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by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 10:24 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 20
Views: 1466

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

Let's not forget that throughout the Greek noun system, the nominative and the vocative are nearly always identical. It is only in the second declension ( ὁ ἄνθρωπος > ὦ ἄνθρωπε ) and in some third declension forms ( ὁ πατήρ > ὦ πάτερ ) do they differ. It is a perfectly natural tendency in the langu...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 10:16 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: In John 17:3, are these two variants identical in meaning?
Replies: 6
Views: 583

Re: In John 17:3, are these two variants identical in meaning?

So would it be fair to say that neither rendering, cause or effect, can be ruled out? Our best bet then being to look for contextual clues? IE: The grammar itself doesn't lean either way? Does the NT use ἵνα + subj. for resultant clauses? That's the normal structure for purpose clauses. Now you've ...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 10:14 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: διηγησις - εν τη οδω
Replies: 10
Views: 1548

Re: διηγησις - εν τη οδω

Εν τη οδω οτε ημην μειρακιον, ηλθεν η οικια μου πολλακις εν οδω, ο πατηρ ελαυνων το αμαξαν, η μητηρ καθημενη εν δεξια αυτου, καγω και η αδελφη μου καθημενοι οπισω των γονεων. μακραν υπαρχουσα η οδος, και υστεριζων τι πρασσειν, ηρξαμην λοιδορειν και κεντριζειν τω δακτυλι μου την αδελφην. η δε, μετα ...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 9:28 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: διηγησις - εν τη οδω
Replies: 10
Views: 1548

Re: διηγησις - εν τη οδω

κατὰ Trenchard τίνι ὑποτακτικὸς (post-positive νομίζω;) ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ τινὶ οὐ. οὐτὸς τί, τίνα, τινάς, τινές, τίνι, τινῶν, τίς, καὶ τισί(ν) ἀναγράφει, ἀλλʹ οὐκ ἄλλο. Δανιήλ. But that's exactly wrong. The interrogative τίς κτλ. is particularly not postpositive, while the indefinite τὶς κτλ. is. Thus, o...
by Jason Hare
December 4th, 2020, 3:49 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: διηγησις - εν τη οδω
Replies: 10
Views: 1548

Re: διηγησις - εν τη οδω

Here's something I wrote for a class sometime ago (originally in Latin, and then in Greek): Τινὶ ἠμέρᾳ ἄνθρωπος ἐν τοῖς δένδροις ἔβαινε πότε τὸν ἄρκον εἶδεν. ὀ δὲ ἄνθρωπος ἔκραζεν ὅτι “ἄρκους ἀγαπῶ” καὶ τότε ἐκ τῆς πήρας αὐτοῦ βρῶμα ἔλαβε καὶ αὐτὸ τῷ ἄρκῳ ἔδωκεν. ὁ δὲ ἄρκος ἠγαλλιάσατο καὶ φίλος το...
by Jason Hare
November 23rd, 2020, 11:07 pm
Forum: Alphabet and Pronunciation
Topic: pronunciation difference between η and ει
Replies: 11
Views: 1216

Re: pronunciation difference between η and ει

Well, that's all good information. Seem bad for communication, though. Can you imagine speaking a language in which you cannot distinguish orally/aurally between "you" and "we"? "I pray that God gives us [ἡμῖν] reprieve from our [ἡμῶν] troubles." > Which someone takes a...
by Jason Hare
November 23rd, 2020, 3:53 pm
Forum: Alphabet and Pronunciation
Topic: pronunciation difference between η and ει
Replies: 11
Views: 1216

Re: pronunciation difference between η and ει

Barry Hofstetter wrote: November 23rd, 2020, 12:05 pm Confusion between ἠμεῖς and ὐμεῖς is pretty common in the manuscripts.
Because the manuscripts were from a different period, no? Do we see such confusion in the earlier manuscripts?
by Jason Hare
November 23rd, 2020, 9:33 am
Forum: Alphabet and Pronunciation
Topic: pronunciation difference between η and ει
Replies: 11
Views: 1216

Re: pronunciation difference between η and ει

The modern Greek,pronunciation is called iotacism. Ai, Ei, oi, I, ETA, are all pronounced the same. It makes learning correct spelling difficult for beginners in the Greek language. That is why in teaching beginning Greek I did not use this modern Greek pronunciation, though I taught students about...
by Jason Hare
November 13th, 2020, 12:27 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 1115

Re: Coining a phrase

I had wondered if what I said might be interpreted as something like 'scholastic questions'. So I can imagine things like ἐρωτήματα διδασκαλείῳ ἐρωτηματα ἐν [τῷ] διδασκαλείῳ ἐρωτἠματα σχολῇ ἐρωτήματα ἐν [τῇ] σχολῇ or the verbal forms as Jason proposed τὰ ἐν τῷ διδασκαλείῳ ἐρωτώμενα would all be int...
by Jason Hare
November 13th, 2020, 12:23 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 1115

Re: Coining a phrase

Δανιήλ, χαῖρε. 1. Is the verbal phrasing to be preferred ? Is it more Greek ? might well be and I had considered doing something similar It's not really verbal. It's a participle, which is certainly very common. I would think that this would be a better expression. Maybe others should chime in on t...

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