SrI: Swami adiyen wrote whatever adiyen heard from adiyen's kalkshepa acharyan Sri Ghostipuram swami. AdiyEn,PadhukAdAsan,AravindalOchandAsAnudAsan. Venkat <ternandanan@xxxx> wrote:Dear Arvind Gopalan thanx for ur outstanding espousal of abberation caused to the spotless Sri Ramanuja vaibhavam. It is highly thoughtful and convincing argument . The reported incident was not known to Swami desika (He would have mentioned that in his Ethiraja Sapthathi , if that was true) It is a later day creation rightly told by u in anticipation of getting greater recognition. Thanks again and let this message be given wider circulation This argument of this writer has been told and Stressed by my Great SadAcharyan Garudapuram Thirumalai Echambadi Raghunandanachariar Swamin during Grantha Chathushtaya Kalakshepam Repeatedly Dasan Venkat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aravind Gopalan" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: [SriRangaSri] IT IS NOT TRUE. SrimathE RangaRamanuja Mahadesikaya Nama:SrimathE GOpAlArya Mahadesikaya Nama:SrimathE NigamAntha Mahadesikaya Nama:SrimathE BhagavathE BhashyakArAya Mahadesikaya Nama: SrI: It is NOT true that Bhashyakarar chanted the mantra loudly in GhOstipuram temple. Bhashyakarar's acharyan was not ready to reveal the mantrArtham(meaning of the mantram) to more than one sishya at a time. This is was actually the tradition which was strictly followed. But Bhashyakarar thought that if a guru was going to pass on the meaning of the mantra for only one sishya at a time then how will Visistaadvaitam spread fast? Swami Desikan had taught Sribhashyam some 40 times in His avathara kAlam. If he taught sribhashyam at the rate of one student at a time then we would be having only 40 acharyaas directly taught by NigamAntha Mahadesikan!! So Bhashyakarar out of 'dayai' announced loudly that he would tell the meaning of the mantram for group disciples at a time. More importantly he was ready to reveal the meaning of the rashya mantram only for those who had panchasamskaaram and that too not in public. The acharyan became angry with Bhashyakarar because of his "invitation" for disciples to come in group to hear the meaning. But when bhashyakarar explained him about his intention the acharyan also agreed. From that time till now upadesam is done for groups and the previous strict traditional rule was RELAXED. In Srimad Rahasya Traya Saram in the Guruparampara saram swami desikan stresses the importance of protecting/safegaurding the mantrOpadesam of an acharyan. Swami desikan belongs to the line of acharyaas coming from Bhashyakarar. In such a case it is funny to accept such 'stories'. Some of us try to encourage such stories thinking that it will add more to bhashyakarar's vaibavam, but it actually would yield a negative result. One should be very careful in sorting out 'stories' from biographies! AcharyaLum BhagavathaLum KatakshikkavEnum. AdiyEn, PAdhukAdAsan, AravindalOchanadAsAnudAsan. I understand that Sri Ramanuja does not use that specific term sankîrtana in his writing -- but that he refers to the idea of it in his in the Gita bhAshy and in the Nitya (his manual of household worship) and in his Theology. Can anybody please tell me of these references and/or if there are copies of the above mentioned works on line I have also hear: Sri Ramanuja got the secret mantra from his guru who told him not reveal it to anyone and as soon Sri Ramanuja departed after getting the mantra he started chanting it loudly for all to hear. Then his guru asked him why he had revealed the mantra to so many by chanting it out loud and Sri Ramanuja replied that if the mantra had all the wonderful power and blessings that he said it had that he wanted to share it with everyone and not just keep it to himself. Is the above true or is it a tale... If it is true where can I read more about this --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Srirangasri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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