Dear Sri Devarajan : I have copied a sishya of Dr.SMS Chari at Bangalore . He is Dr.Srikanth and he can pass on your query to Dr SMS Chari and get you the clarifications . This would be the best route to acquire the contextual information . Thanks very much Dr.Srikanth to discuss this request to Dr.SMS Chari and kindly extend my PraNAmams to him . V.Sadagopan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jagadish Devarajan" <mailjags@xxxxxxxxx> To: <SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] UPALAKSANA > Thank you Shri.V.Sadagopan and Shri Hari Krishnan. > > Let me first mention the context where I encountered the word > upalakshanam. It was in Shri S.M Srinivasa Chari's book > Vishistadvaita & Advaita which, as I understand, deals with > Shri Vedanta Desikan's assertion of Vishistadvaita in his > work Satadusani. My knowledge of Indian or western philosophical > traditions is meagre if not nothing. > > As I write the following I dont have the book in front of me. > Please bear with any false representation due to my poor > understanding or memory. > > When the author writes about the effect of rope-snake on the > observer he mentions upalakshanam. My understanding at this > point is that rope appearing as a snake is upalakshanam and > its effect - fear - is upalakshya. Upalakshanam and its effect > upalakshya cannot be syntactically linked. He translates > upalakshanam as 'qualification per accidens' and contrasts it > with viseshna( 'qualification per proprium'). At this point I > realised the import of the word upalakshanam and my lack of > full grasp of the word. > > I also came across sources that translated upalakshanam as > metonymy or synechdoche. This doesnt satisfy me. I think these > translations restrict the potential of the word. > > I would like to read/hear more on this word in both philosophical > and religious/aesthetical usage. > > I sincerely hope such a discourse is within this mailing list's > charter. > > Thank you in advance. > > with humble regards > Jagadish > > --- Hari Krishnan <harikrishnan61@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> Right Hon'ble Srinivasa Sastri equates the Sanskrit >> upalakshana with the English synechdoche. Explaining how >> the name 'Lakshmana' was synonymous with Rama and did not >> need a separate mention, he cites how Lakshmana was sent >> together with Rama, though Viswamitra asked only for Rama. >> He points out that when Viswamitra speaks to the brothers >> on the way, he addresses only Rama and not Lakshmana. Why >> does he do so? Srinivasa Sastri says: >> >> "If he talks to them, he only says 'Rama, Raghava' >> addressing the elder brother. It would be uncharitable to >> assume that he did not like the presence of Lakshmana or >> that he wished intentionally to ignore him. I suppose in >> his mind too, as in the minds of everybody else, to speak >> of Rama was to speak to the other brother too. You need >> not specially have a form of address for it. As he gives >> them instruction in various matters, he mentions Rama and >> not Lakshmana, except once or twice and that when he uses >> the dual number. Even when he taught them the great twin >> mantras of Bala and Atibala, he taught them to Sri Rama. >> The commentator, hard put to explain the matter, says that >> Lakshmana is also included in the word Rama by Upalakshana, >> the Sanskritic equivalent for one of the forms of the >> English figure of speech, synecdoche. When Sri Rama is >> mentioned, Lakshmana is also included in it." >> >> (Lectures on the Ramayana, Second Lecture, page 17) >> >> Now, synecdoche is defined thus "a figure of speech by >> which a part is put for the whole (as fifty sail for fifty >> ships), the whole for a part (as society for high society), >> the species for the genus (as cutthroat for assassin), the >> genus for the species (as a creature for a man), or the >> name of the material for the thing made (as boards for >> stage)" >> >> That is, when I say 'sail' by upalakshna I mean, 'ship' and >> not just the sail. >> >> Regards, >> >> Hari Krishnan >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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