From the Sayings of the Desert Fathers comes an odd rephrasing of Matthew 11:12
Βιαστή γάρ ἐστιν ἡ βασιλεία τῶν οὐρἀνων, καὶ βιασταὶ ἁρπάζουσιν αὐτήν.
The kingdom of the heavens is violent/forceful??? Doesn't make sense to me.
I found a papyrus with Βιαστή as well:
[16]καθὼ καὶ ουʼ[κ] ἐξέσται1669 ἡμῖ̣ν̣ ὁποτ[έρῳ τὰ ἐν]
[17]ταῖς ἐγγεγραμμέναις1670 συνθήκα̣ι̣[ς παραβῆναι]
[18]βιαστή· ἂν δὲ̣ ὁπότερος τ̣ὸ̣[ν] ἕτερον̣ [ἀδικῇ πε-]
[19]ρὶ τούτου ἐκτείσει1671 ὁ παραβὰς τ̣ῷ ἐμμέ̣[νοντι ὑπὲρ]
P.Col.: Columbia Papyri, Duke Data Bank of Documentary Papyri (Perseus Digital Library, n.d.).
It seems to be written as a protest against some kind of transgression of a written contract but I'm not quite understanding what Βιαστή means here either. Does anyone have some light to shed?
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Re: Βιαστή
Βιαστή γάρ ἐστιν ἡ βασιλεία τῶν οὐρἀνων, καὶ βιασταὶ ἁρπάζουσιν αὐτήν.Philip Arend wrote: ↑December 30th, 2018, 10:22 amFrom the Sayings of the Desert Fathers comes an odd rephrasing of Matthew 11:12
The kingdom of the heavens is "subject to violence" (Lampe) ...
See Flannery O'Connor.
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C. Stirling Bartholomew
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Thanks for writing Stirling. I could not find this exact form in the Lampe that I consulted, but Stephanos did have it in the following entry:
Theophilus Protosp. 3, 11, p. 843 Η μὲν γάρ ἐστιν αβιἀστος (αναπνοὴ), ή δὲ βιαστή.
For on the one hand she/it is effortless? Powerless?, on the other forceful (or something like that)
Any idea what form this is here?
Theophilus Protosp. 3, 11, p. 843 Η μὲν γάρ ἐστιν αβιἀστος (αναπνοὴ), ή δὲ βιαστή.
For on the one hand she/it is effortless? Powerless?, on the other forceful (or something like that)
Any idea what form this is here?
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Re: Βιαστή
βιαστή is feminine nominative singular. The lexical form would βιαστός. The morpheme -τος usually indicates a passive idea, "acted upon with force" or something like that, precise English gloss to be decided by context.Philip Arend wrote: ↑January 1st, 2019, 10:36 amThanks for writing Stirling. I could not find this exact form in the Lampe that I consulted, but Stephanos did have it in the following entry:
Theophilus Protosp. 3, 11, p. 843 Η μὲν γάρ ἐστιν αβιἀστος (αναπνοὴ), ή δὲ βιαστή.
For on the one hand she/it is effortless? Powerless?, on the other forceful (or something like that)
Any idea what form this is here?
This is different from βιαστής, -της being the agentive ending.
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Re: Βιαστή
Philip,Philip Arend wrote: ↑January 1st, 2019, 10:36 amThanks for writing Stirling. I could not find this exact form in the Lampe ...
I was working on Scholia in Apocalypsin P. Tzamalikos when you posted your question. I just pasted βιαστή into the TLG-Abridged search window and clicked on Lampe. No fuss and bother with the hard copy.
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Thanks for these helpful replies. I look up -τος This helped to explain very much. So I'm guessing the word can be middle or passive just as verb βιἀζεται.
That really opened my eye to this form. btw I googled the form and wiktionary page below came up. I hope it is accurate. Seems to be and it references Smythe, though the Perseus link did not go to right section.
Stirling thanks also for the TLG pointer. I went there and found that the Lampe reference came back with the English gloss. I could not see a way to directly access the Lampe entries themselves. Still, was nice to know about this possibility in TLG.
Suffix
-• (-tos) m, f (neuter -τον); second declension
Creates verbal adjectives of possibility, either active or passive (accented on the ultima, -τός) quotations ▲
δύναμαι > δυνατός
can > able (active), doable (passive)
διαλῡ́ω > διαλυτός
dissolve > dissoluble
Creates perfective passive verbal adjectives (usually accented recessively) quotations ▲
διαλῡ́ω > διάλυτος
dissolve > dissolved
Forms adjectives from nouns (accented recessively) quotations ▲
δάκρυ > ἀ-δάκρυτος
tear > tearless
That really opened my eye to this form. btw I googled the form and wiktionary page below came up. I hope it is accurate. Seems to be and it references Smythe, though the Perseus link did not go to right section.
Stirling thanks also for the TLG pointer. I went there and found that the Lampe reference came back with the English gloss. I could not see a way to directly access the Lampe entries themselves. Still, was nice to know about this possibility in TLG.
Suffix
-• (-tos) m, f (neuter -τον); second declension
Creates verbal adjectives of possibility, either active or passive (accented on the ultima, -τός) quotations ▲
δύναμαι > δυνατός
can > able (active), doable (passive)
διαλῡ́ω > διαλυτός
dissolve > dissoluble
Creates perfective passive verbal adjectives (usually accented recessively) quotations ▲
διαλῡ́ω > διάλυτος
dissolve > dissolved
Forms adjectives from nouns (accented recessively) quotations ▲
δάκρυ > ἀ-δάκρυτος
tear > tearless
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