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Respectful Swamin,
Your statement rekindled adiyen's thoughts. When adiyen & a bhgavatha used to recite Prabhantha pAsurams, we come across reference to different leelas of the Lord in different incarnations within the same pAsurams, especially of Kaliyan, we used to enjoy the divine grace of the Azhvars. 
If one wants to enijoy Sri Rama's leelas, he has to read Sri Ramayanam, that too, at full length. Similarly, if he wants to enjoy Sri Krishna's leelas immediately, he has to forsake the Ramayana and take up Srimad Bhagavatham.
However, when we recite Prabantham, such needs will not arise as it contains all the leelas of all incarnations not only in that same work, but in the same Patthu, and also in the same single pasuram.
How blessed we are!
Regards,
Srinivasa Dasan 

"Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sri :
 
Dear Sriman Sowmianarayanan :
 
Thanks very much for your thoughtful note .
Your points are well made . Bhagavath Bhakthi
and Ishta DevathA UpAsanam are two big
themes for AzhwArs , AchAryAs and NaadhOpaasakAs
and  blessed poets .
 
The Chadal Pasasurams of Thirumangai
debate about the Vaibhavam of Raam and
KrishNa in the form of two ghOshtis of Gopis .
 
One KrishNa Bhakthar addresses Lord Raamachandra
and makes this request :
 
Oh SeethApathi! Please set aside Your bow named
KodhaNDam and the arrows and adorn the beautiful flute
in Your hand and decorate Your tresses  with the peacock
feather . I will prostrate before You thereafter ( PascchAth
ThvAm praNamAmi) .
 
An ardent Raama Bhathar started the Aarabhi Pancha Rathnam:
SaadhinchanE to praise KrishNa ; halfway thru , his KrishNa-
dhyAnam was disturbed and the krithi vAkyams shifted  to
his ishta Dhaivam , Sri Raama chandran . Elsewhere 
this Saintly Bard says : Tava DaasOham and RaamachadrAth
anyam na jaanE .
 
Ditto for SrI Nrusimha and Sri HayagrIva BhakthAs .
 
As the goal of Oppiliappan Group , all celebrations 
of Sriman NaarAyaNa is totally acceptable .
 
NamO SrIman NaarAyaNAya ,
V.Sadagopan   
 
----- Original Message -----
From: srinivasan sowmianarayanan
To: Oppiliappan@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Oppiliappan] A clarification sought

Respectful Bhagavathas,
It was very kind of Dr Srimathi Ramanujam to justify adiyen's response to the original query, but adiyen has apololgised for it.
As for distinction between Rama, Krishna etc., it occurs to adiyen's mind, that is a unque aspect of our sampradaya. In this prakriti life, living beings are all differ one from another even within one category like plant, animal and human forms. The Lord also appears in different forms so that everyone of His beings is attracted towards Him. In this way even Aasthikas can be brought. We also see difference in the time frame like morning, day evening & night, winter, summer etc. These are all to be transcended to get absorbed into the Lord Who is one and one alone. His Divyaathma is one only, but with countless Divya mangala vigrahas.
One Acharya indicated, for quick progress we have to confine ourselves to One Acharya, One Deva, One Murthi and One Nama. It is to keep our mind in total concentration so that there is no chalanam. Sri Krishna agrees, our mind is sanchalah. Only through constant practice it can be controlled. To start with one has to choose one murthy of the Lord with all His leelas in that form according to the initial nature of our mental position.
Kindly excuse me if anything wrong adiyen said. After all adiyen is ignorant basically.
With regards,
Srinivasan 
Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18@yahoo.com> wrote:
I agree fully with Dr.Sadagopan that this site should be exclusively devoted to bakthi. Of course Sri Sowmya narayanan only answered the question about astrology since it is natural to give areplywhen you know the facts . But as Mr.ravi Narayanan says this sir te is not restricted to the subject of Oppipliappan or Rama alone. I do not think that as a devotee one should distinguish between one form of the Lord and another as all are His manifestations only. In fact Dr.Sadgopan has very knindly asked me to write on yadhavabhyuadhaya , krishna karnamrtha and Ramyana etc.in this site and I have been doing so.When we know that God is one, why to distinguish between even Rama and krishna etc.?
saroja ramanujam


 
      
               Dr.  Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.
  Please visit www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam
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