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by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 3:16 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 20
Views: 747

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

Okay, so I found this in Liddell: θεός , ὁ, Boeot. θιός , Lacon. σιός (v. infr.), Cypr., Cret. θιός Inscr.Cypr.135.27 H., Leg.Gort.1.1, Dor. also θεύς Call.Cer.58; acc. θεῦν v.l. ib.130; voc. (only late) θεός, also ... http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=qeo...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 11:46 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 20
Views: 747

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

In my original question I cite this source: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%8C%CF%82#Adjective This time I intentionally edited the post to correct the link. ;) Yeah, I checked that link just after I submitted the post. Notice that it says that it is used adjectivally only in the com...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 11:40 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 20
Views: 747

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

So basically, in Koine, the "nominative" form can equally be nominative, adjective and vocative, with context being necessary in order to identify which is intended? I was going to just ask about the word "adjective" here and if it was a typo. I don't think that a noun in the no...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 11:33 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: In John 17:3, are these two variants identical in meaning?
Replies: 6
Views: 220

Re: In John 17:3, are these two variants identical in meaning?

So would it be fair to say that neither rendering, cause or effect, can be ruled out? Our best bet then being to look for contextual clues? IE: The grammar itself doesn't lean either way? When I have a problem with a section or when something like this comes up, I like to "take a run at the pa...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 10:24 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 20
Views: 747

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

Let's not forget that throughout the Greek noun system, the nominative and the vocative are nearly always identical. It is only in the second declension ( ὁ ἄνθρωπος > ὦ ἄνθρωπε ) and in some third declension forms ( ὁ πατήρ > ὦ πάτερ ) do they differ. It is a perfectly natural tendency in the langu...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 10:16 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: In John 17:3, are these two variants identical in meaning?
Replies: 6
Views: 220

Re: In John 17:3, are these two variants identical in meaning?

So would it be fair to say that neither rendering, cause or effect, can be ruled out? Our best bet then being to look for contextual clues? IE: The grammar itself doesn't lean either way? Does the NT use ἵνα + subj. for resultant clauses? That's the normal structure for purpose clauses. Now you've ...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 10:14 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: διηγησις - εν τη οδω
Replies: 10
Views: 520

Re: διηγησις - εν τη οδω

Εν τη οδω οτε ημην μειρακιον, ηλθεν η οικια μου πολλακις εν οδω, ο πατηρ ελαυνων το αμαξαν, η μητηρ καθημενη εν δεξια αυτου, καγω και η αδελφη μου καθημενοι οπισω των γονεων. μακραν υπαρχουσα η οδος, και υστεριζων τι πρασσειν, ηρξαμην λοιδορειν και κεντριζειν τω δακτυλι μου την αδελφην. η δε, μετα ...
by Jason Hare
December 5th, 2020, 9:28 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: διηγησις - εν τη οδω
Replies: 10
Views: 520

Re: διηγησις - εν τη οδω

κατὰ Trenchard τίνι ὑποτακτικὸς (post-positive νομίζω;) ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ τινὶ οὐ. οὐτὸς τί, τίνα, τινάς, τινές, τίνι, τινῶν, τίς, καὶ τισί(ν) ἀναγράφει, ἀλλʹ οὐκ ἄλλο. Δανιήλ. But that's exactly wrong. The interrogative τίς κτλ. is particularly not postpositive, while the indefinite τὶς κτλ. is. Thus, o...
by Jason Hare
December 4th, 2020, 3:49 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: διηγησις - εν τη οδω
Replies: 10
Views: 520

Re: διηγησις - εν τη οδω

Here's something I wrote for a class sometime ago (originally in Latin, and then in Greek): Τινὶ ἠμέρᾳ ἄνθρωπος ἐν τοῖς δένδροις ἔβαινε πότε τὸν ἄρκον εἶδεν. ὀ δὲ ἄνθρωπος ἔκραζεν ὅτι “ἄρκους ἀγαπῶ” καὶ τότε ἐκ τῆς πήρας αὐτοῦ βρῶμα ἔλαβε καὶ αὐτὸ τῷ ἄρκῳ ἔδωκεν. ὁ δὲ ἄρκος ἠγαλλιάσατο καὶ φίλος το...
by Jason Hare
November 23rd, 2020, 11:07 pm
Forum: Alphabet and Pronunciation
Topic: pronunciation difference between η and ει
Replies: 11
Views: 523

Re: pronunciation difference between η and ει

Well, that's all good information. Seem bad for communication, though. Can you imagine speaking a language in which you cannot distinguish orally/aurally between "you" and "we"? "I pray that God gives us [ἡμῖν] reprieve from our [ἡμῶν] troubles." > Which someone takes a...

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