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Dear Sri Devarajan :

I have copied a sishya of Dr.SMS Chari at Bangalore .
He is Dr.Srikanth and he can pass on your query to Dr SMS Chari
and get you the clarifications .

This would be the best route to acquire the contextual
information .

Thanks very much Dr.Srikanth to discuss this request
to Dr.SMS Chari and kindly extend my PraNAmams
to him .

V.Sadagopan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jagadish Devarajan" <mailjags@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] UPALAKSANA


> Thank you Shri.V.Sadagopan and Shri Hari Krishnan.
>
> Let me first mention the context where I encountered the word
> upalakshanam. It was in Shri S.M Srinivasa Chari's book
> Vishistadvaita & Advaita which, as I understand, deals with
> Shri Vedanta Desikan's assertion of Vishistadvaita in his
> work Satadusani. My knowledge of Indian or western philosophical
> traditions is meagre if not nothing.
>
> As I write the following I dont have the book in front of me.
> Please bear with any false representation due to my poor
> understanding or memory.
>
> When the author writes about the effect of rope-snake on the
> observer he mentions upalakshanam. My understanding at this
> point is that rope appearing as a snake is upalakshanam and
> its effect - fear - is upalakshya. Upalakshanam and its effect
> upalakshya cannot be syntactically linked. He translates
> upalakshanam as 'qualification per accidens' and contrasts it
> with viseshna( 'qualification per proprium'). At this point I
> realised the import of the word upalakshanam and my lack of
> full grasp of the word.
>
> I also came across sources that translated upalakshanam as
> metonymy or synechdoche. This doesnt satisfy me. I think these
> translations restrict the potential of the word.
>
> I would like to read/hear more on this word in both philosophical
> and religious/aesthetical usage.
>
> I sincerely hope such a discourse is within this mailing list's
> charter.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> with humble regards
> Jagadish
>
> --- Hari Krishnan <harikrishnan61@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> Right Hon'ble Srinivasa Sastri equates the Sanskrit
>> upalakshana with the English synechdoche.  Explaining how
>> the name 'Lakshmana' was synonymous with Rama and did not
>> need a separate mention, he cites how Lakshmana was sent
>> together with Rama, though Viswamitra asked only for Rama.
>> He points out that when Viswamitra speaks to the brothers
>> on the way, he addresses only Rama and not Lakshmana.  Why
>> does he do so?  Srinivasa Sastri says:
>>
>> "If he talks to them, he only says 'Rama, Raghava'
>> addressing the elder brother.  It would be uncharitable to
>> assume that he did not like the presence of Lakshmana or
>> that he wished intentionally to ignore him.  I suppose in
>> his mind too, as in the minds of everybody else, to speak
>> of Rama was to speak to the other brother too.  You need
>> not specially have a form of address for it.  As he gives
>> them instruction in various matters, he mentions Rama and
>> not Lakshmana, except once or twice and that when he uses
>> the dual number.  Even when he taught them the great twin
>> mantras of Bala and Atibala, he taught them to Sri Rama.
>> The commentator, hard put to explain the matter, says that
>> Lakshmana is also included in the word Rama by Upalakshana,
>> the Sanskritic equivalent for one of the forms of the
>> English figure of speech, synecdoche.  When Sri Rama is
>> mentioned, Lakshmana is also included in it."
>>
>> (Lectures on the Ramayana, Second Lecture, page 17)
>>
>> Now, synecdoche is defined thus "a figure of speech by
>> which a part is put for the whole (as fifty sail for fifty
>> ships), the whole for a part (as society for high society),
>> the species for the genus (as cutthroat for assassin), the
>> genus for the species (as a creature for a man), or the
>> name of the material for the thing made (as boards for
>> stage)"
>>
>> That is, when I say 'sail' by upalakshna I mean, 'ship' and
>> not just the sail.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hari Krishnan
>>
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