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SrI: Swami adiyen wrote whatever adiyen heard from adiyen's kalkshepa acharyan 
Sri Ghostipuram swami. AdiyEn,PadhukAdAsan,AravindalOchandAsAnudAsan.

Venkat <ternandanan@xxxx> wrote:Dear Arvind Gopalan

thanx for ur outstanding espousal of abberation caused to the spotless Sri
Ramanuja vaibhavam. It is highly thoughtful and convincing argument . The
reported incident was not known to Swami desika (He would have mentioned
that in his Ethiraja Sapthathi , if that was true)

It is a later day creation rightly told by u in anticipation of getting
greater recognition.

Thanks again and let this message be given wider circulation

This argument of this writer has been told and Stressed by my Great
SadAcharyan Garudapuram Thirumalai Echambadi Raghunandanachariar Swamin
during Grantha Chathushtaya Kalakshepam Repeatedly


Dasan Venkat


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From: "Aravind Gopalan" 
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Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 12:43 AM
Subject: [SriRangaSri] IT IS NOT TRUE.


SrimathE RangaRamanuja Mahadesikaya Nama:SrimathE GOpAlArya Mahadesikaya
Nama:SrimathE NigamAntha Mahadesikaya Nama:SrimathE BhagavathE BhashyakArAya
Mahadesikaya Nama: SrI: It is NOT true that Bhashyakarar chanted the
mantra loudly in GhOstipuram temple. Bhashyakarar's acharyan was not ready
to reveal the mantrArtham(meaning of the mantram) to more than one sishya at
a time. This is was actually the tradition which was strictly followed. But
Bhashyakarar thought that if a guru was going to pass on the meaning of the
mantra for only one sishya at a time then how will Visistaadvaitam spread
fast? Swami Desikan had taught Sribhashyam some 40 times in His avathara
kAlam. If he taught sribhashyam at the rate of one student at a time then we
would be having only 40 acharyaas directly taught by NigamAntha
Mahadesikan!! So Bhashyakarar out of 'dayai' announced loudly that he would
tell the meaning of the mantram for group disciples at a time. More
importantly he was ready to reveal the meaning of the rashya mantram only
for those who had panchasamskaaram and that too not in public. The acharyan
became angry with Bhashyakarar because of his "invitation" for disciples to
come in group to hear the meaning. But when bhashyakarar explained him about
his intention the acharyan also agreed. From that time till now upadesam is
done for groups and the previous strict traditional rule was RELAXED. In
Srimad Rahasya Traya Saram in the Guruparampara saram swami desikan stresses
the importance of protecting/safegaurding the mantrOpadesam of an acharyan.
Swami desikan belongs to the line of acharyaas coming from Bhashyakarar. In
such a case it is funny to accept such 'stories'. Some of us try to
encourage such stories thinking that it will add more to bhashyakarar's
vaibavam, but it actually would yield a negative result. One should be very
careful in sorting out 'stories' from biographies! AcharyaLum BhagavathaLum
KatakshikkavEnum. AdiyEn, PAdhukAdAsan, AravindalOchanadAsAnudAsan.
I understand that Sri Ramanuja does not use that specific term
sankîrtana in his writing -- but that he refers to the idea of it in
his in the Gita bhAshy and in the Nitya (his manual of household
worship) and in his Theology. Can anybody please tell me of these
references and/or if there are copies of the above mentioned works on
line

I have also hear:

Sri Ramanuja got the secret mantra from his guru who told him not
reveal it to anyone and as soon Sri Ramanuja departed after getting
the mantra he started chanting it loudly for all to hear. Then his
guru asked him why he had revealed the mantra to so many by chanting
it out loud and Sri Ramanuja replied that if the mantra had all the
wonderful power and blessings that he said it had that he wanted to
share it with everyone and not just keep it to himself.

Is the above true or is it a tale... If it is true where can I read
more about this


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