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ἐγὼ τά τ᾽ οἰκτρὰ συνετός εἰμι καὶ τὰ μή,
φιλῶ τ᾽ ἐμαυτοῦ τέκνα: μαινοίμην γὰρ ἄν.
δεινῶς δ᾽ ἔχει μοι ταῦτα τολμῆσαι, γύναι,
δεινῶς δὲ καὶ μή: τοῦτο γὰρ πρᾶξαί με δεῖ.
Explain the syntax of the highlighted lines. Vocabulary should be familiar to readers of the New Testament.
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The sense here is it is dreadful for me… because:
[Smyth 1438]An adverb with ἔχειν is often used as a periphrasis for an adjective with εἶναι.
Columbus probably said something of similar meaning in Genoese Italian.
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Thank you Robert,
Apparently I was treading the wrong path.
δεινῶς δ᾽ ἔχει μοι ταῦτα τολμῆσαι, γύναι,
δεινῶς δὲ καὶ μή: τοῦτο γὰρ πρᾶξαί με δεῖ.
I looked at ἔχει μοι + τολμῆσαι and με δεῖ + πρᾶξαί and was trying to make it into an inverted parallel construction.
Apparently I was treading the wrong path.
δεινῶς δ᾽ ἔχει μοι ταῦτα τολμῆσαι, γύναι,
δεινῶς δὲ καὶ μή: τοῦτο γὰρ πρᾶξαί με δεῖ.
I looked at ἔχει μοι + τολμῆσαι and με δεῖ + πρᾶξαί and was trying to make it into an inverted parallel construction.
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Re: Columbus Day project E.IA 1257-1258
δεινῶς δ' ἔχει μοι ταῦτα τολμῆσαι, γύναι,
δεινῶς δὲ καὶ μή· ταὐτὰ γὰρ πρᾶξαί με δεῖ.
δ' ... δὲ ... γὰρ mark the clause boundaries. Guy Cooper[1] notes the second δὲ introduces reduced (minimal) anaphora. In the third clause ταὐτὰ ... πρᾶξαί corresponds to ταῦτα τολμῆσαι. That leaves us with δεινῶς ... ἔχει μοι & με δεῖ. Both function as adverbials with an infinitive. The case of the pronouns μοι & με suggests they don't occupy the same functional slot. μοι is a member of the adverbial constituent δεινῶς .... ἔχει μοι. με is the subject to the infinitive πρᾶξαί.
[1] Greek syntax, v4, 2:69.17.C P2923.
δεινῶς δὲ καὶ μή· ταὐτὰ γὰρ πρᾶξαί με δεῖ.
δ' ... δὲ ... γὰρ mark the clause boundaries. Guy Cooper[1] notes the second δὲ introduces reduced (minimal) anaphora. In the third clause ταὐτὰ ... πρᾶξαί corresponds to ταῦτα τολμῆσαι. That leaves us with δεινῶς ... ἔχει μοι & με δεῖ. Both function as adverbials with an infinitive. The case of the pronouns μοι & με suggests they don't occupy the same functional slot. μοι is a member of the adverbial constituent δεινῶς .... ἔχει μοι. με is the subject to the infinitive πρᾶξαί.
[1] Greek syntax, v4, 2:69.17.C P2923.
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Re: Columbus Day project E.IA 1257-1258
δ‘ ... δέ for μέν ... δέ
[Denniston p163]In Anaphora, when δέ is in the second limb, μέν is usually in the first. But there are numerous exceptions to this in serious poetry. ... IA 17, 559, 1258.
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