Hebrews 2:15

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3dearlabs
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Hebrews 2:15

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I have long thought that Hebrews 2:15 should be translated "to fear of death" instead of "through fear of death", to better coincide with Romans 8:15 ("slavery leading to fear again"). I am not a Greek scholar, and I was wondering if the Greek in this verse (Hebrews 2:15) somehow requires a "through" for the dative rather than a "to".
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Re: Hebrews 2:15

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3dearlabs wrote: July 19th, 2021, 11:17 pm I have long thought that Hebrews 2:15 should be translated "to fear of death" instead of "through fear of death", to better coincide with Romans 8:15 ("slavery leading to fear again"). I am not a Greek scholar, and I was wondering if the Greek in this verse (Hebrews 2:15) somehow requires a "through" for the dative rather than a "to".
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Stirling Bartholomew
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Re: Hebrews 2:15

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I have long thought that Hebrews 2:15 should be translated "to fear of death" instead of "through fear of death", to better coincide with Romans 8:15 ("slavery leading to fear again").
Heb. 2:15 καὶ ἀπαλλάξῃ τούτους, ὅσοι φόβῳ θανάτου διὰ παντὸς τοῦ ζῆν ἔνοχοι ἦσαν δουλείας.

Rom. 8:15 οὐ γὰρ ἐλάβετε πνεῦμα δουλείας πάλιν εἰς φόβον ἀλλὰ ἐλάβετε πνεῦμα υἱοθεσίας ἐν ᾧ κράζομεν· ἀββα ὁ πατήρ.
Are you suggesting that εἰς φόβον is somehow similar to φόβῳ? Similar in what manner?
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Bill Ross
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Re: Hebrews 2:15

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I feel most comfortable in the shallow end of the pool, but it appears that this article might possibly be related to the εἰς part of the equation:

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Th ... frontcover

Apologies in advance if it proves to actually be unrelated.

Tangential, but:

Shouldn't this thread be moved to the NT forum?
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