Dear Sri Vishnu, Adiyen totally agrees with you that azhvar arulicheyals are our prime sastra and it is not enough that we just recite them but we should try to understand them and put into practice. As Andal said, "vittuchittar kEttu eruppar"-it is not just listening but listening and living accordingly. Let us thereby stop this discussion with this and continue to enjoy the divine anubhavams in the words of azhvars and acharyas. Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam Adiyen ramanuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan ----- Original Message ----- From: Vishnu To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:12 PM Subject: [ramanuja] Re: Digest Number 731 - Sandhya/Gayathri related --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Sumithra Varadarajan" <sumivaradan@xxxx> wrote: > That is why atleast by words adiyen insisted the necessity of >following our acharya's anushtanams (practically adiyen follows zero >and hence has/is doing the maximum apacharams possible but atleast >feels for adiyen's incapability and each moment begs the pardon from >bhagavan and our acharyas for the same). Only when we get the >ultimate qualification of "sarva dharmAn parithyajya" we can leave >everything (here remember we should leave everything not do one >thing which we like to do and leave that which is difficult or >boring to do). But even if we leave now it is not going to affect >us in anyway since we have the strength of our acharyas who will >take us straight to the divine feet of emperuman ("jnAna >anushtAnamivai nandrAgavE udaiyanAna guruvai adaindhakkAl thEnAr >kamala thirumAmagal kozhunan thAnE vaikundam tarum"). As a >Srivaishnavite it is enough if we just get immersed in the >arulicheyals of azhvars and acharyas and spend our time (kalashepam) >with bhagavat/bhagavata kainkaryam. In that case, we should refrain >ourselves from doing rituals like ayushhomam, marriage >homams, .gruhapravesa homams etc also (if you are willing to do such >homams then we have to satisfy the basic qualification for the same. >Sastras say that one who has left sandhi is not eligible for any of >these rituals. so we either leave all these or do them with the >necessary qualification else it doesn't serve the purpose atall and >it is sheer waste of time). Dear Smt Sumitra, I agree with you mostly. However, as we know, many people are not doing sandhyAvandanam as a prequalification for marriage hOmams, gruhapravESa hOmams, while SAstras may be saying that. Let us not affect their confidence. People who are not doing anything but just have faith in Him are more eligible for doing anything than anybody else. We should not think that we become eligible by our own deeds which goes against our swarUpa. It is for Him to put us in any kainkaryam. By contemplating on PerumAL, we are satisfying all that is contained in all SAstras. When two SAstras say different things, the teachings of the primary SAstra (divya prabandham) have to govern, in my understanding. So if we consider the prabandha to be an independent scriptural authority, the question of either doing or not doing does not come and primary anushtAna (contemplating on His qualities) takes priority. The very first mantra of sandhyA says: apavitra: pavitrO vA sarvAvasthAn gatOpi vA ya: smarEt puNdarIkAksham sa bAhyAbhyAntara: Suchi: So one acquires Suchi (purity) as one thinks of Him. That is what it conveys. One need not ritualsitically think that one acquires purity only by following so and so procedure. Ayush-hOmam is not there in many SV families of either subsect. What for it is done? It is OK if not done for increasing the Ayush. It is for Him to keep us here. >How many of us arrange for recitation of 4000 paasurams Here again arranging for 4000 recitation is not imp. I know it to be another ritual. Trying to put the teachings of AlwArs into day-to-day life (or mere having faith in an AchArya who has that gnAna anushtAna as you said) is enough. > It is no harm in us spending 15 to 30 mts in a day for doing >sandhi as a kainkaryam to emperuman and then spending our day with >bhagavat/bhagavata kainkaryams. Nothing is for our pleasure >everything is only for his happiness ("padiyAi kidandhu vun >pavalavAi kAnbEnE") I am certainly not against that. In my first mail, I just wondered whether the concept of not doing ashtAksharI japam (with which most of us agree) can be extended to gAyatrI japam which forms part of sandhyA. Kindly forgive me for my mistakes. Your humble servant Vishnu azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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