a prayer for
protection, since He has to look after the process of
samsAra.

note: The above pramAnams out rightly rejects the
theory that PerumAL on His own will grant moksham,
without any prayer from the side of a jIvAtma. In
other words, PerumAL doesn't grant moksham due to His
"nirhEtuka krupa" (Causeless mercy i.e. without any
pretext from the side of jIvAtma). If it is so, then
He is partial in picking up some jIvAtma arbitrarily
and would be considered also cruel, biased and partial
to others. Also, it is PerumAL who makes a mumukshu
perform such a prayer, due to that jIvAtma's
appropriate sukrudams.

But, the prayer alone is not the sAdhyOpAyam i.e.
Prapatti. Prayer is only an anga (accessory) called
"goptrutva varaNam".

5. Lakshmi Tantra (17-91,92) :

"apAyasamplavE sadyaha prAyaScittam samAcarEt
prAyaScitiriyam sAtra yat punaha SaraNam vrajEt
upAyAnAmupAyatvasvI kArEpyEtadEva hi ... "

If there is an offence, the atonement is that is to be
done is only the performance of prapatti again for the
specific reason, which is other than moksham). If
after performing prapatti for the sake of moksha, a
man should perform karma yOga and the like (jn~Ana
yOga, bhakti yOga), with the thought that these are
upAyAs i.e. means to moksha, it would also constitute
an offense.

In order that this offense might disappear, prapatti
alone should be performed again.

It is to be noted that, one who performs prapatti
should never resort to any other upAya i.e. Means of
attaining PerumAL.

6. Ahirbudhnya Samhita (37.36) :

"tEshAm tu tapasAm nyAsamatiriktam tapaha Srutam "

Of all the austerities (tapas) prescribed for the
attainment of moksham, the austerity called nyAsa
(prapatti) is the highest.

7. Lakshmi Tantra (17.62) :

satkarmaniratAhA SuddhAhA sAnkyayOgavidastath A |
nArhanti SaraNasthasya kalAm kOtitamImapi "

note :

satkarmaniratAhA : One who is in Karma yOga nishta.

sAn~khyavidaha : One who is in jn~Ana yOga nishta.
yOgavidaha : One who is a bhakti yOga nishta.

Those who with their thoughts fixed only on moksha,
are absorbed in the performance of karma yOga,
and those again, who follow jn~Ana yOga and bhakti
yOga, do not deserve to be placed on a par with even
one-ten millionth of the man who has performed
prapatti.

8. SrI Vishnutattvam (quoted by SwAmi dESIkan in
the CharamaslOkAdhikAra m of SrImad Rahasya traya
sAram) :

samtyajya vidhinA niyam ShadvidhAm SaraNAgatim |
aachAryAnuj~ nayA kuryAt SAstradrushtEna vartmanA ||

Giving up all object of desire and the karmAs by which
they can be secured, SaraNAgati with its five angAs
should be performed with the permission of the
aachArya, in accordance with the rules prescribed in
the sAstrAs and with renunciation of the fruits of all
actions .

So, the sanction of aachArya is extremly important.

Further, SwAmi dESIkan in SrImad Rahasyatraya
sAram, firmly establishes through sAstrAs and logic
that, atleast the following are _not Prapatti_ ( from
the above quoted verses also one can get a good
picture about Prapatti):

a. Knowledge of the relationship between the sEsha
(jIvAtmas) and sEshi (SrIman nArAyaNa) is not by
itself the Prapatti.

b. Mere knowledge that SrIman nArAyaNa is the
siddhOpAya, the one who mercifully grants moksham, is
not Prapatti.

c. Non-resistance to PerumAL's grace is not Prapatti
by itself.
d. Prapatti is not an attribute of an adhikAri.

e. Prapatti is not mere faith in the saving grace of
SrIman nArAyaNa.

f. Prayer for moksham is not prapatti by itself.

g. Refraining from one's own activity (to attain
moksham) is not prapatti by itself.

SrI Satakopar [Nammaazhwaar] , Sriman Nathamuni, Sri
YamunAchArya, Sri Ramanujacharya have all advocated
and have performed their Prapatti. It is the genius of
SwAmi dESikan in assimilating all the pramAnams
regarding Prapatti and systematizing this esoteric
doctrine with brilliant analysis and excellent logic.
It has to be kept in mind that, an interpretation
about Prapatti should not violate any of the saasthric
injunctions / pramAnams.

Also, it is to be noted that, the likes of Dasaratha
and PAndavAs who were extremely close with PerumAL
Himself, were not granted moksham by Him, because they
didn't fulfill His criterion of completing a
sAdhyOpAyam. PerumAL could have considered any one of
their thousands of acts as a pretext to grant moksham.
Nevertheless, He didn't!

From the existing pramAnams, SwAmi dESikan has firmly
established the nature of prapatti. Hence, based on
the saasthric injunctions and proofs/ pramAnams :

a. First of all, AchArya Sambandham is important.

b. Also, if one performs Prapatti on his own as
svanishta prapatti, he should be someone like
NammAzhwAr, Nathamuni, Alavandhar and Bhagavad
RAmAnuja, with great knowledge on sAtrAs (esp.
Prapatti sAstrA), apart from devotion etc.

c. ananya gatitvam [having no other refuge except Him]
is a pre-requisite for Prapatti and thus, one can't
worship anya dEvatAs (i.e. demi-gods like Brahma,
Sivan and others shouldn't be worshipped. When Siva
himself is not to be considered as he can not grant
moksham, why to talk of his sons?

If one chooses to worship them also, prapatti will not
be accepted by PerumAL in the first place. Since this
is the case for worshipping dEvatAs who are mentioned
in vEdAs, it is obvious that those who worship any
dEvata not mentioned in vEdAs as Supreme God, based on
one's own concept of God, won't be granted moksham by
SrIman nArAyaNa (since it is anya dEvata worship).

d. No further Endeavour for moksham has to be done
after prapatti, which is a one time act. One is not at
all a prapannan if one does such endeavours.

One is completely wrong if he/she thinks that they by
themselves performed prapatti (i.e. doership ego is
still there). One cannot say "I performed prapatti to
perumAL", since this defies kartrutva tyAgam.
Actually, it is by the mercy of the Divya Dampati that
one is made to perform prapatti. So, one with proper
understanding of prapatti will say either "Divya
Dampati by their mercy has made adiyEn to perform
SaraNAgathi and granted moksham" OR "AchAryA out of
his great compassion made an akinchanan like adiyEn
obtain moksham" etc. This is the essence of kartrutva
tyAgam.

The performance of prapatti is for the pleasure of
Divya Dampati. The fruit of prapatti is the eternal
kainkaryam to the Divya Dampati, which is done for
their pleasure. Though a mumukshu sincerely wishes to
be in accordance with his (jIvAtmA's) svaroopam by
performing the kainkaryam eternally to the Divya
Dampati at Sri VaikuNTham, its upto the Divya Dampati
to grant it out of their own pleasure and a mumukshu
while performing prapatti should not have ego in this
aspect also. This is the essence of mamatA tyAgam and
phala tyAgam. Of course, Sriman NArAyaNA's vratam
(vow) is to grant moksham to those who perform
prapatti unto Him and the Divya Dampati will be very
happy to grant moksham to such a mumukshu.

The most important thing to understand while
performing prapatti is that, "Prapatti" (SAdhyaupAyam)
as an act by itself is not the reason for one's
moksham. Rather, it is the mercy of Sriman NArAyaNA
(Siddha upAyam) which is responsible for one's
moksham. Prapatti is a SAdhya upAyA which needs to be
done by a baddha jIvAtmA. This becomes a vyAjA for
Sriman nArAyaNA, the Siddha upAyA, to grant moksham.
In front of Siddha upAyA, SAdhya upAyA is "nothing" &
can't even be compared. However, SAdhya upAyA needs
to be performed since that?s the way Sriman nArAyaNA
has ordered (in Sruti & Smruti) to have a vyAjA
(excuse) for Him and thereby grant moksham by being
impartial. Similarly, Bhakti YogA is also a
SAdhyaupAyam. Ofcourse, the performance of
sAdhyaupAyam is also due to Sriman NArAyaNA's mercy.
Since the mumukshu has proper karmA due to various
pious deeds and (most importantly) divine blessings of
bhAgavathA(s) and SadAchAryA(s) , Sriman NArAyaNA out
of His mercy makes him/her perform the sAdhya upAyam
prapatti and grants moksham using it as a vyAjA.

So, if someone asks the reason for ones moksham,
without any hesitation, it is the siddha upAyam Sriman
nArAyanA. The Divya Dampati is both the upAyA (means)
& the upEyA (end).

Will Acharyan accept us, immediately for this? - The
verse in Saathvatha samhithai that comes to adiyEn's
mind in the context is :

yadhrucchayA upasannAnAm dEsAnthara nivAsinAm
ishtOpadesa: karthavyO NAARAAYANA rathAthmanAm

Swamy Deikan refers to this verse in His Magnum opus ,
Srimath Rahasya Thraya Saaram (RTS) in the AchArya-
KruthyAdhikAram chapter .The meaning of this verse is:

"If those living in faraway places arrive at the
SadAchAryan' s blessed feet with a mind filled
with Sriman NaarayaNan (and AchArya Bhakthi) even by
accident, then the SadAchAryan should bless them with
their upadEsams for upliftment (SaraNAgathi) without
long term testing of their arhathai (suitability )" .

Reflecting always on the words of Swamy Desikan in
NigamanAdhikAram of RTS that He gave us as guideline,
adiyEn vows to spend the rest of my life in service to
adiyEn's AchAryan, BhaagavathAs and the Dhivya
Dampathis :

"--sEsha aayushi api SESHA-DAMPATHI
dayA dheekshAm udhIkshAmahE "

(Meaning): In the remaining time of adiyEn's life ,
adiyEn remains awaiting the Sankalpam of
the Sarva Seshi Dampathis ( and performing
Bhagavath-Bhaagavat ha Kaimkaryam ).

Thre is nothing more to be done .The rest of the days
are to be spent in the clear manner recommended to us
by Thirumazhisai AzhwAr, who ascended Parama
Padham from Sri KomaLavalli SamEtha Sri AarAvamudhan' s
Thirukkudanthai . In one of His Naanmukan
ThiruvanthAdhi, this blessed AzhwAr having His
brindhAvanam at Thirukkudanthai states :

" -vennAhatthunnai --theritthuzhuthi
vaasitthum kEttum vaNangiyum vazhipattum
poositthum pOkkinEn pOthu "

AdiyEn spent my time without wasting it by reading the
Sri Sookthis celebrating the anantha kalyANa guNams of
our Lord , listening to the reading
of those glories by others and by worshipping Him
always through AarAdhanam to Him ".

One of the most insightful paasuram of Swamy Desikan
at the end of the AchArya KruthyAdhikAram chapter
celebrates the greatness and compassion of the
SadAchAryan, who provide ujjevanam ( upliftment to life
at Sri Vaikuntam and nithya kaimkaryam there to the
Dhivya Dampathis by giving His hand to pull us out of
the deep darkness of samsAram that shrouds us in from
anAdhi kaalam ).

That paasuram is as follows :

" maruL aRRa Desikar vaan uhappAl intha vyammellAm
iruL aRRu Iraivan iNayadi pooNduya yeNNUthalAl
theruLaRRa senthozhirc chelavam peruhi siRanthavar
paal
aruLuRRa sinthayinAl AZHIYAA VILAKKU YERRINARE "

(MEANING): The most compassionate and ajn~yanam-
free AchAryAs desirous of ascending paramapadham ,
reflected upon the POTENTIAL soubhAgyam to the
chEthanams longing for freedom from their ajn~yanam so
that they can hold firmly the holy feet of their
supreme Lord as THE UpAyam for their ujjIvanam . With
their mind full of compassion for the suffering
jeevans , they lit the unquenchable sampradhAya lamp
(nanthA ViLakku) of kainkarya Sampath through their
upadEsams.

Now that adiyEn's AchAryAn's anukampA has permitted
the realization of the SvarUpa, Bhara and Phala
samarpaNams, adiyEn enjoys the state of Nirbharam
and nirbhayam.

Rest of my prayers are those given to us by
Swamy Desikan in His illustrious NyAsa dasakam:

"nithyam niraparAdhEshu kaimkaryEshu niyunkshva maam "
(Oh Lord VaradarAjA ! (please command me to be engaged
always in blemishless kaimkaryams to Your
BhagavathAs) .

Acharyan ThiruvaDigaLE SaraNam
Regards
Namo Narayana
dasan

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3a.

disturbing trend on Piracy

Posted by: "Rajesh Mandayam" chakkrika@xxxxxxxxx   chakkrika

Mon Feb 5, 2007 4:20 am (PST)

SrI:

Dear Sri Rajesh Mandayam :

I am very unhappy to learn about your legitimate distress .
We all have to fight disrespect to intellectual property .
We all have to protect legitimate business interests and
Kaimkaryams done to propagate our siddhAntham and respect
the magnificent efforts of great scholars .

I am sorry that the site I manage has been drawn into this
controversy inadvertently due to the unbridled enthusiasm of
the aasthika from Toronto . He could have summarized the content
and referred the devotees to purchase these treasures . Quotations or excerpts from originals are fine for educational purposes after getting permission from the owners but wholesale use without permission is unacceptable . I will remove the files from my site
and request all members to be sensitive to such issues and not
send anything propreitary . As for my writings , I have placed them
at the disposal of one and all to spread the messages of our
PoorvAchAryAs and our hoary sampradhAyam .

Thanks again for inviting my attention to this important matter
and providing an opportunity to record my clear views on this matter.

SrimathE RaamAnujAya Nama:

V.Sadagopan


Dear Sri Sadagopan,

I am sorry to find that this group which really sets great standards in terms of topics of discussion and philantrophy is seen to be promoting illegal activities like piracy and infrigment on copy rights. My distress is due to the activities of one who calls himself ' Marans dog' or Balaji Sunderarajan and is involved in propogating piracy on the Internet through the website Saranagathi. com.

We have been noticing that he has sent out mails asking people to use the website to download proprietary releases of many Music companies and also the philotrophical excercises of companies like ours and also that of Sri Krishna Premi.

In the last couple of days Four companies namely HMV (Saregama), Ramji , Vani & Chakkrika have decided to launch legal proceedings against this gentelmen and more specifically we are in touch with our attorneys in Toronto who would be serving notices to the concerned people shortly.

I would request to all the people who are reading this mail to kindly understand that the release of great works like the one which are being distributed for free would cause great harm to the people who are realising these master pieces.

Chakkrika which is owned by my father, contributes significantly to philantrophy from its small earning. Similarly, late Sri M.S Sublakshmi did and still her successors do not take a single pie from the earnings on her releases and all of her royalties till this date goes to Philantrophic causes. Such acts by inidividuals shows the decreasing standards of morallity that is engulfing the world.

Rajesh Mandyam

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3b.

disturbing trend on Piracy

Posted by: "Rajesh Mandayam" chakkrika@xxxxxxxxx   chakkrika

Mon Feb 5, 2007 4:25 am (PST)

Dear Sri Sadagopan,

I am sorry to find that this group which really sets great standards in terms of topics of discussion and philantrophy is seen to be promoting illegal activities like piracy and infrigment on copy rights. My distress is due to the activities of one who calls himself ' Marans dog' or Balaji Sunderarajan and is involved in propogating piracy on the Internet through the website Saranagathi. com.

We have been noticing that he has sent out mails asking people to use the website to download proprietary releases of many Music companies and also the philotrophical excercises of companies like ours and also that of Sri Krishna Premi.

In the last couple of days Four companies namely HMV (Saregama), Ramji , Vani & Chakkrika have decided to launch legal proceedings against this gentelmen and more specifically we are in touch with our attorneys in Toronto who would be serving notices to the concerned people shortly.

I would request to all the people who are reading this mail to kindly understand that the release of great works like the one which are being distributed for free would cause great harm to the people who are realising these master pieces.

Chakkrika which is owned by my father, contributes significantly to philantrophy from its small earning. Similarly, late Sri M.S Sublakshmi did and still her successors do not take a single pie from the earnings on her releases and all of her royalties till this date goes to Philantrophic causes. Such acts by inidividuals shows the decreasing standards of morallity that is engulfing the world.

Rajesh Mandyam

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3c.

Re: disturbing trend on Piracy

Posted by: "Dr. Sadagopan" yennappan@xxxxxxxxxxxx   sadagopan10510

Mon Feb 5, 2007 6:19 am (PST)

SrI:

Dear Sriman Rajesh Mandayam :

Thanks very much for bringing this most important matter to my attention .
At the outset , I would like to state that the Intellectual property and
Commercial rights have to be respected at all costs . I had assumed that
the gentleman from Toronto had obtained the clearances .Obviouly not !
My apologies for not having looked deeper into this matter earlier .

Please be assured that I will be vigilant in terms of accepting any unapproved
inputs for file additions from the Members in future however enthusiastic they might be
in propagating our sampradhAyam . Lines have to be drawn and respected .
I will remove any files that may be residual . I have the highest regards for
what your Father and yourself are doing against heavy odds to record these
treasures thru great authorities in an authentic manner . I wish you continued
success with your Family's kaimkaryams .

NamO NaarAyaNAya ,
V.Sadagopan

----- Original Message -----
From: Rajesh Mandayam
To: oppiliappan@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:31 AM
Subject: [Oppiliappan] disturbing trend on Piracy

Dear Sri Sadagopan,

I am sorry to find that this group which really sets great standards in terms of topics of discussion and philantrophy is seen to be promoting illegal activities like piracy and infrigment on copy rights. My distress is due to the activities of one who calls himself ' Marans dog' or Balaji Sunderarajan and is involved in propogating piracy on the Internet through the website Saranagathi. com.

We have been noticing that he has sent out mails asking people to use the website to download proprietary releases of many Music companies and also the philotrophical excercises of companies like ours and also that of Sri Krishna Premi.

In the last couple of days Four companies namely HMV (Saregama), Ramji , Vani & Chakkrika have decided to launch legal proceedings against this gentelmen and more specifically we are in touch with our attorneys in Toronto who would be serving notices to the concerned people shortly.

I would request to all the people who are reading this mail to kindly understand that the release of great works like the one which are being distributed for free would cause great harm to the people who are realising these master pieces.

Chakkrika which is owned by my father, contributes significantly to philantrophy from its small earning. Similarly, late Sri M.S Sublakshmi did and still her successors do not take a single pie from the earnings on her releases and all of her royalties till this date goes to Philantrophic causes. Such acts by inidividuals shows the decreasing standards of morallity that is engulfing the world.

Rajesh Mandyam

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3d.

Re: disturbing trend on Piracy

Posted by: "Vishnu" vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx   vsmvishnu

Mon Feb 5, 2007 7:33 am (PST)

Dear Sriman Rajesh,

I myself am a fan and regular customer of chakkrika. Also I dont
know Sriman Balaji Sundararajan.

But still, my humble and sincere request to you is to refrain from
any legal proceedings against him. Many people are not ill-
intentioned but take things lightly. It seems Sriman Sundararajan is
in that category. So please tell him (I assume you have not done it
before) NOT TO broadcast chakkrika products any more from his
website. You can think of legal proceedings etc. only if other means
fail.

adiyen ramanuja dasan
Vishnu

--- In Oppiliappan@ yahoogroups. com, Rajesh Mandayam <chakkrika@. ..>
wrote:
>
> Dear Sri Sadagopan,
>
> I am sorry to find that this group which really sets great
standards in terms of topics of discussion and philantrophy is seen
to be promoting illegal activities like piracy and infrigment on
copy rights. My distress is due to the activities of one who calls
himself ' Marans dog' or Balaji Sunderarajan and is involved in
propogating piracy on the Internet through the website
Saranagathi. com.
>
> We have been noticing that he has sent out mails asking people to
use the website to download proprietary releases of many Music
companies and also the philotrophical excercises of companies like
ours and also that of Sri Krishna Premi.
>
> In the last couple of days Four companies namely HMV (Saregama),
Ramji , Vani & Chakkrika have decided to launch legal proceedings
against this gentelmen and more specifically we are in touch with
our attorneys in Toronto who would be serving notices to the
concerned people shortly.
>
> I would request to all the people who are reading this mail to
kindly understand that the release of great works like the one which
are being distributed for free would cause great harm to the people
who are realising these master pieces.
>
> Chakkrika which is owned by my father, contributes significantly
to philantrophy from its small earning. Similarly, late Sri M.S
Sublakshmi did and still her successors do not take a single pie
from the earnings on her releases and all of her royalties till this
date goes to Philantrophic causes. Such acts by inidividuals shows
the decreasing standards of morallity that is engulfing the world.
>
> Rajesh Mandyam
>
>
>
>
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