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- June 24th, 2017, 2:42 pm
- Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
- Topic: aorist indicative with future reference
- Replies: 15
- Views: 7177
Re: aorist indicative with future reference
Perhaps a new category here. Always a temptation for those of us who indulge in a multiplicity. Not sure how to christen it. Never a thing to rush into. I think it could render the meaning something like 'Your father has as good as killed you.' ὁ φυτεύσας πατὴρ looks like an amusing tautology to fil...
- June 19th, 2017, 9:22 am
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3779
Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Peter, the idiom appears to be unique to the Apocalypse. A tidy analysis is difficult. My above view is conjectural. A recent study by Lautentiu Mot supports Jonathan's view. He thinks ἐκ is here a Latinism 'away from'. ἐκ away from sounds Latin and makes sense in Greek only as a construct praegnans...
- June 17th, 2017, 10:53 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3779
Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Diachronistically there is a tendency in Greek for prepositions to move from a pre-verbal position to a pre-argument one. So I would assume that νικάω ἐκ is a modified form of ἐκνικάω. 'Beat the crap out of' gives the sense–––though hardly the flavour of acceptable Biblical English.
- June 15th, 2017, 3:10 pm
- Forum: Beginners Forum
- Topic: Isaiah 52:13-14, question on the subject
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4151
Re: Isaiah 52:13-14, question on the subject
Decker has ἡ δόξα σου as a separate clause where he says "To make good sense in English, a verb must be supplied before [απο των ανθρωπων]". Yes, that would be right. Sorry, I was taking τὸ εἶδος σου, καὶ ἡ δόξα σου as a compound subject, whereas καί begins a separate clause. To get the s...
- June 15th, 2017, 1:35 pm
- Forum: Beginners Forum
- Topic: Isaiah 52:13-14, question on the subject
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4151
Re: Isaiah 52:13-14, question on the subject
οὕτως introduces a correlative clause of manner, where the subject is τὸ εἶδός σου, καὶ ἡ δόξα σου. It's not unusual in Greek for a compound subject to take a verb in the singular.
- May 19th, 2017, 5:36 pm
- Forum: Beginners Forum
- Topic: Copulative verbs
- Replies: 15
- Views: 9904
Re: Copulative verbs
A moot point with the tagging. I would refer to the assertion μὲλλει γενὲσθαι πατὴρ as the predicate (P) where πατὴρ is the predicate nominative (PN). Hmmm .... do you use verb phrases? In the Lowfat model, we do not have verb phrases, a clause is governed by a verb, and each constituent in the cla...
- May 19th, 2017, 2:27 pm
- Forum: Beginners Forum
- Topic: Copulative verbs
- Replies: 15
- Views: 9904
Re: Copulative verbs
Jonathan Robie wrote: ↑May 19th, 2017, 1:51 pm No - let's look at the internal structure of this: s Μιχαηλ v μέλλει o vc γενέσθαι p πατήρ So ... reasoning from that, what do you think the subject and predicate of γένωνται are in Matthew 4:3? Matt 4:3 εἰπὲ ἵνα οἱ λίθοι οὗτοι ἄρτοι γένωνται. First, v...
- April 27th, 2017, 2:51 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: John 4:41
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1444
Re: John 4:41
Neil,
Your mistaking πλείους for an accusative is understandable, as the 2nd declension accusative plurals end in -ους. But πλείους is really an elided form of πλείονες (3rd declension nominative plural). The ν has elided and the adjacent vowels ο and ε have contracted to ου.
Your mistaking πλείους for an accusative is understandable, as the 2nd declension accusative plurals end in -ους. But πλείους is really an elided form of πλείονες (3rd declension nominative plural). The ν has elided and the adjacent vowels ο and ε have contracted to ου.
- April 13th, 2017, 10:44 am
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Split Constituent in John 2:11
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10320
Re: Split Constituent in John 2:11
I know accomplished writers and editors who admit to having a poor grasp of grammar. I don't arrogantly pretend to have a better understanding than they do. I know accomplished writers and editors who admit to having a poor grasp of Grammar. I don't arrogantly pretend to have a better understanding...
- April 13th, 2017, 4:40 am
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Split Constituent in John 2:11
- Replies: 41
- Views: 10320
Re: Split Constituent in John 2:11
Could you take a text or two and show us how these tools enhance our understanding of the text? These tools don't enhance our understanding of a text. They simply make explicit things that are otherwise understood implicitly. I know accomplished writers and editors who admit to having a poor grasp ...