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by cwconrad
June 10th, 2017, 11:22 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Theophilus of Antioch
Replies: 3
Views: 2104

Re: Theophilus of Antioch

Can anyone what Theophilus means by this text: Ὅπως δὲ καὶ ἡ πλάσις δειχθῇ, πρὸς τὸ μὴ δοκεῖν εἶναι ζήτημα ἐν ἀνθρώποις ἀνεύρετον, (Theophilus of Antioch, Ad Autolycum, 2. 19. 13-14) But that the creation of man might be made plain, so that there should not seem to be an insoluble problem existing ...
by cwconrad
April 23rd, 2017, 11:08 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Which kind of Accusative ὑπηκόους γινομένους
Replies: 5
Views: 2539

Re: Which kind of Accusative ὑπηκόους γινομένους

This is what's called an "anacoluthon," that is, a construction that is often somewhat lengthy, the sequential segments of which do not cohere properly. When I learned my English grammar, we were taught to call them "run-on sentences." They result from giving voice -- or continui...
by cwconrad
April 22nd, 2017, 5:55 am
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: verbal adjectives formed with -τέον Eu.IA
Replies: 7
Views: 8629

Re: verbal adjectives formed with -τέον Eu.IA

See an old discussion on this from from 20 years ago. Well, well, well ... The old lore that I learned from others and that I taught. I'm reminded of a high-school Geometry teacher who declared that Euclid was still the authority in the field. His maxim about textbooks was, "The new books are ...
by cwconrad
April 21st, 2017, 5:35 am
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: verbal adjectives formed with -τέον Eu.IA
Replies: 7
Views: 8629

Re: verbal adjectives formed with -τέον Eu.IA

δραστέον δ᾿ ἅ σοι δοκεῖ . We must do as you think best . "We must" is the translator's artistic choice here. He could have rendered, "It is necessary for me to", "I should", "Our only [or best ] option is to", or anything similar. The "as" is also a...
by cwconrad
April 21st, 2017, 4:36 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.
Replies: 21
Views: 4817

Re: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.

I really feel that I lost the concept of versification in my 51 marks, 1 mark wwasted approach to study. Now in my 50th year, I am a little less headstrong, and if you'd care to set out just this, I might be ready to lsten, if you'd like to explain, I'd be okay. This is a matter of what is called &...
by cwconrad
April 20th, 2017, 6:28 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.
Replies: 21
Views: 4817

Re: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.

About the ἐσμέν. Whether 1.) Paul used a slightly modified quotation with ἐσμέν instead of εἰμέν, 2.) this was a street-level popular (mis-)quotation, or 3.) the early redaction / transmission of Luke / Acts "standardised" the epic εἰμέν to the Koine form ἐσμέν, from the point of view of ...
by cwconrad
April 19th, 2017, 6:29 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.
Replies: 21
Views: 4817

Re: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.

Perhaps you haven’t yet encountered the great “Hymn to Zeus” by the Stoic Chrysippus? Do you mean Cleanthes of Assos, (successor of Zeno and predecessor of Chrysippus)? If that is the one, then here is a scan of Blakeney's edition with a commentary and notes published by the SPCK in 1931. An older ...
by cwconrad
April 19th, 2017, 10:40 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.
Replies: 21
Views: 4817

Re: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.

Now the question becomes: "Who, precisely, are we ? If you're referring to those of us who are reading these texts today, we certainly differ widely in our experience of reading different kinds of Greek from different eras of antiquity. I think it's true that many of us on B-Greek are not very...
by cwconrad
April 19th, 2017, 7:00 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.
Replies: 21
Views: 4817

Re: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.

Are there other places in the New Testament where it looks like an articular adjective is separated by a finite verb? The question seems oddly phrased. This text is found in the NT, but it is not describable in terms of standard NT Koine usage. The passage is cited from a poem composed in epic dial...
by cwconrad
April 19th, 2017, 5:59 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.
Replies: 21
Views: 4817

Re: Acts 17:28 Τοῦ γὰρ καὶ γένος ἐσμέν.

τὸν οὐδέποτ᾽ ἄνδρες ἐῶμεν ἄρρητον: Are there other places in the New Testament where it looks like an articular adjective is separated by a finite verb? The question seems oddly phrased. This text is found in the NT, but it is not describable in terms of standard NT Koine usage. The passage is cite...

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