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Dear Sir,

Accepted that Gopuram is spelt with chinna rra. But
when ? But I am not sure about your source for the
same. Do you have a printed version of Tiruvaimozhi
sir ? Maybe printed in 20th Century which does not
still mean that the usage was different earlier?? 

Again I do stand by the intrepretation of Dhiraviyam.


Thanks 

Srinivasan


--- Srinivasa-Gopalan Sampathkumar
<arulmari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear All.,
> 
> Please accept my sincere apologies if I sounded
> personal.
> That is absolutely not my intention.
> 
> In literary Tamil, "Natram" always means vasanai or
> good smell. Even now, for bad smell "dhur Natram" is
> very much in vogue. (in spoken tamil, we use natram
> as implying dhurnatram).
> 
> And diraviyam (also used in sanskrit, dravyam,
> e.g homa dravyam etc..) - directly
> means "porul" or "porul eettuthal" or simply
> earning. 
> there is no reference to dowry in the vakhyam 
> "thirai kadal odiyum thiraviyam thedu" - 
> it only means that one has to earn, even if it means
> 
> sailing on the oceans and going places.
> (without questioning the practices of dowry in
> Sanga Kala Ilakkiyam).
> 
> And Gopuram is always written with chinna "ra" and
> not periya "rra". There is very little chance of 
> maruvuthal here.
> 
> One place in arulicheyal, in thiruvaimozhi,
> (10.9) Soozhvisumbani mugil - it occurs as follows:
> 
> "Kodi ani nedu madhill gopuram kuruginar,
> Vadivudai Madhavan Vaikuntham pugave."
> 
> No doubt, back of Cow is sacred and holy.
> It is only that it may not have any relevance in the
> 
> meaning of Gopuram.
> 
> I am sure any knowledgeable Tamil scholar can throw
> some light on this issue.
> 
> thanks
> -arulmari.
> 
> --------- Original Message ---------
> 
> DATE: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:08:21 
> From: Srinivasan Iyengar <sriniv1410@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: arulmari@xxxxxxxxx, srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: sriniv1410@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> >Dear Everyone,
> >
> >I do stand to explain. Firstly it is not wrong to
> say
> >or use chinna 'rra' that since there has been
> several
> >maruvals in Tamil from the original usages. 
> >
> >For eg Natham originally meant good smell
> >
> >Thiraikadal odiyum  Dhiraviyam thedu meant the
> dowry
> >(Dhiraviyam) the groom had to give to the bride
> since
> >the practise of the tamils yesteryears was that the
> >groom gave the dowry to the bride to marry her.
> >
> >Also the backside of the cow is a holy place since
> >that is where Lakshmi lives according to beliefs.
> >
> >I only can call the hasty remark abhattam a
> Abhattam.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Srinivasan
> >
> >
> >--- Srinivasa-Gopalan Sampathkumar
> ><arulmari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Dear All.,
> >> 
> >> the explanation given by Sri Srinivasan Swami is 
> >> wrong (abhattham).
> >> 
> >> In tamil the backside "puram" will be written
> with
> >> periya "rra" and not chinna "ra" as it is written
> in
> >> Gopuram. Hence, this cannot be the meaning.
> >> 
> >> It is very important to check the fundamental
> >> spelling
> >> differences in tamil script before passing on
> >> meanings
> >> (wrong meanings) to a large number of people in a
> >> forum
> >> like this. 
> >> 
> >> The unfortunate thing is that such things do get
> >> propagated
> >> and people accept it without questioning.
> >> 
> >> Let us not be responsible for the propagation of
> >> wrong, absurd and flawed meanings.
> >> 
> >> If we dont know, then we dont know. that is
> better
> >> than
> >> giving wrong explanations.
> >> 
> >> thanks for your understanding.
> >> 
> >> -arulmari
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --------- Original Message ---------
> >> 
> >> DATE: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:53:56
> >> From: Srinivasan Iyengar <sriniv1410@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Cc: sriniv1410@xxxxxxxxx
> >> 
> >> >Dear Patrons of this site,
> >> >
> >> >Namaskarams. I can explain a little about the
> word
> >> >Gopuram in my sense of understanding. 
> >> >
> >> >Go is Cow. Puram is back side.
> >> >
> >> >The shape of the temple tower is like the cow
> >> looked
> >> >from the back side with ears standing up. Hence
> >> >Gopuram.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >Srinivasan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
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