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Dear friends,
Vinayaka was not worshipped in South India and does not find a place in
the Tamil Sangam literature, I have the authority of Dr U Ve Swaminatha
Iyer, the grand old man of the Tamil Language. He was imported into the
Tamil Country in the time of the Pallava Kings of Kanchi (650 AD) . In the
the sculptures of the Gupta Kings of the Gangetic plains (3 to 5th Centuries
AD). Vinayaka enjoys a niche in the aside, margin as a guardian image. This
can be verified in the magnificent Dasavatara Temple at Devgad of the Gupta
period, this temple, in ruins, is located 25 Kms from Lalithpur near Jhansi.
Obviously Vinayaka is not a Vedic God and cannot enjoy the status of God.
Satakopan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhaktan" <bhaktan@xxxx>
To: <srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Shuklambaradaram Vishnum


> Dear Sir,
>
> This is the way I was taught the meaning (in school - a long time back)
and
> its transliteration.
> It is another way to look at the meaning of the sloka and may help
understand
> why it may refer to Lord Vinayaka.
>
> Suklambaradaram - one who wears a white garment
> Visnum - all pervading
> Sasivarnam - one who has a brilliant complexion (like the full moon)
> Chaturbhujam - one who has four hands
> prasannavadanam - one who has an ever smiling face
> dhyayet - I meditate upon
> sarvavighnopashantaye- for the removal of all obstacles
>
> If we take the word "Visnum" for its literal sanskrit meaning and not as a
> reference to Lord Narayana, then this sloka could refer to Lord Vinayaka
or
> any of the gods that people worship in our faith. Couple this with the
line
> asking for "removal of all obstacles", the most common request asked of
Lord
> Vinayaka and what he is known for as well.
>
> This interpretation may be why it is commonplace for people (me included)
to
> think that this sloka refers to Lord Vinayaka.
>
> All languages are open to interpretation and Sanskrit, only more so.
> That is the beauty and the power of Sanskrit.
>
>
> Jai SrimanNarayana!
> Siva.
>
> Quoting Murali Krishna <vmkrishna26@xxxx>:
>
> > "sukhlam bharadaram ...." appears as prelude to vishnu saharanamam(in
the
> > poorva bhagam). But no where the second stanza addressing
Vinayaka/gajanana
> > appears in it . In fact it is followed either by a stanza addressing
> > vishwaksena(yasya dviradavaktradhya parisadyah....) or Vyasa(vyasam
vasista
> > naptharam....). From these, we can easily infer that "Shuklam
> > bharadaram...." addresses the supreme vishnu/Narayana and only vishnu.
The
> > addition of the other stanza relating to vinayaka/gajanana is to mislead
> > people by some unscrupulous elements. Sorry if this hurts someone's
> > sentiments, but facts are facts and have to be taken at its face value.
> >
> > -vmkrishna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M Karpagam <m_karpagam@xxxx> wrote:
> > I read somewhere that the complete
> > "Shuklambaradaram Vishnum
> > >shashivarnam...... is
> >
> > Shuklaambaradaram Vishnum
> > shashivarnam chathurbujam
> > prasanna vadanam dhiyayethe
> > sarva vignopha saanthaye
> >
> > Gajanaana padmasana
> > gajanaana mahirsham
> > ane`ka dantam bakthanaama
> > eka dantam upasmayema.
> >
> > - Karpagam.
> >
> >
> > >From: sukumar
> > >To: "Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" ,
> > >Oppiliappan , "ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > >
> > >Subject: [SriRangaSri] RE: the meaning of pranavam
> > >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 19:03:10 +0530
> > >
> > >
> > >Sri Krishnaya Namah!
> > >
> > >I have been looking for meaning of the sloka -- "Shuklambaradaram
Vishnum
> > >shashivarnam............." As I can deduce nowhere in this sloka there
is
> > >mention of Vinayaka, while there is a mention of Lord Vishnu. One of my
> > >acquintances (who is a purohit) also told me that this sloka is
actually
> > >addressed to Lord Vishnu.
> > >
> > >If this is for Vinayaka, then do we have any such sloka for Lord
> > >Vishwaksena, which is chanted before starting any auspicious deeds.
> > >
> > >
> > >Sukumar
> > >
> > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!
>
>
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