RE: [compost_tea] Re: Fwd: Update from Alliance for Natural Health

From: Robert Norsen <bnbrew_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:42:03 -0800 (PST)

Tom could it be Tom that is mis-informed? I have looked into the group that is trying to keep food supplement freely available on the open market. Tom, you perhaps subscribe to a group who are lead by the opposition. The opposition will use every smear and tie the effort to anyone in the group they can find who may have expressed radical. The group trying to reduce food supplements to useless, is totally interested in the multi billion $ pharma industry who has every $ reason to stop the expansion of natural medical treatments. Natural is growing faster, more effetive and much safer than ( FDA/ Pharma) sponsored drugs. like vioxx and satins. Both highly advertized and both proving highly hazardous
 
The ANH legal group supporting supplemants is being sponsored by people like Dr Johnathan V Wright here in the P N W, by the entire staff at Living Extension Foundation, A GROUP OF OVER 53 MEDICAL AND SCIENTIFIC DOCTORS and by Dr Robert J Rowen, and many other Doctors who have seen the ugency of keeping alternative, usually natural food supplements available for their and patients use.
 
I know Tom, you have been insistant every time I suggest this urgent need that all of the opinions of hundreds of people from many countries including US, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, England, Canada working in this field are controlled by some completely misdirected efforts of one or two self appoiinted and self directed "leaders". Such as Tim McVey . Of all the crap you attached below to deride the subject I submitted to the list NONE of it has anything to do with either the subject nor the many doctors and scientists who are also supporting the ANH lawsuite that is attempting to avoid an international cartel setting up a monopoly of nothing but pharmaceutical drugs. Expensive and often deadly.
 
Look inward Tom, are you another self appointed expert and leader, less deranged than Tim McVey.? Read the irrelevant crap you quoted to suppress the ANH and me. To suppress really heroic doctors like Dr Wright and hundreds of like doctors who have been able to solve medical problems without the damage or cost of Parma drugs. Doctors who without the massive money machines the pharma has built are finding cures for problems the pharma has failed to solve. Cures that cure, cost less, that have few side effects, are safe and affordable.
 
Sure John Hammill has said and keeps saying stuff that hurts his cause. He is one vocal person who has done all he can to awaken the public to this problem. Some of his outbursts that you quote are not helping the cause. But on the other hand some of them are based on policy that is as bad as his choice of words. John is not alone in that opinion. He just says it with the wrong words.
Tom Jaszewski <tom_at_livesoil.com> wrote: - and wrote and wrote


 

 

 


· [Tom Jaszewski] Thanks Bob, but again you fail to point out this organizations ties to extremist militaristic political organizations, among their many far out views is that Tim McVey was a hero.

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Folks please read a little deeper before you buy in and give these folks any money, unless of course you believe the CIA is implanting listening devices in your head!


[Tom Jaszewski]

To: "Health Freedom, Codex Issues
Subject: Pentagon Asks for Homeland Command Americans Sleep Through Tyranny Posse Commatatus Blown Sky High: Military Troops to Serve as "Law Enforcement" as "Homeland CINC" is Created
From: "I A H F" jham_at_iahf.com Nothing to do with the subject



IAHF List: The Illuminati is gearing up for a military assault on America. Read this, and reflect on it. After the civil war, due to gross abuses committed against civilians during the Union Armies occupation of the south in the name of alleged "law enforcement" the Posse Commatatus Act was signed into law to stop the use of military troops for law enforcement purposes. Now the law is being ignored, and we are being targetted for military occupation in the name of "defending us from terrorists." If you're not armed, get armed. History shows that whenever people have been disarmed, genocide has always followed. The National ID Card legislation that Congressman JC Watts is trying to lay on us would not "protect" us from anything, it would be used to track us like dogs. The IMF considers us to be their property. Their attitude is that our birth certificates have been monetized as collateral against the debt. Now they feel they need to sick the marines on any of us who unruly sla
 ves who
 "get out of line." Please call your congressman today via 202-225-3121 in opposition to the National ID card legislation that JC Watts is attempting to get shoved down our throats, and ask your state legislators to oppose biometric identifiers on drivers licenses. See recent IAHF emails for specifics on both.

http://www.ccops.org/alert20020129.html Nothing to do with the subject

Pentagon Asks for Homeland Command
Americans Sleep Through Tyranny SAME

In September, when President Bush announced creation of the warm, fuzzy-sounding Office of Homeland Defense, the CCOPS Totalitarian Time Clock took its biggest leap eve SAME

http://www.ccops.org/alert20010921.html

We warned that this was not a spontaneous response to the September 11 attacks, but was the foundation of an existing, but little publicized, bipartisan plan to turn the U.S. into a virtual police state. You can read that plan in full, newly dressed up in patriotic graphics, at its own U.S. government Web site:

http://www.nssg.gov/phaseIII.pdf

One of the wish-list items on this federal "Roadmap for National Security" was to turn the U.S. military into a domestic police force. Well, just four months later and here it is, folks. The Pentagon is asking the White House for authority to set up a Homeland CINC (Commander-in-Chief), giving a single four-star general authority over U.S. domestic operations. same

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42765-2002Jan26.html

This new command would reorganize some of the legitimate military authority the Pentagon already has, like patrolling U.S. skies and waters against attack. But it bids to make the military a permanent fixture in U.S. domestic law enforcement.

Since 1878, the Posse Comitatus Act has prohibited the military from searching, seizing, and arresting anyone within the United States. Exceptions have been made for suppression of insurrections and "domestic disturbances." In the late 1990s, the Pentagon was also given authority over nuclear, biological, or chemical threats within U.S. borders.

What will happen when there's a permanent, full-time command dedicated solely to domestic uses -- and with nothing else on its mind? Have you ever heard the term "mission creep"? Expect the "emergency" presence of soldiers in U.S. airports to become permanent. Expect military roadblocks in border states. And above all, expect the already vague definition of "domestic disturbance" to broaden ... and broaden ... and broaden.

"Domestic disturbance" could be something as simple as a gun-rights rally, a gun show, a tax-day protest, or a public forum on fully informed juries. It could be a town meeting where citizens get "too angry" at their representatives. It could be an illegal fireworks display on the Fourth of July. Or a property-rights defense like the ones that have taken place all across the West in the last several years.

And remember: Gen. Colin Powell has long favored "gun-control." How would you like to have the military assisting with an "emergency" firearm-registration scheme -- or worse, helping track down and round up resisters of registration or confiscation schemes?

Government agents will reassure you, "Oh, no, that's not what 'domestic disturbance' means. Anyone who tells you things like that is hysterical." Well, if "domestic disturbance" has a specific, limited meaning, why not write the limit into law? Why not make it as clear as the difference between a red light and a green light? Vague, open-ended language in the hands of people seeking power is *dangerous* -- and most dangerous of all when backed by raw military force and an attitude in which every opponent is an enemy to be destroyed.

People, this is tyranny, pure and simple. And it's arriving, as tyranny nearly always does, packaged in the pretty pink ribbons of "safety" and "security." It's to protect the American "homeland" (a feel-good propaganda word -- like the German "fatherland" and Russian "motherland" -- that never needed to be used when America was truly the land of the free).

NO, IT ISN'T "FOR OUR OWN PROTECTION." Soldiers, permanently on law-enforcement duty in the U.S., seeing each and every one of us as a potential enemy, is NOT good.

Wake up, America! Realize what's going on, then please do two things:

Educate your friends, family, children, neighbors, and co-workers. (It might help to have them read the anti-propaganda article "How to Recognize a Skunk"

http://www.jpfo.org/alert20020126.htm

from CCOPS sister organization, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.)

Call your worthless congressperson and deliver a fierce reminder that there are plenty of other worthless politicians out there, waiting to take that one's place if this kind of thing isn't stopped, and stopped pronto.

Don't sleep your way to tyranny. Don't help those around you delude themselves any longer. Not unless you want tanks full of soldiers crashing their way into the local diner for doughnuts. TOM NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT. DO YOU THINK THE LIST WANTS TO BE DRAGGED THRU THIS ?

 

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This book tells it all: What key characteristics define a police state and how the U.S. is rapidly developing nearly every one of them. If you still care about saving your country, buy it, read it, and share it with your friends.

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