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In the paradigm for εἰμί Bill Mounce says that the second person plural means "you" but that it is a plural "you" equivalent to "thou or ya'll".
Is this the case for ὑμεις and ὑμας as well?
2nd Person Plural Pronouns
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Re: 2nd Person Plural Pronouns
Second person plural is "y'all" in southern parts of the US (or "ye" in King James English).
First person plural is "we"/"us".
First person plural is "we"/"us".
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Just for the record, thou is second person singular subject, thee is the singular object form, thy/thine the possessive. The plural is ye, you, your/yours. Except for dialecticisms modern English has substituted you, your, yours for both the singular and the plural...LearningGreek wrote: ↑October 12th, 2021, 10:18 pm Hello,
In the paradigm for εἰμί Bill Mounce says that the second person plural means "you" but that it is a plural "you" equivalent to "thou or ya'll".
Is this the case for ὑμεις and ὑμας as well?
ὑμεῖς is nominative plural, ὑμᾶς accusative plural.
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Re: 2nd Person Plural Pronouns
"thou" is second person nominative SINGULAR. ("thee" is accusative, "thy" is genitive)LearningGreek wrote: ↑October 12th, 2021, 10:18 pm Hello,
In the paradigm for εἰμί Bill Mounce says that the second person plural means "you" but that it is a plural "you" equivalent to "thou or ya'll".
Is this the case for ὑμεις and ὑμας as well?
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Re: 2nd Person Plural Pronouns
Stephen Carlson wrote: ↑October 12th, 2021, 10:55 pm Second person plural is "y'all" in southern parts of the US (or "ye" in King James English).
First person plural is "we"/"us".
I should probably add what I now recall from school growing up in Australia, "yous".Shirley Rollinson wrote: ↑October 14th, 2021, 7:50 pm"thou" is second person nominative SINGULAR. ("thee" is accusative, "thy" is genitive)LearningGreek wrote: ↑October 12th, 2021, 10:18 pm Hello,
In the paradigm for εἰμί Bill Mounce says that the second person plural means "you" but that it is a plural "you" equivalent to "thou or ya'll".
Is this the case for ὑμεις and ὑμας as well?
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Re: 2nd Person Plural Pronouns
Perhaps getting of topic, in certain parts of Baltimore and suburbs (such as Dundalk) one can frequently here "yous guys..." English just begs for the return of its second personl plural, but nobody officially will give it back.Daniel Semler wrote: ↑October 14th, 2021, 8:59 pm I should probably add what I now recall from school growing up in Australia, "yous".
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Re: 2nd Person Plural Pronouns
You have gotta love language's utter disregard for what any officials think - it will develop and change if it's alive.Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑October 15th, 2021, 10:27 amPerhaps getting of topic, in certain parts of Baltimore and suburbs (such as Dundalk) one can frequently here "yous guys..." English just begs for the return of its second personl plural, but nobody officially will give it back.Daniel Semler wrote: ↑October 14th, 2021, 8:59 pm I should probably add what I now recall from school growing up in Australia, "yous".
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