Erasmian Pronunciation Variants

[Stephen Carlson]

"General American lacks the “short o” sound of British “top.” If you rhyme “father” and “bother,” you don’t have the British short o." Stephen do you have any way of demonstrating what a short o really sounds like?

Well, I have a strong American accent myself, but others can do it. Here’s one video on YouTube about the difference: https://youtu.be/XfJXUdMvX8o

If there’s a way to embed, perhaps Jonathan can tell me how.

[S Walch]

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[youtube]XfJXUdMvX8o[/youtube]

Take the last bit after the final / - XfJXUdMvX8o - and pop between the YT tags

As a Brit myself (northern one, so I have the twang of saying bah-th and grah-ss, rather than bar-th, and grar-ss), not sure if the following may help:

Would pronounce "top" as toh-p; "bother" would be boh-thur. American for both would probably be more taw-p and baw-thur.

[Stephen Carlson]

Thanks for the tip, but it's not working for me: just a blank area reserved for a video that isn't there.

[Shirley Rollinson]

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[youtube]XfJXUdMvX8o[/youtube]

Take the last bit after the final / - XfJXUdMvX8o - and pop between the YT tags

As a Brit myself (northern one, so I have the twang of saying bah-th and grah-ss, rather than bar-th, and grar-ss), not sure if the following may help:

Would pronounce "top" as toh-p; "bother" would be boh-thur. American for both would probably be more taw-p and baw-thur.

As a Brit who can do a Yorks/Lancs or an Oxbridge academic one "Ee, we 'ad a laff on't path in't grass last neet" (wi' glo'l stops an' all) or "Oh we had a larff on the parth in the grahrs larst naite" Pronunciation is really a minor matter for the GNT - the main thing is to read it and let it speak to us.

[S Walch]

Thanks for the tip, but it's not working for me: just a blank area reserved for a video that isn't there.

My browser is reporting an error about the video being requested from an "insecure source" as it's not HTTPS. Probably the same thing is occurring in yours.

Edit:
Just found out if I change the https:// at the beginning of the B-Greek address to http://, the video loads.

[Jason Hare]

Thanks for the tip, but it's not working for me: just a blank area reserved for a video that isn't there.

My browser is reporting an error about the video being requested from an "insecure source" as it's not HTTPS. Probably the same thing is occurring in yours.

Edit:
Just found out if I change the https:// at the beginning of the B-Greek address to http://, the video loads.

It should be working now.

[Christopher M. Tully]

Steven, her pronunciation of "clock" sounds very similar to "cluck" and her "rock" sounds like "ruck".

I don't see much of a difference. Here's a few entries from Vasile's Cambridge dictionary which might serve as reference:

• Tumble

• Tomcat

• Tupperware

• Tommy gun

[Stephen Carlson]

Steven, her pronunciation of "clock" sounds very similar to "cluck" and her "rock" sounds like "ruck".

They don’t to me but then again I’m used to hearing the sound (which I stress again does not exist in American English).

[Shirley Rollinson]

Steven, her pronunciation of "clock" sounds very similar to "cluck" and her "rock" sounds like "ruck".

They don’t to me but then again I’m used to hearing the sound (which I stress again does not exist in American English).

Shes speaking with a southern middle-class English accent - and not a very clear pronunciation either.

[Christopher M. Tully]

You all bring up issues worth discussing, but I would like to treat one thing at a time.

"how about checking the other alternative I indicated, i.e. the Greek voice pronouncing ορθόδοξος and ορχήστρα?"

Vasile, I've got my headphones now. And have you changed your website from English to Romanian? At any rate, on your website the word ορθόδοξος I hear the first omicron pronounced like an omega (orange) and the following three like short u's (son). The one omicron in ορχήστρα I hear as omega (orange).