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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Vishnu,

           I am borrowing Sri Sridhar's statement: pAratantryam is 
quintessential sEshatvam.
           I am under the impression(!)that this is what lakshmaNa 
displayed.He was like fish out of water without Srirama. SEshatvam
(service to the Lord) is the essential attribute of the individual 
soul compared to teh other attribute "gnAtrtvam" because sEshatvam 
differentiates the jIvA from the Lord while the other differentiates 
the jIvA from the non-sentient/matter. PeriyAzhvAr's "thirumAlE 
nAnum unakku pazhavadiyen". In strict terms, no servant has any form 
of independence!!!
           I don't understand how you made the statement that 
bharata for pArantantryam. If I 'm wrong I want to be corrected by 
the devotees. It is bharata who displayed swagata swIkAram,trying to 
get hold of the Lord(effort on the individual part)and that's why 
Srirama didn't oblige bharata's wish. In the case of lakshmaNa,even 
while rendering service, he would not excercise his own volition but 
only seek the orders of Srirama and the Lord couldn't resist but 
only yield to devotion of such high order. Since it is only 
sEshatvam which sustains the individual soul and makes it thrive, 
lakshmaNa couldn't stay apart from the Lord and could thrive only by 
serving the Lord in all possible ways. Bharata and satrughna 
rendered only particular service while lakshmaNa everything to the 
Lord. In short, lakshmaNa displayed that he has no independent 
existence without that Srirama. Well, don't blame me if my english 
language didn't exactly convey what I wanted to say. Please correct 
me if I'm wrong.

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
dAsAnu dAsI
NC Nappinnai


> I understand that lakshmaNa is primarily an example for SEshatvam 
and 
> Bharata for pArartantryam.


> 
> However, SEshatvam does not mean doing service. What u wrote for 
> pAratantryam "Exists merely for the pleasure of the 
> Lord" is apt for SEshatvam, as defined in "nivAsa SayyAsana..." 
> SlOkam of yAmuna muni.
> 
> If SEshatvam means doing service, perumAL cannot be aSEsha 
chidachit 
> vastu SEshi bhUta... SEshI for all sentient and non-sentient 
things.
> 
> lakshmaNa's pleading with the Lord can be understood 
> from "nirAsakasyApi na tAvadutsahE mahESa! hAtum tava pAda 
> pankajam..." perspective of yAmuna muni. In case of Bharata, he is 
> duly compensated as he got His pAdukAs! 
> 
> dAsAnudAsan
> Vishnu





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