Best online Septuagint?
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Best online Septuagint?
What online texts or electronic texts of the Septuagint do you like best?
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A PDF file of Rahlfs, not very convenient: http://ba.21.free.fr/septuaginta/cover.html
Of course, the most convenient of all is in a Biblical software passage; I have the LXX in Accordance, but it's there in other packages too. But they're commercial.
Free software: The Sword Project, with programs for Windows and for Mac
(http://www.crosswire.org/sword/software/index.jsp),
has the Rahlfs' morphologically tagged LXX at: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ ... odName=LXX
I think there are probably some others also.
Of course, the most convenient of all is in a Biblical software passage; I have the LXX in Accordance, but it's there in other packages too. But they're commercial.
Free software: The Sword Project, with programs for Windows and for Mac
(http://www.crosswire.org/sword/software/index.jsp),
has the Rahlfs' morphologically tagged LXX at: http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ ... odName=LXX
I think there are probably some others also.
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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Re: Best online Septuagint?
The best text of the LXX is the Göttingen, which is available electronically from Logos (http://www.logos.com/product/4951/gottingen-septuagint) or Accordance (http://www.accordancebible.com/store/de ... G+1+CD-ROM). The Logos version is affordable and complete but not morphologically tagged. The Accordance version is morphologically tagged but more expensive and not complete.
Ken M. Penner
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
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The Logos version does actually have a preliminary morph tagging. I think its currently something like 90-95% accurate and that'll be improving.Ken M. Penner wrote:The best text of the LXX is the Göttingen, which is available electronically from Logos (http://www.logos.com/product/4951/gottingen-septuagint) or Accordance (http://www.accordancebible.com/store/de ... G+1+CD-ROM). The Logos version is affordable and complete but not morphologically tagged. The Accordance version is morphologically tagged but more expensive and not complete.
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I stand corrected! The last update I had was from January, when Logos was coming up with a strategy for morphing the text. The accuracy is probably better than 99% already, if they took the approach we discussed back then.MAubrey wrote:
The Logos version does actually have a preliminary morph tagging. I think its currently something like 90-95% accurate and that'll be improving.
Ken M. Penner
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
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A free favourite is http://www.codexsinaiticus.com (images and transcription).
And for analyzing usages, I like http://en.katabiblon.com/us/index.php?text=LXX (tagged text, concordance, "lexicon").
And for analyzing usages, I like http://en.katabiblon.com/us/index.php?text=LXX (tagged text, concordance, "lexicon").
Ken M. Penner
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
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You know, I think you're right. Rick announced it in the forums, but I couldn't find where, but that sounds right--it was so little that Rick didn't think they needed more than one person working on it. I think Randal Tan is on the job.Ken M. Penner wrote:I stand corrected! The last update I had was from January, when Logos was coming up with a strategy for morphing the text. The accuracy is probably better than 99% already, if they took the approach we discussed back then.
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The best list of Septuagint resources, including links to online texts is the website "The Septuagint Online" by Joel Kalvesmaki which can be found at http://www.kalvesmaki.com/Index.htm.
Make sure to check this site out.
When I view the LXX text on my Android phone, I find that sites which have the text with diacritics do not appear correctly, so you also want to be aware of some sites that give a non-accented version. One is available at the Unbound Bible (Biola University)http://unbound.biola.edu/.
I'll add others to this post as I find the ones which work on my cell phone.
Make sure to check this site out.
When I view the LXX text on my Android phone, I find that sites which have the text with diacritics do not appear correctly, so you also want to be aware of some sites that give a non-accented version. One is available at the Unbound Bible (Biola University)http://unbound.biola.edu/.
I'll add others to this post as I find the ones which work on my cell phone.
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This is not an online text, but my favourite electronic LXX text is the "Logos LXX", AKA "Septuagint with Logos Morphology" which (amazingly) has a reverse-interlinear to the Hebrew text (Andersen-Forbes)!
You can search the Greek and Hebrew morphology at the same time. The command is a little tricky, but it's quite powerful.
Want to know when a Hebrew imperative is translated by a Greek future? Try the following search, with "Bible" (not "Morph") as the search type:
([field bible, content] <af-morph+he ~ V??[iI]?????>) ANDEQUALS ([field bible, content] <lbs-morph+el ~ VF??????>)
It gives nominally 118 hits, most commonly in Isaiah, but there are some duplicates.
Want to know when the Hebrew פלשׁתי "Philistine" is translated by something other than ἀλλόφυλος? Try the following :
([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/פלשׁתי>) NOTEQUALS ([field bible, content] <lemma = lbs/el/ἀλλόφυλος>)
Interesting patterns...
You can search the Greek and Hebrew morphology at the same time. The command is a little tricky, but it's quite powerful.
Want to know when a Hebrew imperative is translated by a Greek future? Try the following search, with "Bible" (not "Morph") as the search type:
([field bible, content] <af-morph+he ~ V??[iI]?????>) ANDEQUALS ([field bible, content] <lbs-morph+el ~ VF??????>)
It gives nominally 118 hits, most commonly in Isaiah, but there are some duplicates.
Want to know when the Hebrew פלשׁתי "Philistine" is translated by something other than ἀλλόφυλος? Try the following :
([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/פלשׁתי>) NOTEQUALS ([field bible, content] <lemma = lbs/el/ἀλλόφυλος>)
Interesting patterns...
Ken M. Penner
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
Editor, Digital Biblical Studies
General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
Co-Editor, Online Critical Pseudepigrapha pseudepigrapha.org
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Re: Best online Septuagint?
You might consider my material at
http://www.motorera.com/greek/greek.html
by clicking on a particular word, you are taken to a lexicon of it.
I am in the process of modifying it so that even hovering over a word will give its meaning. This feature is available for some of the NT already.
Cheers,
John Barach
http://www.motorera.com/greek/greek.html
by clicking on a particular word, you are taken to a lexicon of it.
I am in the process of modifying it so that even hovering over a word will give its meaning. This feature is available for some of the NT already.
Cheers,
John Barach
καὶ ἀνέγνωσαν ἐν βιβλίῳ νόμου τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἐδίδασκεν Εσδρας καὶ διέστελλεν ἐν ἐπιστήμῃ κυρίου καὶ συνῆκεν ὁ λαὸς ἐν τῇ ἀναγνώσει. (Neh. 8:8)
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