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by Jean Putmans
August 20th, 2023, 2:03 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
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Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

Thanks for the answers, and for the explanation.

In all cases, the expression is followed by a Vocative. Could attraction (Smyth § 926) be an aspect? Could the scribe be tempted, to adapt the case from Dative (fitting to the expression) to the Nominative, fitting to the Vocative.
by Jean Putmans
August 20th, 2023, 9:07 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

not “thrustfull” but “ trustful/trustworthy”!

The ancient Greeks did better, even without spell-checker (well they had a human one, called corrector).
by Jean Putmans
August 20th, 2023, 8:39 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

I have done some further searching in the INTF-Collations. Checking all Mss with at least two NT-Verses with the expression τι εμοι/ημιν και σοι/συ; from this list I selected those mss that had at least two verses with this expression. This list was checked for other instances with “switching” betwe...
by Jean Putmans
August 19th, 2023, 1:49 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

to my remark

The Mss 544 and 2680 are the only ones I found, that have συ instead of σοι.

should be added: , in Mk 1:24, 5:7, Mt 8:29, John 2:4.

In Luke these mss are not transcribed in the INTF.
by Jean Putmans
August 19th, 2023, 1:28 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

Addition

Lk 4:34 has συ in the mss. 02 and 038; Lk 8:38 in ms 038.

Luke however has not so many transcriptions in the INTF-Database.
by Jean Putmans
August 19th, 2023, 1:26 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

Starting with a correction: In my opening post I mentioned ms 555, that should be 544.

The Mss 544 and 2680 are the only ones I found, that have συ instead of σοι.

Remarcable is, that 544 nowhere else in the ms changes σοι > συ or v.v. 2680 has this in Mk 9:5, Mt 16:19, 17:4.
by Jean Putmans
August 18th, 2023, 1:00 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

In Mk 1:24 (4-10), 5:7 (12-14) there is no witness listed at all, neither for σοι, σοι(r), nor for συ. Acts 8:20 doesn’t mention 1735(r), 2344(r) Mk 1: 11 indeed has 837(r), Mk 14:31: 382(r) and 1253(r). I do understand the spelling-issue, specially respecting the printed edition, but the on-line-ed...
by Jean Putmans
August 18th, 2023, 9:45 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

εν σοι ECM Mark Mk 1:11 (Ms 837), 11:23 (Ms 579*, 579corr), συν σοι ECM MARK Mk 14:31 (Ms 382, 1253), ECM Acts 8:20 (ms 1735, 2344; maybe 1828 < Swanson; according to The Liste: lost): no mentioning of συ instead of σοι. The other witnesses for συ instead of σοι (Mt 11:23: ms 579*, 579corr; 2Tim 1:5...
by Jean Putmans
August 17th, 2023, 9:06 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

Re: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

Indeed, that could be possible, though the statistics seem to be not in favour of an error:

I checked συν σοι / συν συ ; εν σοι / εν συ and λεγω σοι / λεγω συ in a maior part of the INTF-Collations:

συν σοι : 393 x, συν συ : 5x

εν σοι : 1364 x , εν συ : 5 x

λεγω σοι : 1164 x, λεγω συ : 3 x
by Jean Putmans
August 17th, 2023, 1:54 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τι εμοι/ημιν και συ
Replies: 15
Views: 9885

τι εμοι/ημιν και συ

τι εμοι/ημιν και συ is a reading occuring in Mt 8:29; Mk 1:24; 5:7; Lk 4:34; 8:28; John 2:4; I found it comparing the Mss 826 and 828. Checking this reading in the INTF-Collations turned out, that about 20% of all transcribed Mss. have συ instead of σοι. (I collected a total of 640 Mss, 145 of them ...

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