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Re: Permaculture Credit Union
- To: Vint Lawrence <vlawrence@nets.com>, permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Permaculture Credit Union
- From: John Irwin <jwirwin@permaculture.net>
- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:53:11 -0400
- Newsgroups: permaculture
- Organization: American Permaculture Directory
- References: <LYR75906-72968-2000.08.16-13.25.24--dtv#mwt.net@franklin.oit.unc.edu> <LYR75826-72983-2000.08.16-14.55.42--vlawrence#nets.com@franklin.oit.unc.edu> <LYR101670-74855-2000.08.27-21.12.56--jwirwin#permaculture.net@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Reply-to: jwirwin@permaculture.net
Hi Vint,
We have met once back in 97 when I attended a Pc Credit Union meeting. I
intend to
invest in the
Credit Union today.
Thanks for answering miekal's questions. He got right to the core of
the matter.
I do have one big question:
When the board of the Credit Union is elected, will all board members be
expected to go
to regular meetings?
How often? Where? Will it be possible to people from anywhere to become board
members & participate without
going to Santa Fe (or the SW) 4 times a year? .... Both the expense & time would
eliminate many people from beyond the SW USA. Perhaps the cyberworld will
provice the
answer..........
Also, a suggestion: How about endorsing NATURAL CAPITALISM, by Paul
Hawken &
Hunter & Amory Lovins, which alludes to the financial aspects of a sustainable
culture. New investors could receive that instead of a free toaster ;-)
And an offer. As long as supplies last, if the Pc CU will send me a monthly address
list of those who request one, I will send a complimentary 1998 American Permaculture
Directory to anyone who invests $500 within the year 2000.
John Irwin
American Permaculture Directory
jwirwin@permaculture.net
http://www.permaculture.net
Vint Lawrence wrote:
> mIEKAL aND wrote:
>
> What about this makes it a "permaculture" credit union? its not
> really clear at yr website. will you make loans to permaculture projects?
>
> miekal
>
> miekal,
> In answer to your question "What makes this a "permaculture" credit union?"
>
> 1. Ultimately, this will be determined by the members. The "field of
> membership" is primarily for graduates of permaculture courses. It is
> "our" credit union, and, as such, it is ultimately a democratically
> controlled financial institution whose policies and practices will be
> controlled by its members - i.e.- the permaculture community. As we grow
> and develop, the members, on a "one-share-one-vote" basis will elect the
> board of the credit union which then makes most policy decisions.
> Non-board members are welcome to participate on the credit/loan
> committee as well as other committees that oversee the operations of the CU.
>
> 2. The PCU has been started by a group of local permaculturists in Santa
> Fe under the sponsorship of the Permaculture
> Institute USA and we have endeavored to create, where possible, a
> financial institution that is based on and reflects the
> ethics and principles of permaculture. It is one of the "invisible
> structures" that Bill Mollison discusses at some length in the
> Designer's Manual Chapter 14 - "Strategies for an Alternative Nation".
> We are somewhat curtailled in our first several years
> of operation by the state and Federal regulators (whose primary purpose
> is to insure that we manage the CU according to
> sound financial practices and principles). We are doing this so that
> these same organizations will provide "deposit insurance"
> of each individual member up to $100,000 per account (like FDIC deposit
> insurance, only for credit unions). We felt this
> was a worthwhile compromise to safeguard the assets of our PC sisters and brothers.
>
> 3. Eventually we will be making loans to permaculture projects, solar
> and alternative technology initiatives, small businesses,
> PC improvement loans, homestead loans, etc. In order to do this, we need
> members and their deposits first. Hopefully, our
> first loans will go to energy efficient vehicles and as "signature
> loans" to PCU members for their own projects (these are
> funds that are borrowed against funds in a share account which the
> member pledges as collateral.
> Everyone is welcome to help in this effort by enrolling others in the
> PCU. The quickest way to get in the loop is to go to
> www.pcuonline.org or call the PCU office at 505-954-3479.
>
> 4. The PCU will also benefit the Permaculture community at-large through
> the various services and benefits that can be
> offered through the PCU. These include group health insurance, life
> insurance, automobile insurance, etc. Several years ago,
> Bill challenged us in several different venues by saying " You are an
> elephant acting like you are a mouse!"
> The number of people who are PC graduates, who are practicing
> permaculture, and/or who believe in the ethics upon which
> permaculture is based is truly astounding. Yet sadly, until now, we have
> had no common voice in putting our financial
> resources firmly in line with these principles and leveraging our size
> to generate benefits for the PC community. It is our
> sincere desire to remedy this situation via the PCU.
>
> Finally, we don't have all the answers as to how this will be
> accomplished. It is a work in progress and (as noted above)
> highly regulated at the moment. Our goal is to have 100% of the monies
> deposited in the PCU loaned out to or invested in
> projects and enterprises that absolutely reflect the ethis of
> permaculture. We have a long way to go before this is a true
> statement. It is up to the members of the PCU to make this happen by
> their involvement, deposits, loan applications,
> volunteer participation and general support and goodwill.
>
> I hope this answers your questions a bit more thoroughly. The website
> has a page on Frequently Asked Questions which
> may cover some of the more mundane aspects of Credit Union operations.
>
> Thanks again for your interest,
>
> Vint Lawrence
> -Apache Creek Ranch Permaculture
> -Founding Board Member of the Permaculture Credit Union
>
>