Varadarajan swami, thanks for extolling Chakratazhvar. dasan/raghavan --- rtvrajan <rtvrajan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Sriman Narayanaya Namaha: > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha: > > > What an auspicious day to share my thoughts on this > wonderful > question about the equality of Sri BhagavAn and Sri > Sudarsana. Sri > Sudarsana is normally considered a part of > ShodasAutham ( sixteen > Ayuthams ) of the Lord. However Sri Sudarsana is the > most supreme > among them and is considered almost equal to the > Lord himself. Sri > Sudarsana's fame is extolled in Sadapada BrAhmanam > of Sukla yajur > vedam. Numerous references to Sri Sudarsana are > found also in Yajur > and Atharva vedas. For scientific minds, we can say > that Sri > Sudarsana is the all-pervasive star power of the > universe. > > Sri Desika would say in Sri SudarshanAshtakam verse > 2: > > Subha Jagathrupa MandanA Sadamaga Brahma VandithA > Prathitha Vidvath SabashithA Jaya Jaya Sri SudarsanA > Sura ghana DrAsa KandanA **Sadapada BrAhma > NandithA** > Bajatha ahirputhniya LakshithA Jaya Jaya Sri > Sudarsanae > > Sri Desika would also mention in verse 7 `sakala > tathvath > pradishtitha' meaning that He is the antharyami of > all thatvams, sat > and chith included. In verse 8 Sri Desika refers to > Sri Sudarsana > as `Bhuvana Nethra ThrayEmaya', indicating that He > is the Three-Veda > swarupE. We normally refer to the Lord himself as > the Veda swarupE. > Thus the equality of Sri Sudarsana and the Lord > Narayana is evident. > > Sri Sudarsana is praised as Surya NarayanA and the > Lord as Adhi > NarayanA in ThripAd vibhudhi Maha Narayanopanishad > 1.5: > > Anthargatha: Sudarsana Purosho YadhA Surya > MandalAnthargatha: Surya > Narayano (a) mitha AparichchiNAthvaitha ParamAnantha > Lakshana > ThejorAchyanthargatha AdiNarayanasdhatha > Sandrusyathe. > > Sri Krishna and Sri Sudarsana are equated in another > manthram > uttered in the same breath in this upanishad: > > Om Namo Bhagavathe Rukmini VallabAya SwAhA Om Namo > Bhagavathe Maha > SudarsanAya Hoom Phat. > > The moola mantharams in Sudarsana homam praise the > same equality and > they are all in the Vedas. > > Much of Sri Mahabharatham is about extolling the > virtues of Sri > Sudarsana as the mindboggling instrument and > representative of the > Lord. > > We all do Santhyavandanam as obeisance to Gayathri, > Sudarsana (Surya > Narayana ) and the Antharyami, Sriman Narayana, > residing in the > Surya Mandalam. > > We perform the Surya Narayana Vandanam as follows: > > Smarthas recite the following in Sandhyavandanam: > > Nama: Savithre Jagatheka Sakshushe Jagathprasuthi > sthithinasa > HethavE| thrayEmayAyathriguNathma Dharine Virinchi > Narayana > SankarAthmane: > > Smarthas and Vaishnavas recite this manthram in > SandhyAvandanam: > > Dhyeya: SathA Savithrumandala MadhyavarthE Narayana: > SarasijAsana > Sannivishtaha: Keyuravan Makara kundalavAn Kireeti > Haree Hiranmaya > Vabhur dhrutha Sankachakra: Sanka chakra Gatha Pane > Dwaraka > NilayAchchutha Govindha PundarEkAksha rakshaMam > SaranAgatham. > > We are in fact praying to Sri Sudarsana and the Lord > himself. > > > Let us pray that Sri Sudarsana protect us all. Let > the supreme Lord > do the same. > > Adiyen > Ramanuja dasan > U. Ve. R. T. Varadarajan Ph.D. > > > --- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jayaraman.S" > <jai_2_u@xxxx> > wrote: > > Namaskaram, > > > > Thanks to Thiru.Anbil Ramaswamy swamin, > Thiru.Vijaya > > Raghavan swamin, Thiru.jayasarathi swami, > > Thiru.T.R.Govindarajan Swamin for explaining about > > performing homas for Anya devathas. (Reference to: > > Email Subject: Doubts related to KankaabishEkam) > > > > Adyien understood the significance of workshiping > the > > lord Vishnu and not anyother anya devathas through > > homa, etc.,. This discussion raises another > question > > about performing sudharsana homam. > > > > Thiruppaavai ("Pallandu Pallandu") > > > > "vadivaar sOthi valath-thuRaiyum, sudar-aazhiyum > > pallaaNdu / > > padaipOr-pukku-muzhangum, appaancha-sanniyamum > > pallaaNdE //" > > > > We do not workship paanchajanyaa(Sanga/conch) or > > aazhi(chakrathazhwar/disc) separetly from lord > > narayana. paanchajanyaa and Sudharshana azhwar are > > part of permal lord narayana. The Sudharsana > Chakra or > > the divine disc of Maha Vishnu is one of the Lords > > prominent weapons in annihilating evil forces. > > According to legend, poygaiaazhvaar was an amsam > of > > changu and Thirumazhisai aazhvaar was an amsam of > > aazhi (chakkaram). > > > > "yeththavam seidhArkkum arul mudivadhu AzhiyAn > pAl": > > The result of any great tapas is granted only by > the > > bhagavan who holds the divine sudharsana chakra in > his > > hand. For those tapas, which are done towards > brahma > > or rudran the bhagavan who stays as antharyAmi > inside > > these devas grant the boon. > > > > "yO yO yAm yAm thanum bhakthi": > > (Those who want to worship the devas who are part > of > > me with due respect, are granted that regard for > the > > devas by me. That jeeva thereby with due respects > > worships the god of his like. And due to the > worship > > he attains the result I grant him) says bhagavan > in > > his bhagavat geetha. > > > > The results of any worship is ultimately granted > only > > by the ultimate lord nArAyaNan. > > > > Thus Can we say lord nArAyaNan grants boom when we > > workship sudharsana or do sudharsana homam. > > (OR) Is sudharsana and lord narayana is one and > the > > same? Is there any references available for this. > > > > Dasan, > > Jayaraman > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! 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