1 Timothy 2:11-12 archived threads

[Stephen Carlson]

Occurrences of αὐθεντεῖν in TLG up to and including the second century, in chronological order:

• Euripides, Andromacha 172: ἐς τοῦτο δ’ ἥκεις ἀμαθίας, δύστηνε σύ, ἣ παιδὶ πατρὸς ὃς σὸν ὤλεσεν πόσιν τολμᾶις ξυνεύδειν καὶ τέκν’ αὐθεντῶν πάρα τίκτειν. τοιοῦτον πᾶν τὸ βάρβαρον γένος·
• Euripides, Troiades 660: καὶ τῶνδε κληδὼν ἐς στράτευμ’ Ἀχαιικὸν ἐλθοῦσ’ ἀπώλεσέν μ’· ἐπεὶ γὰρ ἡιρέθην, Ἀχιλλέως με παῖς ἐβουλήθη λαβεῖν δάμαρτα· δουλεύσω δ’ ἐν αὐθεντῶν δόμοις.
• Euripides, Rhesus 873: καὶ πῶς με κηδεύσουσιν αὐθεντῶν χέρες;
• Aristonicus, De signis Iliados 9.694: ὅτι ἐξ ἄλλων τόπων ἐστὶν ὁ στίχος· νῦν γὰρ οὐχ ἁρμόζει· τότε γὰρ εἴωθεν ἐπιφωνεῖσθαι, ὅταν ὁ αὐθεντῶν τοῦ λόγου καταπληκτικά τινα προενέγκηται.
• 1 Tim 2.12: διδάσκειν δὲ γυναικὶ οὐκ ἐπιτρέπω, οὐδὲ αὐθεντεῖν ἀνδρός, ἀλλ’ εἶναι ἐν ἡσυχίᾳ.
• Claudius Ptolomaeus, Apotelesmatica 3.14.10 ὁ μὲν οὖν τοῦ Κρόνου ἀστὴρ μόνος τὴν οἰκοδεσποτείαν τῆς ψυχῆς λαβὼν καὶ αὐθεντήσας τοῦ τε Ἑρμοῦ καὶ τοῦ τῆς σελήνης, ἐὰν μὲν ἐνδόξως ἔχῃ πρός τε τὸ κοσμικὸν καὶ τὰ κέντρα, ποιεῖ φιλοσωμάτους, ἰσχυρογνώμονας, βαθύφρονας, αὐστηρούς, μονογνώμονας, ἐπιμόχθους, ἐπιτακτικούς, κολαστικούς, περιουσιαστικούς, φιλοχρημάτους, βιαίους, θησαυριστικούς, φθονερούς, ἐναντίως δὲ καὶ ἀδόξως κείμενος ῥυπαρούς, μικρολόγους, μικροψύχους, ἀδιαφόρους, κακογνώμονας, βασκάνους, δειλούς, ἀνακεχωρηκότας, κακολόγους, φιλερήμους, φιλοθρήνους, ἀναιδεῖς, δεισιδαίμονας, φιλομόχθους, ἀστόργους, ἐπιβουλευτικοὺς τῶν οἰκείων, ἀνευφράντους, μισοσωμάτους·

As one can see, pretty slim pickings.

[Andrew Chapman]

Are not the three from Euripides all genitive plurals of αὐθέντης?

There is also BGU 1208, dated 27 to 26 BC, from http://papyri.info/ddbdp/bgu;4;1208 (where you can see the whole fragment):

κἀμοῦ(*) αὐθεντηκότος πρὸς αὐτὸν περιποιῆσαι Καλατύτει τῶι ναυτικῶι ἐπὶ τῷ αὐτῶι φόρωι ἐν τῆι ὥραι ἐπεχώρησεν.

And then there is Philodemus, Rhetorica 133.14, dated 1st Century BC according to Albert Wolters, which I only have to hand as it appears in Baldwin's essay:

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In note e, Bladwin explains that he has changed ωοῦ to ἐμοῦ in line 45 of BGU 1208.

The English of Philodemus's Rhetorica, by Hubbell, is as I remember on his own account, more of a paraphrase than a translation. The English of BGU 1208 and of Aristonicus are both Baldwin's translation.

Andrew

[Stephen Carlson]

Are not the three from Euripides all genitive plurals of αὐθέντης?

Could be. I didn't bother to check and it's the kind of thing that could cause the lemmatizer to go astray.