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Srimatey Nigamanta Maha Desikaya Namaha 
Dear Bhagavathas,
I hope we are not here to discuss whether shasthras are applicable to 100% 
brahmanas or to 98.643679% brahmanas.(Just for the record - if anyone were to 
be 100% brahmana then he would already be abiding by all the shastras. It is 
for the lesser mortals to come up in spiritual life that shastras have been 
framed. To put it differently, each one should continuously strive for 
achieving 100% even though it may not be possible). We are here to discuss what 
we have on our hands by assuming that shastras are supreme(Shastrayonitvaat as 
the sutrakaara puts it). In such a scenario, we have the following choices:
Try to follow the shastraic principles to the best of our capacity (which is 
not impossible atleast so far as women being prohibited from plucking tulasi 
leaves is concerned)OR
Such souls that consider themselves as super human and equal to the rishis or 
better than them in knowledge could modify the already laid down principles in 
accordance with the time,place etc (or in accordance with their level of 
comfort and keep justifying it)OR
Rubbish the entire shastras as dated and irrelevant for current days of loukika 
dharma and take the risk of Phalanubhavam. As Swami Desika rightly puts it, 
Naasthi chaet naasthi mae haanihi asthi chaet naasthiko hathaha(hope I got that 
right)

The choices rest entirely with the readers. We are not here to pass judgements 
on whether our society is male chauvinistic or whether it has ended or whether 
it is right. Even amongst the Divine Couple, Lord Narayana is considered as 
Pradhana by Swami Desika in his Pradhana Satakam, inspite of all talks of Both 
of Them being equal in various aspects and respects. The Bhagavad Geetha has 
also been given to us by the Lord and not by Piratti. There is not even a 
mention of Piratti - any of them - in the Bhagavad Geetha. We cannot raise 
these issues and say that Lord Krishna is male chauvinistic too. Hence my 
feeling is that we need to confine ourselves to the realms of available 
knowledge which have been given to us by our great Poorvacharyas and not 
deliberate on the genuineness of the same.

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

sri mani ganth <srimani@xxxx> wrote:
Srimathe Nigamantha Deshikaya Nama:

Swamin,

Shasthras were formed for the well-being of the society. In olden days, 
Bhramhanas were doing bagavath Kainkaryam as a fulltime profession. They ahd 
more money & ewlath. These days, in addition to doing thier loukika karmas, we 
r doing also bagavath kainkaryam. So, the Shasthras, which were targeted for 
100% Bhramhanas would'nt apply for us.

For that matter, Sri Thulasi & Periya Piratti themselves are women. Male 
chauvanism has not ended yet. If women are not in their periods, they elgible 
for doing Bagavath kainkaryam.


Adiyen,

Daasan.
>From: Vasudevan VK >To: Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SriRangaSri] 
>Tulasi Aaradhanai >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:52:47 -0800 (PST) > > >Srimatey 
>Nigamanta Maha Desikaya Namaha > >Dear Bhagavatas, > >The article on tulasi 
>worship was indeed excellent. The restrictions pertaining to tulasi that have 
>been mentioned therein pertain to men. This is not to mean that there are no 
>restrictions for women. > >WOMEN SHOULD NEVER PLUCK TULASI LEAVES. THEY ONLY 
>HAVE THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP. IF THEY CONTRAVENE THIS RULE, THE SOUND OF VERY 
>LOUD CRYING WOULD VERY SOON HAPPEN IN THEIR HOUSES. > >This is not to threaten 
>any of the ladies here but is only a reproduction of the shastraic principles 
>mentioned by Muktatma Sri Mukkur Lakshmi Narasimhachariar during one of his 
>famous discourses. > >Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan. > > > 
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