Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: ↑July 11th, 2021, 2:39 pm
OK...so it seems like part of my problem comes from τις
ἔν τινι παραπτώματι means "in some transgression", so if I understood your explanation, yes, it's "τις + noun (substantive)" and τις is interpreted as in English "some..." or "any...". (We wouldn't say that "meaning is morphed").
In v. 3a it's alone, in masculine form, working as the subject of the clause and means "someone, some person". In v3b it's in neuter form, so it means "something". The latter is with εἶναί, infinitive, but also without a noun.
The English rendering of μηδὲν isn't important; both "nothing" and "of no weight" etc. work and are understandable. But rhetorically this is very effective in Koine with 3 x 2 words and even in English "someone", "something" and "nothing" can very well carry the meaning of the original.
EDIT: I and Daniel seem to have very similar thoughts.
So, this is what I am understanding from you and Daniel...(I will break it down, I will put in bold my choice in considering grammar)
εἰ - if
γὰρ - because
δοκεῖ - thinks, imagines, considers, appear, is of the opinion
τις - someone
εἶναί - "to be" verb in the present infinitive "is"
τι - something, someone, a certain one
μηδὲν - (metaphorically with ων) being nothing, of no account, no weight of character
ὤν, - "to be" verb in the present "is" or "to be"
ἑαυτόν - "he deceives" Present tense
φρεναπατᾷ. - himself
"Because if someone is of the opinion that he is something of no weight of character, he is deceiving himself."
Would we then have a consensus on this, or where does it need to be changed? For my part, I would translate "someone," taking the context of verses 1-2 into consideration, as "he"...but that really doesn't change the text's meaning...unless Paul is not still addressing the guy in verse one. But to me, it appears obvious that he is still in dialogue concerning verse 1.
If this is true, then it still does not answer the question as to why so many English translations continue with "For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing," (ESV)...because, getting back to μηδὲν translated as "nothing" when according to the grammar, it does not mean nothing in this text...
mēdeís; fem. mēdemía, neut. mēdén, adj. from mēdé (G3366), and not, also not, and heís (G1520), one. Not even one, no one, i.e., no one whoever he may be, from the indef. and hypothetical power of mḗ, differing from oudeís (G3762), not even one, as mḗ differs from ou. For the difference, see mḗ (G3361).
(I) Generally (Mat_16:20; Mar_6:8; Joh_8:10; Act_4:21; 1Co_1:7; Heb_10:2). With mḗ (G3361), not, mēkéti (G3371), no further, or mēdeís (G3367), not a single one, repeated in a strengthened negation (1Pe_3:6). See Mar_11:14; Act_4:17; 2Co_6:3.
(II) In prohibitions, e.g., after the pres. imper. (Luk_3:13; 1Co_3:18, 1Co_3:21; Tit_2:15; Jas_1:13); with the imper. implied (Mat_27:19; Php_2:3); with duplicate neg. (Mar_1:44; Rom_13:8). Followed by the aor. subjunctive (Mat_8:4; Mat_17:9; Act_16:28).
(III) Neut. mēdén, nothing.
(A) As an adv., not at all, in no respect, e.g., without gainsaying (Act_10:20; Act_11:12; Jas_1:6). After verbs of profit or loss, deficiency (Mar_5:26; Luk_4:35; 2Co_11:5; Php_4:6); with en (G1722), in, meaning in nothing, in no respect (2Co_7:9; Php_1:28; Jas_1:4).
(B) Metaphorically, mēdén ṓn (ṓn [G5607], the pres. part. of eimí [G1510], to be), meaning being nothing, i.e., of no account, no weight of character (Gal_6:3).
Syn.: oudeís (G3762), no one, more absolute and obj. than mēdeís; mḗtis (G3387), no man, not anyone.
Ant.: hékastos (G1538), each one; pás (G3956), every; hápas (G537), the whole, all.
Zodhiates, Word Study NT Dictionary, electronic version