Dear all There has been some a good discussion on the concepts of seshaatvam and pararatantriyam dear to the heart of our acharyas. Some thoughts arose in my mind after reading Jayshree Saranathan's letter on the above topic. According to the commentaries by Periavachan Pillai , Sehatvam is what Lakshmana showed when obeying his brother Sri Rama. Paratantriyam is the quality that we see in Bharata's attitude to Sri Rama. Our achryas have admired more the quality of paratantriyam. Shatrugana's paratantryam to Bharatha is even considered superior Parantriyam means loss of swatantriyam or lack of independence. Does this mean our swatantriyam is lost. As chetanas, human beings are endowed with knowledge. I think that our knowldge should be used to discriminate what is good and what is bad.Our acharya's srisukthis help to know these. Laakshmana was doing all service to the Lord as desired by the Lord. Bharata was performing the duties as ordained by the Lord. I think the qualities of Seshatvam and Paratantriyam is is what is expected from Vaishnavas. There is also an analogy of father and son. I am not able to understand hoe this helps to understand these concepts. Similar cocepts are found when the jiva attains paramapada for divine service after his moksha. The concepts of Samipya,Sarupya and Sayujya come to the picture. Though the liberated souls attain the nearness of the Lord and also the divyadeham like the Lord, they do not have all the powers of the Lord. For ex., they do not have the power to create anything. Further clarifications on the topic from the the learned group is welcome. Adiyen Ramanujadasan Soundararajan Azhwar Emberumanar Jeeyar thiruvadigale saranam --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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