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by Ken M. Penner
July 22nd, 2021, 9:40 am
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 580

Re: Hebrew / Greek texts to align

Ah, here's one place I can look, NETS includes a section called Translation Profile of the Greek for each book. Nice find! Those Translation Profiles almost all say this book is characterized by formal equivalence/isomorphism/quantitative equivalence/literalness/interlinearity. Job and Old Greek Da...
by Ken M. Penner
July 21st, 2021, 2:29 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 580

Re: Hebrew / Greek texts to align

For a project I am working on, I am looking for Hebrew / Greek texts where both the Hebrew and the Greek are natural and understandable, and where they have the same basic meaning, whether or not word order is similar or they say it in similar ways. What LXX passages would you look to first for thi...
by Ken M. Penner
July 12th, 2021, 2:20 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Christian 'corruption' of Psalms 14/53 to match Romans 3:10-18
Replies: 20
Views: 4796

Re: Christian 'corruption' of Psalms 14/53 to match Romans 3:10-18

Brian Gould wrote: July 12th, 2021, 1:50 pmIf you happen to know what either Law or Beckwith has to say about this verse, would you perhaps be so kind as to post something about it here at B-Greek?
Law and Beckwith do not address this verse.
Well, Beckwith does mention the citation formula, but that's all.
by Ken M. Penner
July 8th, 2021, 12:42 pm
Forum: Books
Topic: Jones - Translation and Style in the Old Greek Psalter
Replies: 6
Views: 1255

Re: Jones - Translation and Style in the Old Greek Psalter

It clearly shouldn't be listed under the Septuagint Commentary Series; her doctoral supervisor, Mark Boda, is assigned to write on the Psalms. FWIW, I was the external examiner for this dissertation. The editors of the Septuagint Monograph Series are not listed, but I expect they are the same as the...
by Ken M. Penner
June 17th, 2021, 7:52 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Ps 29 (30) v6
Replies: 7
Views: 1075

Re: Ps 29 (30) v6

According to TLG, the Septuagint has the earliest attested instances of τὸ ἑσπέρας. In searching this up, I discovered this gem from PTOLEMAEUS, De differentia vocabulorum (= Περὶ διαφορᾶς λέξεων) [Sp.] (e codd. Ottobon. gr. 43 + Vat. gr. 197). {1643.003} page 393. τὸ ἑσπέρας τοῦ ὀψὲ διαφέρει· ἑσπέρ...
by Ken M. Penner
June 16th, 2021, 8:55 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Ps 29 (30) v6
Replies: 7
Views: 1075

Re: Ps 29 (30) v6

In Ps 29 (30) v6, what is the force of the neuter article? τὸ ἑσπέρας αὐλισθήσεται κλαυθμὸς Is it because ἑσπέρας by itself (or with τῆς) would be ambiguous? Good question. I don't have a good answer. I'm guessing some noun is elided, but a plausible candidate is not coming to mind right now. Murao...
by Ken M. Penner
June 11th, 2021, 1:59 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the Genitive
Replies: 23
Views: 3208

Re: Teaching the Genitive

Stephen Carlson wrote: June 10th, 2021, 6:27 pm
Ken M. Penner wrote: June 10th, 2021, 8:14 am I give a basic meaning of nominal qualification using "-type" and "of" as glosses, and then some Wallace-style examples to demonstrate the range of meaning.
So the answer is both? ;-)
Well, a bit of both. I certainly don't give them all of Wallace's categories up front.
by Ken M. Penner
June 10th, 2021, 8:14 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the Genitive
Replies: 23
Views: 3208

Re: Teaching the Genitive

Do you give a basic meaning of possession or intrinsic relationship and hope the student infers the full usage in their reading, or do you go the full Wallace and give the students a list of 30+ possible meanings to audition? I give a basic meaning of nominal qualification using "-type" a...
by Ken M. Penner
May 25th, 2021, 6:40 pm
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: The meaning of Hebrews 4:15b
Replies: 27
Views: 3030

Re: The meaning of Hebrews 4:15b

Then I have no idea why you declared that the discussion of the meaning of πειρᾶζω has ended. Jeffrey Jeffrey, I think Eeli was not declaring that the discussion the meaning of πειρᾶζω has ended, but was reporting the error message received when trying to follow the link you provided ( https://www....

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