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Dear all
 
There has been some a good  discussion on the concepts of seshaatvam and 
pararatantriyam dear to the heart of our acharyas. Some thoughts arose in my 
mind after reading Jayshree Saranathan's letter on the above topic.
 
According to the commentaries by Periavachan Pillai , Sehatvam is what 
Lakshmana  showed  when obeying his brother Sri Rama. Paratantriyam is the 
quality that we see in Bharata's attitude to Sri Rama. Our achryas have admired 
more the quality of paratantriyam. Shatrugana's paratantryam to Bharatha is 
even considered superior
 
Parantriyam means loss of swatantriyam or lack of independence. Does this mean 
our swatantriyam is lost.
 
As chetanas, human beings are endowed with knowledge. I think that our knowldge 
should be used to discriminate what is good and what is bad.Our acharya's 
srisukthis help to know these.
 
Laakshmana was doing all service to the Lord  as desired by the Lord. Bharata 
was performing the duties as ordained by the Lord. I think the qualities of 
Seshatvam and Paratantriyam is is what is expected from Vaishnavas.
 
There is also an analogy of father and son. I am not able to understand hoe 
this helps to understand these concepts.
 
Similar cocepts are found when the jiva attains paramapada for divine service 
after his moksha. The concepts of Samipya,Sarupya and Sayujya come to the 
picture.
Though the liberated souls attain the nearness of the Lord and also the 
divyadeham like the Lord, they do not have all the powers of the Lord. For ex., 
they do not have the power to create anything.
Further clarifications on the topic from the the learned group is welcome.  
 
Adiyen Ramanujadasan
 
Soundararajan
 
 
 
Azhwar Emberumanar Jeeyar thiruvadigale saranam





                
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