αρσενοκοιτης and ανδροκοιτης

[timothy_p_mcmahon]

Wondering if anyone could shed light on the distinction (if any) between αρσενοκοιτης and ανδροκοιτης.

My first issue is my inability to track down any evidence for ανδροκοιτης. Unless I'm having a particularly bad day, it doesn't appear in LSJ, so I can't even locate a lexical definition or any documented examples.

Assuming the word exists in ancient Greek, does it appear before or after the first documented occurrence of αρσενοκοιτης in (I've been told) the NT?

Any help would be appreciated.

[Stephen Hughes]

Any help would be appreciated.

ἀκοίτης, ἀνδροκοιτεῖν, ἀρσενοκοίτης, δουλοκοίτης, μητροκοίτης, παρακοίτης, σύγκοιτος

It is always better to widen your search. It is not often that a substantive result comes from just blinkering yourself on a particular pair of words. In addition to these selection of words that I have listed, you could do a search using appropriate English glosses in the Louw-Nida Lexicon.

the first documented occurrence of ἀρσενοκοίτης

It seems that the first, sixth and seventh words are older words possibly used in an non-pejorative sense.

[Stephen Carlson]

My first issue is my inability to track down any evidence for ανδροκοιτης. Unless I'm having a particularly bad day, it doesn't appear in LSJ, so I can't even locate a lexical definition or any documented examples.

LSJ has the verbal cognate:

ἀνδρο-κοιτέω, sleep with a man, BGU 1058.30(i B.C.), Aët.1.142.

Lampe has the noun, with the definition sodomite. TLG has only one use of the noun, by John Malalas, Chronographia 18.18, in the fifth or sixth century CE:

καὶ συνεσχέθησαν ἐν αὐτῷ τῷ καιρῷ πολλοὶ ἀνδροκοῖται, καὶ καυλοτομηθέντες ἀπέθανον.

Assuming the word exists in ancient Greek, does it appear before or after the first documented occurrence of αρσενοκοιτης in (I've been told) the NT?

If you can trust the reference to the papyrus in LSJ and its dating, the verbal form ἀνδροκοιτέω would predate the N.T.

[Bryant J. Williams III]

I would recommend the following: http://www.chrys-caragounis.com/Popular ... erotic.pdf. The 126 pages is well-written and covers a lot of ground.

En Xristwi,

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

[cwconrad]

Inasmuch as this topic makes no reference to any specific GNT text in which these words appear, I don't understand why it wasn't posted under "Word Meanings' in the "Language and Linguistics" forum. Our forum structure seems reasonably well organized, but misplaced topics are like misshelved books in a library that are discovered only by accident.

[Jonathan Robie]

Inasmuch as this topic makes no reference to any specific GNT text in which these words appear, I don't understand why it wasn't posted under "Word Meanings' in the "Language and Linguistics" forum. Our forum structure seems reasonably well organized, but misplaced topics are like misshelved books in a library that are discovered only by accident.

OK, I moved it.

[timothy_p_mcmahon]

I don't understand why it wasn't posted under "Word Meanings' in the "Language and Linguistics" forum.

Because I forgot about that subforum. Obviously, Carl, that's the ideal category for this inquiry. Thanks, Jonathan, for moving it.

And thanks to all for your contributions.