Dear Ms Nappinnai, Thank you for informing me about swAmI's upanyAsam. We all should listen, read with motivation to learn and not to earn puNya. I disagree with you on one point. If we understand our pAratantryam, we attribute it to His grace. If we still dont understand even after listening to the learned, that is due to His mAyA (wonderful will, not illusion)! We have a will that is different from His. That continues even after we think we have performed all those things prescribed. This does not mean our will is free. Our will, which is different from His (may be not so for nityas and muktas), is under His full control. dAsAnudAsan Vishnu vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear All, Whoever has doubts regarding swatantryam,listen to Swami Velukkudi Krishnan's upanyAsam on tirumantram(Class 7)in radioramanuuja.com. Hope people will get cleared. If not that's also His grace! For those who can't listen, Swami Krishnan says "when the jIvAtmA thinks it is swatantran, it loses its swarUpam/adimaithanam. It only brings destruction to the jIvAtmA". AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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