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Dear Swamin,
This is a great episode. Let Lord's suffering
grow day after day!!! Unworthy souls like adiyen stand
a chance to make it. Thank you for narrating this
story.
-Srinivasadasa
--- vtca <vtca@xxxx> wrote:
> Sri:
> Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:
> 
> One time Bhattar was giving a discourse during which
> he
> mentioned that Lord Sriman Narayana does suffer in
> the 
> matters of his devotees.
> 
> After the discourse was over, two scholars who were
> in
> the audience were walking in the streets of
> Srirangam
> talking about the upanyasam.
> 
> They were saying "Bhattar said today in his
> upanyasam 
> that the Lord has suffering. Yet the Upanishads say 
> that He is 'Anandamaya:' - that is, He knows nothing
> 
> but joy. Bhattar is a great scholar and no doubt has
> 
> full knowledge of all sastras. So, why would he say 
> that? Is what he said correct?".
> 
> One of Bhattar's disciples known as Panditha who had
> 
> been listening to Bhattar's upanyasams for many
> years 
> overheard this conversation. He was greatly saddened
> 
> by it and went and told Bhattar about it.
> 
> Bhattar asked him "O Panditha! You have listened to 
> me for many years. Why do you come and tell me this?
> 
> Could you not have clarified their doubts there 
> itself?"
> 
> Panditha replied "O Bhattar! I could have explained 
> to them what you said based on your discourses. 
> However, they were scholars and would not be 
> satisfied by explanations alone. They would expect 
> proof. As I could not remember any pramANas, I did 
> not say anything".
> 
> Bhattar then told him "When Dasaratha decided to 
> crown Sri Rama as the king of Ayodhya, he first 
> asked his courtiers about it. They unanimously said
> that they wanted to see it done right away. So much
> so, they asked Dasaratha to run away and get the 
> coronation done immediately.
> 
> Dasaratha told them that he was happy to see their 
> interest in Sri Rama's coronation, but why did they 
> ask him to run away. Was not his rule governed by 
> dharma, did he not treat his subjects well? 
> 
> The courtiers replied that while Dasaratha had ruled
> 
> properly, they were pushed to say what they had by 
> Sri Rama's divine and auspcious qualities. 
> 
> Dasaratha then asked them what noble qualities they
> had seen in Sri Rama. They went on to describe Sri
> Rama's many wonderful qualities at the end of which
> they mentioned one thing - if any subject of Ayodhya
> were to suffer for any reason, then Sri Rama would
> suffer even greater than that person."
> 
> Bhattar then asked "O Panditha! Why did you not ask
> the two scholars whether Sri Rama's suffering was an
> auspicious quality or if it was a lowly quality?" 
> 
> Bhattar then said "If they want proof from the 
> sastras and not just the itihasas, do not the 
> Vedantas say that He is alone and that He is not
> happy ('na rameti'). How can He, who is surrounded 
> by shrI, bhU and nILa devIs, by nityasUris and by 
> muktAtmas, be alone. And how is He unhappy.
> 
> We find in this world that if we get attached to
> someone through marriage or other reasons, then we
> suffer for them when they are hurting. If this is
> the case for a relationship that came in the middle,
> how could He, who is related to all the jIvas since
> time immemorial and who is the father of all these
> souls, not be worried when they are suffering in
> this world? He feels lonely because not all of His 
> children are with Him in His abode and enjoying
> Him and He is unhappy for them."
> 
> Azhvar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam
> 
> A Day in the Life of Our Acharyas:
> http://www.acharya.org/articles/aditlooa/index.html
> 
> 
> 


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