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sri:

Dear Devotees: Please accept adiyEN's humble pranams.

Sri Vikram, these days normally, adiyen stays away from discussions as
there is so much to learn and experience by HIS grace, your mail 
got me going on my thought process.

You Wrote:
:> Lipner, also upholds the view that sudras will have to wait 
:> additional lifetimes to get moksham. Vedic knowledge is an ABSOLUTE 

THIS IS NOT TRUE, As PER SRI RAMANUJA and his works, please read 
Sri Saranagathy Gadya by Sri Ramanuja (with exaplnations)

ALL LIVING BEINGS (NOT JUST HUMANS) are allowed moksha regardless their 
caste, creed or specie.

:> Also, prapatti was a concept developed fully by later Vaishnavas--not 
:> Acarya Ramanuja himself. His Gita exegesis states nowhere that sudras 
:> can get moksham in this lifetime. The way out of it is (perhaps) to 

No No You got that wrong, 
Yes Acharya Ramanuja had the concept of Saranagahty foully documented
and showed us how to, by HIS grace and sambhandam(relationship) only
we are all able to go to moksha today.

You are confusing, Bharanyasam as a seperate procedure, (apart from 
surrender, Samashreyanam)
has not been detailed by ramanuja or practiced by his immediate disciples

(This is not the same as surrender), Surrender (saranagathy)
(is open to all beings, at any time that the being is ready, through a
qualified acharyan)

Sri Bhashya was written for the VEDIC educated elite, (are any of us in
that category today to understand this fully as intended)

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All the above is my personal opinion only, learned scholars may want to
add their points and correct adiyen where appropriate,

adiyEN Ramanuja Dasan
Mukundan V. Pattangi

www.radioramanuja.com




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