Dear friends, Jaya vijaya was not nitya suri according to visistadvaitam. They may be nitya suris according to to other traditions. If they are nitya suris neither the sanatkumaras could have cursed them. There is no question of hate or anger in that state. Hence they belong to a lower vaikuntam within bhumandalam known as karya vaikuntam. I like to know about harivamsam which I do not have. Please find out the statement in harivamsam regarding prahlada, vidura , vibhisana. In abhayapradana saram desikar does refer to vibhisana saranagathi as for moksam. adiyen Krishna Kashyap -----Original Message----- From: Rajagopalan Narayan [mailto:rajagopalannarayan@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:52 AM To: srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SriRangaSri] on charanagathi A respected colleague- Kashyap swamin- has in response to my note on charanagathi pointed out that once moksham is afforfed by the Lord as with Vibishana by Rama there cannot be a rebirth. I wish to point out that this is true for the baddha jiva and not to nithyasuris.. The dwarapalaka-jaya and Vijaya are nithysuris of vaikundam and were cursed to be born thrice. The Sanatkumara who cursed them for no fault of theirs was also punished to be born along with them but as vishnubaktha.( refHarivamsa ).Time abd again the nithyasuris are enjoined by the Lord to take birth in this mortal world as Azhwar, Acharya etc as part of His LeelaMy poiint earlier was to indicate that inherent good or bad charecterstics and prarabda karma need not neceesarily be wiped totally when He grants the wish of the asker in a particular situation; Adiyen may be excused for impudence. dasan narayanan. __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/hjtSRD/3MnJAA/i1hLAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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