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----- Original Message ----- 
From: nsp 
To: oppiliappan ; vanamamalai 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:09 AM
Subject: Fw: [ramanuja] Forgiveness



----- Original Message ----- 
From: nsp 
To: ramanuja 
Cc: oppiliappan ; vanamamalai 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ramanuja] Forgiveness


Dear Shri Madhusudhan, I do no know whether i am giving the appropriate reply 
but your question immediately reminded me of swAmi piLLai lOkAchAryA's srE 
vachaNa bhUshaNa sUthram 365 which runs as folows

"kuRRam seidhavargaL pakkal poRaiyum, kripayum, sirippum, vugappum, upakAra 
smrithiyum nadakka vEaNum"

The reactions expected of a srEvaishNavite towards persons committing mistakes 
on them, is listed in this sUthram

1. poRai--> poRumai--> patience. To think of even taking revengeful anction 
should be avoided.
2. kripai-->Compaission--> Even if we are patient, as mentioned above, the Lord 
Almighy may punish them.Hence, we should be compassionate towards him.
3. sirippum--> Smile and laugh--> The troubles created by these people will not 
harm our mission towards Him. It may harm some material aspects of this world. 
But unlike them,srEvaishNavites will not worry over these worldly aspects. 
Hence, they will be disappointed in fact in expecting to disappoint us, in this 
regard, resulting in a smile.
4. vugappum---> Affectionate towards them--> The troubles created by them may 
be towards a. our body or b. towards our worldly comforts. Both are to be 
shunned by us are these are hurdles towards the path to the Lord's service. 
Since, these troubles only help in furthering our missions, we should be 
affectionate towards them.
5. upakAra smrithiyam--. gratitude towards them---> The troubles created by 
them may actually remind us of defects in us, which will enable us to rectify 
the same. hence we should be grateful towards them.

These are the ideal reaction expected of srEvaishNavites.
Thank you and regards
rAmAnuja dhAsan
vAnamAmalai padmanabhan




----- Original Message ----- 
From: k_madhusudhan22 
To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:44 AM
Subject: [ramanuja] Forgiveness


Dear all,

I apologize if this question is out of context.

With my limited knowledge and reading I understand that "Forgiveness 
is Dharma"; but to follow this in practice is extremley difficult.

So I would be grateful if the group could let me know of guidelines 
that are prescribed in the Sastras regarding this divine act. I 
would be grateful if you could offer examples from epics, for easier 
comprehension.

Must be forgive everyone who asks for forgiveness, or are there acts 
that are just unpardonable? What if people don't repent their 
mistakes, Must we still forgive them?

Please elucidate,

Adiyen,
Madhusudhan




azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam



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